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TroyDASH

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update: we've been very lucky to have a new contributor come forward since my last message who has some awesome frontend skills like Joshua does. I'll let them intro themselves if they want. so we can speed up. I'll keep my guestimate of 4-8- weeks but should be able to bring this forward soon.
Hi @AndyDark, it has been 8 weeks since this post, may we please have an update on this project status and estimated delivery?
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AndyDark

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Well, 7 weeks and 6 days heh. Looking forward to seeing what you've got so far :)
Update: ok, so the consensus in the website team is to not rush out the site for today but push it to next Monday (14th) for a beta launch and that's a hard date not a guestimate - there's a few pages with work left to do (download, contacts, blog post details) and we need to run through all the pages again to update the copy/ content / translations.

I'll post it on Monday on a beta URL so we can test it publicly and fix / tweak any issues people have, before we go live on dash.org

thank you for everyone's patience, we're working hard on it and most of the team are volunteering outside of their dayjob / Evo work including Perry from Node40 who has been a massive help. We're pretty excited with it though and looking forward to releasing it, it will be great to inform users of Dash's benefits and drive traffic to merchants. i'll post the test link on the 14th

Cheers
Andy
 

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If you need more volunteers to look at it pre-beta, just let me know; i have a pretty good eye for detail.

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Update: ok, so the consensus in the website team is to not rush out the site for today but push it to next Monday (14th) for a beta launch and that's a hard date not a guestimate - there's a few pages with work left to do (download, contacts, blog post details) and we need to run through all the pages again to update the copy/ content / translations.

I'll post it on Monday on a beta URL so we can test it publicly and fix / tweak any issues people have, before we go live on dash.org

thank you for everyone's patience, we're working hard on it and most of the team are volunteering outside of their dayjob / Evo work including Perry from Node40 who has been a massive help. We're pretty excited with it though and looking forward to releasing it, it will be great to inform users of Dash's benefits and drive traffic to merchants. i'll post the test link on the 14th

Cheers
Andy
You guys are literally the worst web developers ever. I can't believe people are still buying this bull. You guys have the world record for longest time to launch a freaking few html pages. I am literally feeling bad for this community that they put up with this crap.


Soooo happy I don't have to worry about any of this crap anymore.
 

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Announcing soft-launch for the beta dash.org V2 website

Please find the beta site, for testing and evaluation:

http://www-test.dash.org/

Source: https://github.com/perrywoodin/dash-website

There are still some things to before the live launch, such as:
  1. Downloads page (wire up the downloads, additional content)
  2. Contacts page (create)
  3. Network (add exchanges, mining section)
  4. Team page (make sections / add missing people, bios, pics)
  5. Translations (add missing, add French)
  6. Blog - post images
  7. Styling - some pages need better styling
  8. SEO
  9. Analytics
  10. WIKI IA review / restructure

Thanks to the team:

0xfff - HTML/CSS/JS, Design lead
Joshua Siegler - HTML/CSS/JS, Style lead
Perry Woodin - HTML/CSS/JS, Architecture, Build, Testing
Sean Ryan - Data/API
Andy Freer - HTML/JS, content, layouts, testing
Tungfa - Content, research, translations, testing
maybeinc.com - initial design
etherdesign.io - design support
Alex-ru - Translations
Junior Spector - Translations
SilvioHick - Translations
Leonidas - Translations
Fernando - Multi-tooling, translations
..and anyone i missed

Going forward...

