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v0.10.17.x Testing

Discussion in 'Testing' started by eduffield, Nov 27, 2014.

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  1. TanteStefana

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    didn't that happen because there were no funds? You can disable darksend in the Settings > Options and uncheck start darksend on login. Did it crash after the notice screen was closed? Or did darksend mixing stop?

    Another question. If 1 dark becomes worth 20, 40, 100 etc... equivalent dollars one day, will it be trivial to change DarkSend to mix below .01 or so?
     
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    Well, considering it used to be round fees of -.0125 and now is -0.1 at random, if it worked before for deterring, it should work now. A person spamming doesn't really know when they will be hit with charges. Evan can feel free to correct me on this.

    As for the spending of funds, yes, at the moment you can uncheck the darksend box and send out anon funds with unanon funds.
     
  3. TanteStefana

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    I thought before, we were hit with collateral fees when we acted badly (like pulling out before mixing completed) so therefore we would deter people from spamming the system with rounds that are never completed (thus aborted) in order to cause mischief? If not, please explain the purpose, 'cause I'm confused. Thanks a ton!

    If you can send anon funds out with non-anonymatized (is that a word?) funds, doesn't that expose your account number, and thus expose others? Or have you all thought this through better than I and concluded otherwise? Thanks for updating me!
     
  4. yidakee

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    Tante, thats the thing. I had no funds and tried to disable DS, and that msg popped up. I dont find any options to disable DS, I could flag in the config, but in any case, that pop-up msg is incongruent with the action intended. Status remains "Enabled". Did not crash. Its just a little bug.

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  5. TanteStefana

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    Its under Settings > Options and is a check mark box. If the program didn't freeze, then it was just an annoying reminder because your wallet was set to denominate. However, if you couldn't get the wallet to stop, then yah, it's a problem :)
     
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    IIRC, there should still be collateral fees involved for those with shoddy internet connections, bad actors, and people that stop DS mid-round.

    After anon'ing funds, you shouldn't be able to join with them non-anon funds. It should not even be an option. If you have the non-anon funds sitting there to be combined with your already anon balance, then those non-anon should go through the DS process to be added to the anon balance before sending. You should be locked out from being able to combined the two. I don't think this is currently the case though.
     
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    Shouldn't you be preparing a speech for tomorrow's Cryptomoneyexpo? :D
     
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    Evan! Please look at this.

    Brand new wallet. Went to the faucet and got 4k. They arrived and I could swear they went straight to confirmed balance, but in any case a block was found (1 confirm) and it is in fact in confirmed balance. To test I sent out 100 back to the faucet and it was indeed spent.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    edit: FYI

     
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    Does any of your wallets already started denominating?

    Mine cycles through a kinda Groundhog-Day loop:

    Code:
    Submiting Darksend for 100.000000 DRK
    DoAutomaticDenominating -- attempt 2 connection to masternode 108.61.202.75:19999
    trying connection 108.61.202.75:19999 lastseen=15251.3days
    connected 108.61.202.75:19999
    ...
    DoAutomaticDenominating --- connected, sending dsa for 30 - denom 30
    socket closed
    disconnecting node 108.61.202.75:19999
    AcceptToMemoryPool (tx): 188.226.161.128:19999 /Satoshi:0.10.17.18/ : accepted 6d33d4c949f2ad99c655da5b0b55187a1ed7bbcf992be4896665abb6a102bf76 (poolsz 4)
    dsq - message doesn't match current masternode - 108.61.202.75:19999 != 188.226.161.128:19999
    
    Rinse and repeat....

    Sometimes there's the odd "dssu - message doesn't match current darksend session 518762 0" here or there, that's it.

    No denomination so far...
     
  10. TanteStefana

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    My wallet did 3 rounds in under 50 minutes (I don't know exactly when it finished) I'm about to try some transactions...
     
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    I sent my coins back to the faucet and generated a new wallet along with deleting the peers.dat. I so far have received one PTY (breaking into powers of 2s) and one darksend denominate.
     
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    Got that one as well.

    That's a bit missing over here....
     
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    Ok, I chose a denomination of 47.8 and tried to send 45 of it to another address. It failed saying unable to locate enough denominated funds (are we doing the change thing? Or was that abandoned for now?)

    So I sent it letting the wallet decide which to use, and it's charging me 0.0990001 to do it, kinda hefty, no? Total charge ended up being 0.1000001

    So, can you figure out my original address? TX 29bb7c91c6017aec8f86b765e4760ebda7fbb0a2b08f05d396a1812cf53d94a8
     
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    Finally started mixing....needed only on hour or so :rolleyes:
     
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    Is it
    mspyEVzLp4XbfngHYVa1DN92boUK1Zbhsh ?

    or:
    mp9HFLtvc19aE3LoU1wEDnZtZTKTE4Li1e ?
     
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    Yeah it's been telling me 'not enough DS funds' a lot, when I clearly have plenty. :mad:
     
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    That happened to me 2 versions ago. I updated the QT but the wallet was from a previous version. Try a brand new wallet.
     
  18. moli

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    When it says that, it wants you to figure out the fee, from my experience.
     
