v0.10.13.x RC5 Testing

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20% additional mining payments (not paying MNs).
You don't need to change the protocol version for that - simply don't pay the MN. As long as the MN payments are not enforced (i don't like the term) MN operators are relying on volunteer MN payments - but that's well known and has been discussed several times.
 

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You don't need to change the protocol version for that - simply don't pay the MN. As long as the MN payments are not enforced (i don't like the term) MN operators are relying on volunteer MN payments - but that's well known and has been discussed several times.
OK, so I don't understand the point? Evan said in a different post that kicking off old protocol versions would give us 90+% payments?
 

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I think after anonymizing the backup screen should appear with a message stating its Extremely Important To Backup wallet .dat or something similar. I could see this being a problem for newbies.

sorry if already mentioned else where
 
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I think after anonymizing the backup screen should appear with a message stating its Extremely Imported To Backup wallet .dat or something similar. I could see this being a problem for newbies.

sorry if already mentioned else where
Good point--and possibly a button to do it (select directory to save in, etc.). With wallet.dat being in %appdata%, not many novices will ever be able to find it.
 

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OK, so I don't understand the point? Evan said in a different post that kicking off old protocol versions would give us 90+% payments?
I think you are refering to this post:

I'm going to kick older protocol versions off of the network with RC5. We should be able to get 90%+ because of this. This is also another reason enforcement isn't needed right now, I'd like to try this first.
I don't know how Evan comes to the conclusion that solely the protocol version has a impact on MN payment rate - actually ~90% is the status quo. Even if we kick all pre RC5 clients from the network, the pools that did not update their stratum code will still pay whatever they want.

 

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I think you are refering to this post:



I don't know how Evan comes to the conclusion that solely the protocol version has a impact on MN payment rate - actually ~90% is the status quo. Even if we kick all pre RC5 clients from the network, the pools that did not update their stratum code will still pay whatever they want.

It blows my mind that the core of our entire technology relies on people *voluntarily* sacrificing 20% of their mining revenue...

It's not that 90% payment rate is insufficient, it's that I don't like the entire protocol depending on altruism!
 

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It blows my mind that the core of our entire technology relies on people *voluntarily* sacrificing 20% of their mining revenue...

It's not that 90% payment rate is insufficient, it's that I don't like the entire protocol depending on altruism!
Welcome to my world :)
 
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compiling
CI-builds for v0.9.13.5-g6bdeb35

Windows 32bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/DWD-DRK/QTL/build-117/gitian-win-darkcoin-bin/32/darkcoin-qt.exe
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...tian-win-darkcoin-bin/32/daemon/darkcoind.exe
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...coin-bin/32/darkcoin-0.9.13.5-win32-setup.exe

Mac OS X:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/browse/DOD-DRK-98/artifact/QTL/gitian-osx-darkcoin/DarkCoin-Qt.dmg

Linux 32bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/BL-DRK/QTL/build-96/gitian-linux-darkcoin-bin/bin/32/darkcoin-qt
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/BL-DRK/QTL/build-96/gitian-linux-darkcoin-bin/bin/32/darkcoind

Linux 64bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/BL-DRK/QTL/build-96/gitian-linux-darkcoin-bin/bin/64/darkcoin-qt
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/BL-DRK/QTL/build-96/gitian-linux-darkcoin-bin/bin/64/darkcoind

CI-builds for v0.10.13.5-g62f08ce

Windows 32bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...arkcoin-rc-darkcoin-qt-bin/32/darkcoin-qt.exe
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...coin-rc-darkcoind-bin/32/daemon/darkcoind.exe

Mac OS X:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/browse/DOD-DRKRC-35/artifact/QTL/gitian-osx-darkcoin-rc/DarkCoin-Qt.dmg

Linux 32bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...tian-linux-darkcoin-rc-bin/bin/32/darkcoin-qt
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...gitian-linux-darkcoin-rc-bin/bin/32/darkcoind

Linux 64bit:
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...tian-linux-darkcoin-rc-bin/bin/64/darkcoin-qt
http://bamboo.darkcoin.qa/artifact/...gitian-linux-darkcoin-rc-bin/bin/64/darkcoind
 

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Thank you, flare, for doing all the compiling for us ... :)
BTW, the testnet faucet is down. Is there another faucet?
Thank you.
 

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It blows my mind that the core of our entire technology relies on people *voluntarily* sacrificing 20% of their mining revenue...