Contributing:

What would help is more people developing on the HTML/CSS/JS side as everyone in the current team has day-jobs and Evo work. (we are looking for a fullstack HTML/CS/JS developer with Backbone experience to do this fulltime). If you know someone for the fulltime position, or you are willing to contribute please get in touch (ping me here or email andy at dash.org) or submit your pull requests to the main repo: https://github.com/perrywoodin/dash-website (will be moved to dashpay when we go live)

Testing:
We'd appreciate help with general testing links, content, missing items (like forums, merchants, dash websites we can link), translations, images, copy

Bugs / Issues / Suggestions:
You can report suggestions here or for issues please post on the Github repo: https://github.com/perrywoodin/dash-website

Go live:
Once we're happy the beta is ready and the remaining work done we can launch it to dash.org, and maintain the current site for a time on e.g. old.dash.org

Next phase (V3)
The next version will be the Evo version, with the main call to action being to signup a user account instead of downloading a wallet. This has been taken into consideration so this site is half way there already and we can reuse the architecture. We will start on V3 soon as this one is launched.

PS:
Special thanks to Perry & Sean from Node40 for putting in a lot of hours and foundations for this outside of their day job hosting Masternodes at https://node40.com/ :)

By the way, @0xfff made a masternode visualizer in WebGL. We didn't have time to put it in the beta as it needs optimizing and some browser detection (as it needs a 3D card and latest browser too) so it's just a static image on the homepage for now. but you can checkout the live version here:

http://0xfff.io/dash-masternode-globe/

Thanks,
Andy Freer
 
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TroyDASH

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Thanks @AndyDark and everyone involved to getting a test version out!

One comment I have, testing the http://www-test.dash.org/community/ page (and the main page) on both desktop (firefox) and mobile (android/chrome), to me it is not obvious that those lists are scrollable. On mobile, from the home page it gets me used to scrolling down, not across so it doesn't occur to me that I can swipe to the side to see more, especially since it only shows one giant icon at a time. And on desktop I can kind of see those fading effects on the sides but it's not immediately apparent that you can click/drag to view more. The way that it scrolls on desktop is also a little awkward (when I repeatedly click/drag with my mouse, it seems to occasionally get "stuck" and scroll in the wrong direction).

Also FYI the http://www-test.dash.org/contact/ page is a placeholder. EDIT: but you already knew that ;)

Edit #2: The "Source Code" link on the page footer points to https://github.com/dashpay/dash-website which is a 404

I'll keep poking around :)
 
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tx for the posts
please keep em coming
i am updating a google doc for andy and others with "issues" reported
 
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This is just my opinion but with regards to the tagline under the main heading:

The first truly decentralized digital money system

I've always felt the buzzword "decentralized" is a word that most 'ordinary' people just can't quite resonate with. It doesn't mean much to them like it does to us. So I think highlighting being "the first" in a hard-to-relate quality is an ineffective picture-painter for the minds of visitors. Thus, all of this assuming a target demographic more so of laypersons, I think a simple reword to:

A revolutionary digital money system

might better serve the face of Dash
 

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Thanks for the feedback so far!

Please keep it coming.

-Sliders - yes these need tweaking to get the behaviour correct and probably add scroll buttons to make it obvious
-Terminology - yep
-Tag line - yes, would be good to improve the wording especially on the homepage, and the lead section: "Dash is digital cash you can spend online" and the paragraph below it
- source code link - that's the correct link when we go live and relocate from Perry's account
- other items - the 10 i mentioned above are the main ones but we also have a lot more minor items tracked internally

The best contributions right now would be on the HTML/CSS/JS side so just a reminder if you can contribute to finish some of these items, welcome to join in here: https://github.com/perrywoodin/dash-website

I won't be around much the next 2 days then I need to catch up on Evo projects (as do @Joshua and @0xfff) but hopefully with the bulk of this new site done it should be easy to finish the remaining items, us Evo devs will reduce our time on this project but I think one of the PMs can step in to help get to live launch with the remaining devs and the new hires, and @tungfa is tracking additional issues we find and working on the content side and with the translators.

Overall the plan is really to just complete the remaining items and tie this into the 12.1 launch over the next month so we have a bit of time to get everything right.