  19. AjM

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    v.17.18
    Fresh wallet, got 1K tDRK from faucet.
    Started anon mixing with 500 tDRK / 2 rounds, about 2 hours and its done,
    worked fine, zero collateral fees or anything similar, but completion bar tip
    shows 1.93 / 2 rounds and 100%.
    Win 7 x64.
     
  20. eduffield

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    No, check this out. I'll try to find where the source of that transaction came from. This is why Darksend is so powerful, this anon-transaction literally comes from all of these transactions below. There is no 1-to-1 relationship with the original money after the sessions happen. In crypto-note/zero knowledege the 1-to-1 relationship is still in the blockchain, it's just hidden with math (that could be broken later). With Darksend, you literally wipe out the relationship all-together (The ONLY way to prove who sent what is with the owners wallet):

    Anon Transaction:
    http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/77d2c0b36ae91b6540342b3f8d84045534d03da9278b09bb04f9470f33a1c68b
    (source must be e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c)

    I used 8 rounds:

    Round 8:
    http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c
    -Possibly funding sources:
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ac303491f97efb90c718d103031fb4677c8ba6035#o29
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o11
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...881bff931e8094690ce214322e60288492d99b855#o40

    All 3 of those sources are where the money actually comes from. So to find it's source, you need to follow all three and find their sources:

    Round 7:
    Possible Funding Sources:
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o11
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o45
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...239a2cb86443a5cdaae6c6558f748b9eb4c5679a51#o8
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...83229e7cc88179ca30c2cdb252ee3b473fc21add9#o64
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o18
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o30
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...25f97f24c0de5922b522b17ea4903ba76a5b692a83#o5
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o11
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o48
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o6

    Each time you see powers of two, you've found source money:

    Round 6:
    Possible Funding Sources:
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5d65a4b50f1b917c541729b8165b31a5b819c2d680#o0
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...4aa23d45d1dedea62be2c6f27b6500d496e75044af#o1
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o10
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o27
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o4
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...e785a838ad0edf59947ac27aa7a7556dbb66c5a1bb#o0
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o65
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o34
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o11
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o19
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o16
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o19
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o58
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ab4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o2
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...0b44e5104cd75f39d1811425d666d8603900424b5#o80
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o48
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...f9ac17298fb236ed0ec308ea28477ecc0b8253842#o43
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o34
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...32a69ca97a22838052c4c7070656bb66b6d120c7b#o36
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o56
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...51da81f7ed7ae53a43e59b284287407c3750f0a1b9#o1
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5afb07a34e1c5b4779e75e53d1563b8c8096ad4325#o0
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...c8828677c86a904ac00e5d287a825071fd65b5de37#o0
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5b0b55187a1ed7bbcf992be4896665abb6a102bf76#o1
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...bb1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o9
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...dd9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o6
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o37
    - http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...77cea4bb455ec8d938d392f997b37b0be1feee43b#o47

    It gets exponentially larger as you go backwards, I would keep going but that already took 30 minutes to do 3 rounds.

    Source Transaction:

    http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/a713df7be298ec59470b5ae2ff0e56c57a7d21c7ff6e1e821a3258153fd41663
     
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    Is there any reason why 8 rounds isn't the min or on by default? Secondly, with the tx fee for tx's that are too large, what happens when it breaks up denominations to pay what usually is a small .01x-.02x amount when the lowest denomination is .10? Is anonymity lost in the process?
     
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    My wallet is also saying it's 94% complete but looking at coin control, there are literally coins still in round 1 with most being round 5 or less. Fresh wallet, no previous denominations.

    Full coin control:

    [​IMG]

    Two 1k blocks from the faucet, 8 rounds, 1350 target.

    Assuming it stops at 100%, there is a very real possibility that the majority are only 5 round inputs or less.

    EDIT: Also, last darksend denomination is stuck at 0 confirms for 36 minutes. I know I can zapwallettxes but why are they getting stuck to begin with.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks, Evan, will read this more later, I'm busy with work atm.
     
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    i have a very difficult time getting connected with my windows wallets, anyone else experiencing this ? Can someone provide me with
    some addnodes ? ( i deleted the peer.dat already several times .. all my wallets just seems to have problems getting to even 1 connection)

    edit : my wallets seem to stop syncing after 74426, i will delete blockchains and try again
    edit : same problem, difficulty connecting
    edit : okay starting to get connected with some wallets to a few connections now
     
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    The progress bar is definitely suffering from premature darksendification. Wallet just ignores it and keeps on pumpin' though.
     
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    Then it should be removed to not confuse the average user. Still need to know why many are getting tx's that never confirm without zapping, whether the overages in rounds has been fixed, why 8 rounds isn't the min (and default), what happens on breaking denominations up for large tx transfers in terms of anonymity and the dead change issue, combining anon coins with non-anon coins and while this is still possible.
     
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  27. eduffield

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    Currently, my pool is the only one mining darksend transactions. Until all of the miners update, it'll be slower (should be really fast on mainnet though).

    http://ec2-54-197-169-85.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
     
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