Rebranding Followup

[TaoOfSatoshi]

Just out of curiosity, and I just thought of this, has everyone forgotten that we are supposed to be a currency? Or has the focus changed to being a business only? I think this is something that should be discussed.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/currency-or-business.4284/

 

[bigrcanada]

As hard as it may seem... IMHO Things are in play now. Now let's sit back and see what's what. I am very VERY certain that at this point there are lawyers involved and people meeting on what's to happen next. I'm willing to chill and see how this plays out. One thing is for certain... If lawyers and legalities are involved... This will take time, that's how it works. In mean time grab a glass of wine/beer/Scotch and relax folks.

 

[eltito]

Why would you change the name to a name that is a ready taken by a financial product-solution? And decide to challenge their trademark? A pre-existant financial and you want to name a financial the same name and challenge the first. I'm not going to call that like what it sounds out loud....

https://www.dashfinancial.com/

As I said, I'm not even certain that is the company. I'd have to look at the minutes from the last board meeting.

Whether that's the one or not, nobody owns a trademark on Dash. Someone has simply applied for one, and they are a start up, not established by any means, and younger than Darkcoin if I recall correctly. This is something of a foot race. The board is confident that we can obtain rights to the name, but this is one of the reasons this was not made public - it's not yet a certainty.

 

[r-ando]

No no that doesn't make any sense Eltitio and doesn't answer the question... click on the links and read

 

[splawik21]

As hard as it may seem... IMHO Things are in play now. Now let's sit back and see what's what. I am very VERY certain that at this point there are lawyers involved and people meeting on what's to happen next. I'm willing to chill and see how this plays out. One thing is for certain... If lawyers and legalities are involved... This will take time, that's how it works. In mean time grab a glass of wine/beer/Scotch and relax folks.

OK than... All to Canada...there are some wine barrels to empty

 

[r-ando]

Here is the last one clearly paragraphed:

Rothschild’s banking activities include Five Arrows Leasing Group, which provides a range of specialist asset financing facilities to UK companies.

Specific niche markets include print finance, broadcast, asset-based lending and leasing vehicles to local authorities.

Five Arrows Leasing Group is a diverse group of companies, offering distinct products and services, designed to add value to our clients.

These include:

• Dash Commercial Finance
• Five Arrows Business Finance
• Fineline Media Finance
• Five Arrows Leasing
• Five Arrows Outsourcing Solutions
• Specialist Fleet Services

 

[jimbit]

All o

Why would you change the name to a name that is a ready taken by a financial product-solution? And decide to challenge their trademark? A pre-existant financial and you want to name a financial the same name and challenge the first. And more than 1 pre-existant financial with the name Dash? Is somebody trying to sabotage Darkcoin?

I'm not going to call that like what it sounds out loud.... At least not until I get really disappointed... Don't you guys use google? So who's the dummy here? Me? maybe... I'm trying not to comment too much on the name change but it seems like we don't necessary have the smartest cookies here... Please feel targeted...

https://www.dashfinancial.com/

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=214577030

http://www.dash-finance.com/

http://www.dashfinance.com.au/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...oard-as-non-executive-chairman-274368361.html

http://www.dashplatform.com/features-dash-platform/financial-integrity-dash-platform/

http://www.dashholdingsgroup.com/

http://www.dashlagrange.org/credit/credit-rebuilding

Plus an existing Dashcoin! I don't say this often as a Zen Master but: wayt (what aree you thinking? hahaha)

Or is it that somebody has Rothschild talking to them?

http://www.rothschild.com/banking/asset_finance/

all of these companies
dash financial
dash commercial financial
dash finance
dash platform
etc
etc


None of them are just called dash... also, lets call darkcoin 'digital cash'; cash is not trademarked.. and if people start using the word DASH, well, we cant help that

 

[Minotaur]

Why would you change the name to a name that is a ready taken by a financial product-solution? And decide to challenge their trademark? A pre-existant financial and you want to name a financial the same name and challenge the first. And more than 1 pre-existant financial with the name Dash? Is somebody trying to sabotage Darkcoin?

I'm not going to call that like what it sounds out loud.... At least not until I get really disappointed... Don't you guys use google? So who's the dummy here? Me? maybe... I'm trying not to comment too much on the name change but it seems like we don't necessary have the smartest cookies here... Please feel targeted...

Did you really expect for a common term to be exclusive in the world in this day and age.

