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Just need the legal approval :-D
Just need the legal approval :-D
So, from your own post, "The name IS the brand, and sets the tone for everything your brand is about."We don't need an amazing name? Are you completely insane?
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This is from the PDF I linked above from a company which specialize in creating brand names. You do this rebrand ONCE and you get something that sticks. That's not done in a few pages of posts, half of which are people saying they either hate or like "Dash.
The more i see that logo, the more I am pleased with it. Took me by complete surprise that something so simple could look so elegant and professional.<<<<< Ready for the change
Just need the legal approval :-D
I suggest that after all we'll become great copywriters and brand-makers here - so later we also can learn programming and could really help DRK in practice with the same enthusiasm.Read something like this to start people - http://www.zinzin.com/guides/zinzin-naming-guide.pdf
Then understand what's in a name.You can invent words, you can use words that evoke emotions, you can mix words (Power+Dollar for example for POLLAR as in (former darkcoin) is Money that gives the power back to you and away from institutions). etc.
...yeah, like digital and cash: Dash.Read something like this to start people - http://www.zinzin.com/guides/zinzin-naming-guide.pdf
Then understand what's in a name.You can invent words, you can use words that evoke emotions, you can mix words (Power+Dollar for example for POLLAR as in (former darkcoin) is Money that gives the power back to you and away from institutions). etc.
Very well said, with descriptive, constructive words. DASH is the way to go.I would say there are more and more people getting comfortable with using the name Dash if it's available. It may not be "perfect" nor does it have to be. It describes Darkcoin's current utility and offering perfectly in a simple, yet concise means of doing so and allows for creative word play in the process. It rolls off the tongue easily, it's neutral in numerous languages and it's a canvas to give meaning. You don't need something aggressive to get users. Apple is the perfect example because it's not flashy from an object standpoint but no one can argue against how large and powerful that brand became over the years. Again, it's not how aggressive (or how cool) the name is that will sell your products, it's the products and services you offer that ultimate define you (and the brand). There are tons of stupid names out there, yet they are all in business and growing because people enjoy what they have to offer. Quit being little bitches about this shit.
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Just need the legal approval :-D
If we find that DASH will be nothing but an up-hill battle - we'll deal with it when the time comes - like always :-DSeems like there's no point in really discussing this, for most of you its already Dash and you're not going to entertain anything else. I just hope it doesn't bite us in the ass.
When someone pitches something better that is more appealing than Dash, it might be in the cards, but so far I have yet to see anything that reaches it (and yes, there is an obvious bias since I suggested it back in Nov/Dec). I think it says a lot about the name with Evan buying Dashcoin's brand and pursuing trademark identification. Obviously, it won't be named it if it doesn't get favorable treatment from a trademark standpoint.Seems like there's no point in really discussing this, for most of you its already Dash and you're not going to entertain anything else. I just hope it doesn't bite us in the ass.
This is of course key. That's the one thing in all of this I fear the most, the trademark securing taking a long time. We need Evan to push a technical update soon to get the focus off of this debate, it will kill us if it lasts too long...Obviously, it won't be named it if it doesn't get favorable treatment from a trademark standpoint.
Exactly like this - Except with a name that doesn't suck.So, from your own post, "The name IS the brand, and sets the tone for everything your brand is about."
Darkcoin = Digital Cash = DASH.
That is the brand, and it sets the tone for everything our brand is about.
Take 30 years to grow Dash into something like Apple has become and the name doesn't matter that much (even though "Apple" is awesome and fits for them as well.) Or get a headstart and use something VERY good from the beginning. Not something 'Ok' and definitely not something which 50% of people seem to hate.I would say there are more and more people getting comfortable with using the name Dash if it's available. It may not be "perfect" nor does it have to be. It describes Darkcoin's current utility and offering perfectly in a simple, yet concise means of doing so and allows for creative word play in the process. It rolls off the tongue easily, it's neutral in numerous languages and it's a canvas to give meaning. You don't need something aggressive to get users. Apple is the perfect example because it's not flashy from an object standpoint but no one can argue against how large and powerful that brand became over the years. Again, it's not how aggressive (or how cool) the name is that will sell your products, it's the products and services you offer that ultimately define you (and the brand). There are tons of stupid names out there, yet they are all in business and growing because people enjoy what they have to offer. Quit being little bitches about this shit.
Just because the resulting word is pronouncable doesn't make it good. Here I made my Pollar mashup (even using the D people like), it's more fun to say imo and sounds more powerful, yet it's not necessarily the right thing....yeah, like digital and cash: Dash.
Vocal Minority. They keep on repeating the name and talking about trademarks and how they'll face them instead of staying at step 1 - Actually deciding on a good name.Seems like there's no point in really discussing this, for most of you its already Dash and you're not going to entertain anything else. I just hope it doesn't bite us in the ass.
Exactly like this - Except with a name that doesn't suck.
Your opinion
Take 30 years to grow Dash into something like Apple has become and the name doesn't matter that much (even though "Apple" is awesome and fits for them as well.) Or get a headstart and use something VERY good from the beginning. Not something 'Ok' and definitely not something which 50% of people seem to hate.
