Universal Dividend and Web of Trust for Dash (v2)

Would you like a Universal Dividend and/or/xor a Web of Trust to be incorporated in Dash?

  • yes for the Universal Dividend

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  • yes for the Web of Trust

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • other

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vazaki3

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The original thread was locked, so I repost this thread, in order for the discussion to be continued, and most importantly, in order for the vote to be continued.

This is just a question.

Universal Dividend means that everyone who owns a dash wallet, he gets a basic income just for beeing a member of the community. This basic income could be from 0 dashcoins to total_dashcoins/members, and this could be a subject to vote.

In order to give a basic income, of course a Web of Trust is needed. Because we have to distinguish dash members that are real persons, and not alternative accounts.

So what do you think about it?
 

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The problem is, dash is not suited for this kind of thing and certainly can not compete on income. We'd get eaten alive trying to compete on ROI or APR. Just look at Ryan's failed attempt to increase the masternode count.

From all these income streams, whether it's masternode rewards or staking in general, "investors" invariably spend a portion of their income buying bitcoin, knowing full well that trying to earn bitcoin is a much harder affair. In other words, all these staking options amount to "easy money".

I think we should do the opposite, though to what amount I'm not sure. I think we should setup a proposal to burn, say, 5 million dash via a hardfork. "Burn" is not the right word because it would never be created but you know what I mean, to dramatically decrease the total supply.
 

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From all these income streams, whether it's masternode rewards or staking in general, "investors" invariably spend a portion of their income buying bitcoin, knowing full well that trying to earn bitcoin is a much harder affair. In other words, all these staking options amount to "easy money".
Thats what the web of trust/ proof of individuality is ment for.
We will know which members sell their dash to another coin, then decide to reduce their basic income.

The basic income will be a subject to vote. A "vote the numbers" vote.
So it could also be 0 dash for everyone (meaning no basic income at all), in case we decide that.

I think we should do the opposite, though to what amount I'm not sure. I think we should setup a proposal to burn, say, 5 million dash via a hardfork. "Burn" is not the right word because it would never be created but you know what I mean, to dramatically decrease the total supply.
Burn some millions of dash? I agree. Lets "vote the numbers" for that too.
 
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Universal Basic Income Payments: Which states and cities offer payments of up to $125 million? | Marca

What are the universal basic income (UBI) programs throughout the US country?

Alaska
  • Program: Alaska Permanent Fund
  • Duration: Annual
  • Payments: $1,114 in 2021
  • Participants: All Alaska residents
Compton, California
  • Program: Compton Promise
  • Duration: December 2020 to December 2022
  • Payments: $1,800 every three months for two years
  • Participants: 800
Long Beach, California
  • Duration: Fall 2021 to Fall 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 500
Los Angeles California

Duration: Three years
  • Payments: $1,204 per month
  • Participants: 150 people ages 18-24 receiving general relief benefits
Los Angeles California

  • Program: Big jump
  • Duration: January 2022 to January 2023
  • Payments: $1,000 a month for one year
  • Participants: Approximately 3,000
Marin County, California

  • Duration: 2021 to 2023
  • Payments: $1,000 a month for two years
  • Participants: 125 low-income women raising at least one child under the age of 18
Oakland, California

  • Program: Oakland Resilient Families
  • Duration: Summer 2020 to present
  • Payments: $500 a month for 18 months
  • Participants: 600
Sacramento, California

  • Program: Sacramento Direct Investment Program
  • Duration: June 2021 to June 2022
  • Payments: $300 a month for two years
  • Participants: 100
San Francisco, California

  • Program: The South San Francisco Guaranteed Income Program
  • Duration: October 2021 to October 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 135

Santa Clara County, California

  • Program: Santa Clara County Basic Income Pilot Program
  • Duration: June 2020 to early 2022
  • Payments: Up to $1,000 per month
  • Participants: 2,400 to 2,500 young adults transitioning out of foster care
Stockton, California