Thanks
Andy
 
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Just a note on Merchant adoption and things in the new site to help this along potentially (and @TanteStefana relating to what you have been saying recently)

1. Merchant directory - http://www-test.dash.org/merchants/

The idea here is to list all the merchants who accept Dash and categorize them to make it easier for Dash users to discover and use merchants/services that take Dash. Existing Dash users know to visit that page for an upto date list, and new users have a top level item to make this easier to find. At the same time, give merchants links to all our integration tools to make the integration process easier, and give them a listing in the directory to help drive Dash users to them.

2. Featured Merchants - "Shop direct with Dash" section on the homepage http://www-test.dash.org/

In this section we can feature new or popular merchants, to help drive landing page traffic to these merchants and give them another small incentive to integrate Dash and get listed there. We need to be fair and rotate these so we don't promote any particular merchant service.

So...the community can help by a) finding new merchants and pointing them to the site / integration helpers when it goes live and b) helping finding existing Dash merchants so we can get them listed, and also see if they have any issues or need any help. c) any better ideas or anything else you think can help :)

The system we're working on for Evolution will automate this whole process so we can reach a lot wider audience of merchants / consumers without a manual overhead, but for now see this as a 'static' version and if people have time to increase merchant adoption right now using this kind of strategy then why not? :) (plus when we launch Evolution we can add all these merchants to the system and for the larger ones work with them / learn from them by getting them on the Evo platform early)

Cheers
Andy
 
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I like the new design!
I don't know why but the "!" after "Dash is Digital Cash" makes me feel like assaulted, or looks like a scam, but it's just a feeling.

What can I do to help on french translation? Who is in charge of it?
 

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Hi, I'm using a normal sized iPad to view the test site.

When u click the The 'discussion' button under the 'social' heading the following are displayed :

Google+ / Twitter / Facebook

YouTube is only visible if you scroll using the right hand arrow.


Please change this level of prominence!

Google+ is a ghost town. No one is there!

YouTube is where it's at and Amanda/Dash Detailed is our biggest new user recruiter.

Please give YouTube the prime position on this page.

Thanks!
 

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Hi, I'm using a normal sized iPad to view the test site.

When u click the The 'discussion' button under the 'social' heading the following are displayed :

Google+ / Twitter / Facebook

YouTube is only visible if you scroll using the right hand arrow.


Please change this level of prominence!

Google+ is a ghost town. No one is there!

YouTube is where it's at and Amanda/Dash Detailed is our biggest new user recruiter.

Please give YouTube the prime position on this page.

Thanks!
i think we are pointing to the wrong G+
have to double check when back on computer

discussion
well twitter , FB are the most active - YT is not really a discussion link - more a learning page
i check it later - tx - keep the ideas coming
 

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I like the new design!
I don't know why but the "!" after "Dash is Digital Cash" makes me feel like assaulted, or looks like a scam, but it's just a feeling.

What can I do to help on french translation? Who is in charge of it?
interesting
(we definitely do NOT wanna assault you or anybody else )
i look into it - tx

french is already in the works
tx for the offer
 

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i think we are pointing to the wrong G+
have to double check when back on computer

discussion
well twitter , FB are the most active - YT is not really a discussion link - more a learning page
i check it later - tx - keep the ideas coming
Well,

YouTube is definitely a social media ap.

But on the new website it's hidden behind Facebook and Twitter (ok fair enough) but Google + should not be given prominence over youtube. I think we are missing an open goal if YouTube is not displayed clearly on this page.

Btw, did you know YouTube has for quite some time now been the second biggest search engine in the world? It is only surpassed by google search.

Anyway, google + is a failed social media experiment.

It should not be given the prominent position on our social media apps page.

(I think it makes us look a bit dumb, because it calls our judgement of what is and what is not of importance into question.)

Thanks,

Super8
 

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Hey,
There are some discussions about "bugs" in Russian Dash Telegram chat.
Some screenshots from there:





 

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Thank you for all the reported issues! We are working on them one after another.
Please be informed that a new version of the test website (with part of the identified issues fixed) is released. Please keep posting your feedback in this thread.
Thank you :)
 
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