I also have Google, here is an example:

Financial institutions that use the term Circle and are not the cryptocurrency Company:

http://www.fullcirclellc.us/

www.circlefinance.co.za/

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=24807028

www.circlefinancial.co.uk/

www.circlepluspayments.com/

www.circle.org.uk/circle33/Pay_it

fundingcircle.com

circleinsurance.net/financial.html

fullcirclefinancialgroup.com

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/circle-plus-payments

And I just got tired of copy pasting URLs

 

[eltito]

No no that doesn't make any sense Eltitio and doesn't answer the question... click on the links and read

You edited those links in as I was responding.

With respect, I think your argument is a bit weak. "Financials" is a very broad brush, and none of those have the specific name we want nor do any of them do what we do.

 

[r-ando]

Hahaha sorry buddy minotaur you must take for an idiot, you are comparing the use of the word circle and the word Dash.

Believe me I'm also tired as seeing you guys so ineffective as a foundation. You have the worst PR people I have ever encountered and I havn't seen anything from the foundation as far as common business sense yet, or results, I'm still waiting. Come on hate me! prove to me you guys are really good! And can do better than use the same ****** name as the rothschilds financial product and say its not just called dash...

Also as an investor in Darkcoin and the only person to create a Darkcoin business so far as I know... Hate me if you want, if it makes you guys better that's ok!

 

[r-ando]

You edited those links in as I was responding.

With respect, I think your argument i

You edited those links in as I was responding.

With respect, I think your argument is a bit weak. "Financials" is a very broad brush, and none of those have the specific name we want nor do any of them do what we do.

s a bit weak. "Financials" is a very broad brush, and none of those have the specific name we want nor do any of them do what we do.

Thats fair... And with respect I think you're argument is weak and possibly maybe even (edited)

I'm going to get hated today... lol but thats ok as long as its good for Darkcoin because that is where my heart is, you are a founder and you want the same name as the rothchilds? and others ... What is going on here? Is this a coincidence?

 

[TaoOfSatoshi]

Thats fair... And with respect I think you're argument is weak and possibly maybe even stupid.

Hey man, relax, we're just having a discussion here and those comments are not helpful. Ease up a bit.

 

[HinnomTX]

We ARE competing with Western Union. InstantX could put them out of business.

http://www.ifad.org/remittances/maps/

EDIT
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"Today, the impact of remittances is recognized in all developing regions of the world, constituting an important flow of foreign currency to most countries and directly reaching millions of households – approximately 10 per cent of the world’s population."

That was a joke, but you couldn't see my tongue-in-cheek.

 

[r-ando]

Actually I think they are helpful and your comments are not very helpful sorry... Agree to disagree

 

[TaoOfSatoshi]

Actually I think they are helpful and your comments are not very helpful sorry... Agree to disagree

Are you an expert in this subject? Because I heard from the Foundation's lawyer that they have already considered the legal implications, you do not believe them?

 

[tungfa]

Hahaha sorry buddy minotaur you must take for an idiot, you are comparing the use of the word circle and the word Dash.

Believe me I'm also tired as seeing you guys so ineffective as a foundation. You have the worst PR people I have ever encountered and I havn't seen anything from the foundation as far as common business sense yet, or results, I'm still waiting. Come on hate me! prove to me you guys are really good! And can do better than use the same ****** name as the rothschilds financial product and say its not just called dash...

Also as an investor in Darkcoin and the only person to create a Darkcoin business so far as I know... Hate me if you want, if it makes you guys better that's ok!

r-ando r-ando .....
you wanna have a conversation (without caps locked)
ping me anytime !

 

[Minotaur]

Hahaha sorry buddy minotaur you must take for an idiot, you are comparing the use of the word circle and the word Dash.

Believe me I'm also tired as seeing you guys so ineffective as a foundation. You have the worst PR people I have ever encountered and I havn't seen anything from the foundation as far as common business sense yet, or results, I'm still waiting. Come on hate me! prove to me you guys are really good! And can do better than use the same ****** name as the rothschilds financial product and say its not just called dash...

Also as an investor in Darkcoin and the only person to create a Darkcoin business so far as I know... Hate me if you want, if it makes you guys better that's ok!

Dude you are extremely confused, I am not in the foundation board. I am a member of the foundation just like you. I am just active in trying to help, this is a volunteering project if you feel you can do better than others just go ahead and do it no one is stopping you.

 

[TaoOfSatoshi]

r-ando r-ando .....
you wanna have a conversation (without caps locked)
ping me anytime !

Emotions sure are running high these days, the personal attacks are non-stop...I guess that these are the eggs we need to crack to make an omelette...

 

[souptacular]

Thats fair... And with respect I think you're argument is weak and possibly maybe even stupid

I'm going to get hated today... lol but thats ok as long as its good for Darkcoin because that is where my heart is, you are a founder and you want the same name as the rothchilds? and others ... What is going on here? Is this a coincidence?