  • Program: SEED (Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration)
  • Length: February 2019 to February 2021
  • Payments: $500 a month for two years
  • Participants: 125
Gainesville, Florida

  • Program: Fair Income CNG
  • Length: Winter 2021/2022 at the beginning of 2023
  • Payments: $1,000, then $600 a month for 11 months
  • Participants: 115 formerly incarcerated people
Chicago, Illinois

  • Length: One year from the start date TBD 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month
  • Participants: 5,000 low-income people earning less than $35,000 a year
Gary, Indiana

  • Program: Guaranteed Income Validation Effort
  • Length: Spring 2021 to Winter 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 200
Shreveport, Louisiana

  • Length: December 2021 to December 2022
  • Payments: Up to $600 a month for one year
  • Participants: 100 single parents or legal guardians of school-age children
Cambridge, Massachusetts

  • Program: Cambridge Recurring Income for Success and Empowerment
  • Length: June 2021 to December 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for 18 months
  • Participants: 120
Chelsea, Massachusetts

  • Program: Direct Assistance Stipend Program
  • Longitude: November 2020 to present
  • Payments: Between $200 to $400 per month
  • Participants: 2,000
Lynn, Massachusetts

  • Program: Family Health Project
  • Length: May 2021 to May 2024
  • Payments: $400 a month for new moms for a child's first three years
  • Participants: 15
Saint Paul, Minnesota

  • Program: People's Prosperity Guaranteed Income Pilot Program
  • Length: October 2020 to May 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for 18 months
  • Participants: 150
Jackson, Mississippi

  • Program: Magnolia's Mother Trust
  • Length: December 2018 to present
  • Payments: $1,000 a month for one year
  • Participants: 110 low-income African American mothers
Santa Fe, New Mexico

  • Program: City of Santa Fe Learn, Earn, Achieve Program
  • Length: 2021 to 2022
  • Payments: $400 a month for one year
  • Participants: 100 young parents enrolled at Santa Fe Community College
Hudson, New York

  • Program: HudsonUp
  • Length: 2020 to 2025
  • Payments: $500 a month for five years
  • Participants: 25
Rochester, New York

  • Program: Guaranteed Basic Income
  • Length: Two years
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 175 low-income families
Ulster County, New York

  • Program: Project Resilience
  • Length: Spring 2021 to Spring 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 100
Newark, New Jersey

  • Program: Newark Movement for Economic Equity
  • Length: Fall 2021 to Fall 2022
  • Payments: Bi-weekly payments of $250 and semi-annual payments of $3,000 for two years
  • Participants: 400
Paterson, New Jersey

  • Program: Guaranteed Income
  • Length: July 2021 to July 2022
  • Payments: $400 a month for one year
  • Participants: 110
North Carolina/Cherokee Tribe

  • Program: Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians Casino Dividend
  • Length: Annual
  • Payments: $4,000 to $6,000 a year
  • Participants: Each member of the tribe
Durham, North Carolina

  • Program: Excel Pilot Program
  • Length: 2022 to 2023
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 115 Durham residents who were incarcerated in the last five years
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

  • Program: PGH Assured Cash Experiment
  • Length: End of 2020 to end of 2022
  • Payments: $500 for two years
  • Participants: 100 African American women and 100 people of any race or gender, all from low-income zip codes
Providence, Rhode Island

  • Program: Providence Guaranteed Income Pilot
  • Length: November 2021 to December 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 110
Columbia, South Carolina

  • Program: Columbia Life Improvement Monetary Boost
  • Longitude: Early 2021 to present
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 100 low-income parents
Alexandria, Virginia

  • Program: Alexandria Guaranteed Income Pilot Program
  • Length: December 2021 to December 2023
  • Payments: $500 a month for two years
  • Participants: 150

Richmond, Virginia

  • Program: Richmond Resilience Initiative
  • Length: October 2020 to December 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 18 low-income working families who do not qualify for help
Tacoma, Washington

  • Program: Growing Resilience in Tacoma
  • Length: December 2021 to December 2022
  • Payments: $500 a month for one year
  • Participants: 110