RC5 Launch (MANDATORY UPDATE)

AjM

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I think you're right, there must be a bug in anonymizing small amounts and so far we know anonymizing only 2 drk is not possible, as you saw last night in the IRC channel what we did. I'm just reporting here to let the devs and everyone know. Another participant with 2 clients and I tried to anonymize 2 DRK.

All 3 clients had the same settings: 2 DRK to keep anonymized, 4 rounds.

Here's the result - The other participant said:

[22:33:44] <shlermb> both fresh, both sent 2drk, both set 2drk/4rnds. now show balance: 1.9865, completion: 100%, coin control shows 1drk having 1 round.
[22:33:55] <shlermb> anonymized: 0

At first , my wallet received 1 "Payment to yourself" fee... Then the waiting... After a while Darksend Status said "Disabled", BUT the "Start/Stop" button said "Stop Anonymization", meaning that DS was still on and the anonymization was still going!! Then I clicked on the button, it did not change one way or another, like it was being froze, (Windows wallet, v.10.13.15). I then had to exit the wallet and restarted it. The wallet seemed back to normal, the "Start/Stop" button seemed normal again. I clicked on the button to start DS again, but it did not do anything, still no Denominate fee ever happened, and 0 anon DRK. I saved the screenshot of my wallet:

View attachment 523

Hopefully, eduffield or flare will have time to look into this. :)
I think newbies are wanting to know how DS works and they start out with just a few Darkcoins, and when they try to anonymize 2 or 3 drk but it doesn't happen, they might think this doesn't work. :sad:
Maybe moli can comment about this to DRK-90 or make new issue (better, gets more attention).
 
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AjM

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My opinion about this 'small amount wont denominate and anonymize' is:

it is critical for Darkcoin, because new and average users will test with small amount first,
and because it wont work, DRK:s reputation and user experience is negative.
 
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bertlebbert

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I tried twice to anonymize using only 2 coins, just to see how the process works, and concluded , "It doesn't".

Maybe a message warning users "You may only anonymize minimum of x coins" to avoid such misconceptions.
 

thelonecrouton

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Was there any particular reason that denom/anon resolution only went down to 1 and not 0.1? Fees are still 1+ order of magnitude below this.
 

oblox

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OMG. Isn't it 87%? My bad...
Client/daemon wise, yes, but compliant-wise for enforcement, the pools need to be paying out 20%. Anything other than 20% is getting rejected. If you follow the pool discussion https://darkcointalk.org/posts/22360/ you'll see that because of one particular pool, we'll never get to the 90% target since they find on average about a quarter of the daily blocks.
 

TsuyokuNaritai

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If you follow the pool discussion https://darkcointalk.org/posts/22360/ you'll see that because of one particular pool, we'll never get to the 90% target since they find on average about a quarter of the daily blocks.
In that case, I suggest we deal with this abuse like so:

After we reach 90% client/daemon wise, we keep checking the blocks, and as soon as nine out of any ten successive blocks are fully compliant, BAM! :tongue:
 
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Kai

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My opinion about this 'small amount wont denominate and anonymize' is:

it is critical for Darkcoin, because new and average users will test with small amount first,
and because it wont work, DRK:s reputation and user experience is negative.
I agree, and if the value increases, anonymizing 0.05 DRK may be equivalent to anonymizing $300.
 

thelonecrouton

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In that case, I suggest we deal with this abuse like so:

After we reach 90% client/daemon wise, we keep checking the blocks, and as soon as nine out of any ten successive blocks are fully compliant, BAM! :tongue:
Evan said 90%, he didn't say how long for. :D
 

HammerHedd

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Already had a look at compiling the x64 variant too, but there are some incompatibilities with the mingw compiler used - still hoping to get that sorted out.

I have a Windows system on x64 as well and do not experience any issues - what does the console return when you enter 'getinfo' for walletversion - 60000 or 60001?
It's 60000. Is there a way to regen the wallet without losing my addresses?
 

UdjinM6

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It's 60000. Is there a way to regen the wallet without losing my addresses?
Not sure if you can regenerate a wallet but you can use dumpprivkey/importprivkey commands to dump you key from your old wallet and import them to a new one
 
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oblox

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Not sure if you can regenerate a wallet but you can use dumpprivkey/importprivkey commands to dump you key from your old wallet and import them to a new one
Which is no different than sending coins. There isn't a way to keep your address.
 

oblox

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actually dumping/importing your private keys is the way to keep your address....
Hmm, I'll have to look into that as I was always under the impression that once imported, the old address is essentially dead.