50% of a sliver of the global population is a meaningless metric to go off of. Are you trying to tell me that the small niche of crypto users is representative of the potential population of users, especially when DRK only has a fraction of it? Further you say Apple is awesome and fits for them... how? What does an apple have to do with the products they make? At least with Dash, it represents what we are: Digital Cash and it's fast, like a 40 yard dash.
Just because the resulting word is pronouncable doesn't make it good. Here I made my Pollar mashup (even using the D people like), it's more fun to say imo and sounds more powerful, yet it's not necessarily the right thing.
Sounds stupid, again, my opinion, much like yours expressed to Dash. Why does the brand name have to sound powerful to get users? That's off putting.
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This entire thread has been people fighting to use Dash and very little alternative suggestions because people are just throwing shit out there. It's time to consider alternatives and actually work on them. That goes for the Dash supporters as well. (Oh just noticed you "invented" Dash, of course you're going to defend your first idea and be happy to have named a huge project, your bias shows.)
I may have suggested it but that does not mean I'm not open for other ideas. I also named the reference nodes over ubernodes and the Onyx release.
That's very productive.Exactly like this - Except with a name that doesn't suck.
Now, I'm going to be equally productive. Your suggestion sucks. See how that works?Just because the resulting word is pronouncable doesn't make it good. Here I made my Pollar mashup (even using the D people like), it's more fun to say imo and sounds more powerful, yet it's not necessarily
I, among many others, had nothing to do with the naming idea DASH, and I still support it 100%.This entire thread has been people fighting to use Dash and very little alternative suggestions because people are just throwing shit out there. It's time to consider alternatives and actually work on them. That goes for the Dash supporters as well. (Oh just noticed you "invented" Dash, of course you're going to defend your first idea and be happy to have named a huge project, your bias shows.)
When someone pitches something better that is more appealing than Dash, it might be in the cards, but so far I have yet to see anything that reaches it (and yes, there is an obvious bias since I suggested it back in Nov/Dec). I think it says a lot about the name with Evan buying Dashcoin's brand and pursuing trademark identification. Obviously, it won't be named it if it doesn't get favorable treatment from a trademark standpoint.
That's very productive.
Now, I'm going to be equally productive. Your suggestion sucks. See how that works?
I, among many others, had nothing to do with the naming idea DASH, and I still support it 100%.
SPARC is already way better than Dash. It has a nicer feel to it, sharper and stronger. Feels like it belongs more among other good names like Ripple etc. The acronym could be worked on I guess. Although a quick google search reveals lots of people using SPARC for different reasons.Maybe my post was not noticed by a lot of people so let me try again.
What do you guys think of SPARC, SPARC Pay or something along those lines? (Secure Private Anonymous Revolutionary Currency/Cash)
Does it sound good or stupid to you guys?
You know your argument is running out of steam when you resort to slander and baseless personal attacks. My friends think I'm quite cool!Let me be productive then. You're a dweeb. And the only thing you have contributed to this discussion is repeating the same "Dash! It's digital cash!" bullshit over and over again.
DASH is sterile and neutral and businesslike and boring enough to be liked by adults, which makes it good imo. Just reflects how DRK has matured.We don't need an amazing name? Are you completely insane?
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This is from the PDF I linked above from a company which specialize in creating brand names. You do this rebrand ONCE and you get something that sticks. That's not done in a few pages of posts, half of which are people saying they either hate or like "Dash.
Sorry - it is hard for me to explain complex things in English, but let me try:Here I made my Pollar mashup (even using the D people like), it's more fun to say imo and sounds more powerful, yet it's not necessarily the right thing.
DASH is sterile and neutral and businesslike and boring enough to be liked by adults, which makes it good imo. Just reflects how DRK has matured.
But if we want something "cool", then why not:
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Thank you for the reply. It seems that other usages are a computer architecture, some sparc servers for Oracle and a scholar publishing and academic coalition. All those are in a different subject from us. Can they be a real threat to a digital currency that has the same name?Let me be productive then. You're a dweeb. And the only thing you have contributed to this discussion is repeating the same "Dash! It's digital cash!" bullshit over and over again. The only thing I want is for people to stop for a second and actually work on alternatives.
SPARC is already way better than Dash. It has a nicer feel to it, sharper and stronger. Feels like it belongs more among other good names like Ripple etc. The acronym could be worked on I guess. Although a quick google search reveals lots of people using SPARC for different reasons.
There we go, now ideas are flowing a bit more. It's simple, it evokes emotion, it's not bland. Money is the pulse of life blabla whatever you want to come up with. Here's a logo.I'd like to chime in here shortly: I think the reasoning for Dash is sound (i.e. it's generic and can be filled with meaning as the project evolves). So while waiting for the legal issues to clear up, the best we can do is to think of a plan b in case we need one. So here's an idea for an equally nondescript name:
Pulse.
It isn't a clever acronym that contains a mission statement (which is a really geeky thing to do imo), just some simple term that also works as a verb. Like an apple, it's something familiar, with connotations of healthy (or even essential for life). It also contains slight allusions to network (and how everything works together as one).
The explanation may sound a bit new age, but it's just to try and get the point across. The features/mission statement (digital, anonymous, instant or whatever) can just be added as a subline. No need to burden the name with it.