It's not that 90% payment rate is insufficient, it's that I don't like the entire protocol depending on altruism!
This.

Enforcement now! xD
 

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Thank you for taking the time to read my "DarkMix" proposal. My goal is to try to make this wallet easier to understand for the average person (non-techie) such as myself.

I see based on the feedback, my proposal isn't happening, and I accept that.

Now, turning to today's conversation, I agree with an earlier post suggesting to have a "Darksend" tab, and move the info from the overview screen to the tab.

Overview screen would have balance, and anonymized balance, with a note to check the Darksend tab for more detail.

Darksend tab could then take advantage of space to have all options easily spelled out with help, and a larger status bar complete with explanation messages about what's currently happening in the process.

Tao
 
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So the RC5 client will deny connections from anybody running RC2, for instance?
isn't that by definition a fork? if that RC2 finds a block, it will propagate it to only the RC2 and like minded clients? what am I missing?
 

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isn't that by definition a fork? if that RC2 finds a block, it will propagate it to only the RC2 and like minded clients? what am I missing?
You are missing nothing - it's a fork, but RC2 clients are in minority and their chain will get orphaned by the network.
 

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What about this?
Hello Evan,
We need to show our level of professionality in every detail. DS+ is the best mixer. Lets act like it .
I want to choose the level of anonymization.
As far I understand , I need to hit Start button and wait until medium anonymization and hit stop , If medium anonymity is needed. In this situation you are making me waiting in front of the screen to hit the stop button.
We need to choose the level of anonymity. 2,4,8 round are enough .
Also after anonymization is done, I want to see what it mean. Lets say I choose 8 rounds. I want to see the mathematics like 3 person paired per 8 rounds = 1 to 6561. This is going to show me the real level of anonymizaiton .
 

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You are missing nothing - it's a fork, but RC2 clients are in minority and their chain will get orphaned by the network.
Did Evan say something about it would keep forking even with a soft fork?
 

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You are missing nothing - it's a fork, but RC2 clients are in minority and their chain will get orphaned by the network.
Then lets call a spade a spade.... this is a mandatory update , there will be forks. not spork.
 
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I would still love to see a separate tab that says something like this:

Your 613 DRK has been divided into the following denominations to be anonymized:

500...Darksend rounds completed: 3/8
100...Darksend rounds completed: 3/8
10...Darksend rounds completed: 4/8
1...Darksend rounds completed: 5/8
1...Darksend rounds completed: 5/8
1...Darksend rounds completed: 3/8
 

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Thank you, flare, for doing all the compiling for us ... :)
BTW, the testnet faucet is down. Is there another faucet?
Thank you.
I have 18k tDRK if anybody needs some...just post an address.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to read my "DarkMix" proposal. My goal is to try to make this wallet easier to understand for the average person (non-techie) such as myself.

I see based on the feedback, my proposal isn't happening, and I accept that.

Now, turning to today's conversation, I agree with an earlier post suggesting to have a "Darksend" tab, and move the info from the overview screen to the tab.

Overview screen would have balance, and anonymized balance, with a note to check the Darksend tab for more detail.

Darksend tab could then take advantage of space to have all options easily spelled out with help, and a larger status bar complete with explanation messages about what's currently happening in the process.

Tao
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Would really like to see a "coin control for dummies" section showing how many coins at each stage of anonymization:

Round Amount
0 599.65441
1 10.00000001
2 0
3 0
4 990.00000019
5 0
6 0
7 0
8 0
 
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What about this?
This is not my own work but just a screenshot of something that I've found on the web.

What about using buttons like this that clearly indicates whether anonymizing is turned ON or OFF? Even for newbies it's quite obvious when it's ON and when it's OFF, just my thoughts on this...

 
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This is not my own work but just a screenshot of something that I've found on the web.

What about using buttons like this that clearly indicates whether anonymizing is turned ON or OFF? Even for newbies it's quite obvious when it's ON and when it's OFF, just my thoughts on this...

Does the top one mean "IT IS ON" or "TURN IT ON"? :D
 

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Does the top one mean "IT IS ON" or "TURN IT ON"? :D
Haha, well it could say (for the green) "TURNED ON" and (for the red) "TURNED OFF".. or "CURRENTLY ON"/"CURRENTLY OFF", you get the point! :)
 
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okay, testing with windows wallet v0.10.13.5
Total Balance 20.000
Darksend Amount and Rounds : 19.800 / 8 rounds

first split as exspected with new splitting methode :

 
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