Give this whole process a few weeks. Legal things need to play out before we jump to conclusions. I would love for you to elaborate specifically on what the harm is naming the instant finance solution Digital Cash or DASH if we are able to obtain a trademark and other legal items? I know there are other companies and products named DASH, but I trust the lawyers who are involved in or hired by the foundation.

 

[r-ando]

Makes you look bad eh? Sorry too busy trying to figure out what you guys are doing to worry about your feelings... hahaha, become smart guys!

I'm not a nice guy, I'm a good guy. I'm also an asshole and I think its important to point out the weaknesses in your plans guys...

 

[r-ando]

Dude you are extremely confused, I am not in the foundation board. I am a member of the foundation just like you. I am just active in trying to help, this is a volunteering project if you feel you can do better than others just go ahead and do it no one is stopping you.

Sorry minotaur I did get you confused, my mistake...

But you did just compare the word circle to the word dash... right?

Namaste

 

[souptacular]

Whenever we refer to the "foundation making the decision" we are generally talking about the following members of the foundation:
https://www.darkcoinfoundation.org/about/team/
The decision making process the last few months may not have been exclusively those people on the page, but they are the "core team" behind the Darkcoin Foundation.

 

[bigrcanada]

Here is the last one clearly paragraphed:

Rothschild’s banking activities include Five Arrows Leasing Group, which provides a range of specialist asset financing facilities to UK companies.

Specific niche markets include print finance, broadcast, asset-based lending and leasing vehicles to local authorities.

Five Arrows Leasing Group is a diverse group of companies, offering distinct products and services, designed to add value to our clients.

These include:

• Dash Commercial Finance
• Five Arrows Business Finance
• Fineline Media Finance
• Five Arrows Leasing
• Five Arrows Outsourcing Solutions
• Specialist Fleet Services

I'm not too worried about it. Either way... Things always work. And besides... Things were getting a bit boring around here till this happened. Successful releases of features, the odd troll, and child Harold all boring. Hell this kicked up the community in quick hurry... For a second I thought I was going to see some fists flying... Any takers? I'm game for a Lil woop ass .

Seriously.. If anything this has solidified my believe that you folks are the best cryptography community out there. Let's have some faith in our Dev and company... So far... I've done well by keeping the faith . Evan is no dummy and it will probably come out he had this planned for long time already. I've seen that same quality in other leaders as well. And frankly why I bought in Jan/Feb 14...he was a man of action and put his real name behind it... Rare in the crypto world.

 

[souptacular]

Makes you look bad eh? Sorry too busy trying to figure out what you guys are doing to worry about your feelings... hahaha, become smart guys!

I'm not a nice guy, I'm a good guy. I'm also an asshole and I think its important to point out the weaknesses in your plans guys...

It is important to point out weaknesses and that is why this thread is here. I would wager that constructive criticism and ideas are looked upon and responded to better than the post I quoted from you.

I welcome your ideas, just be constructive if you want real responses and to be taken seriously. Be warned: many of the questions you have simply won't be answered until the core foundation team comes to a final decision and entirely figures out legal. It would be idiotic to announce anything before that time and just add to the confusion.

 

[TaoOfSatoshi]

Makes you look bad eh? Sorry too busy trying to figure out what you guys are doing to worry about your feelings... hahaha, become smart guys!

I'm not a nice guy, I'm a good guy. I'm also an asshole and I think its important to point out the weaknesses in your plans guys...

It's the way you're going about it that's wrong. You're a fellow Canadian, you should have better people skills than that. You may be right, but you're coming across as a douche right now.

 

[r-ando]

It's the way you're going about it that's wrong. You're a fellow Canadian, you should have better people skills than that. You may be right, but you're coming across as a douche right now.

Good... good... good... Yes I am right.

 

[TaoOfSatoshi]

Good... good... good... Yes I am right.

That remains to be seen.

 

[Minotaur]

Sorry minotaur I did get you confused, my mistake...

But you did just compare the word circle to the word dash... right?

Namaste

Yes, meaning when Circle a large VC funded crypto company was founded, a few months ago there were already many financial institutions with that name. But that name is only meaningful in the crypto sphere. Our name will mean something to our target market. That was my point.

 

[bigrcanada]

Good... good... good... Yes I am right.

R-ando! Is in Canada! Holy shit... We could use more people with your attitude up here sometimes. We're usually way to polite. Damn!

 

[r-ando]

Yes, meaning when Circle a large VC funded crypto company was founded, a few months ago there were already many financial institutions with that name. But that name is only meaningful in the crypto sphere. Our name will mean something to our target market. That was my point.

I know what you were trying to say... Its just that you chose to use one of the most common words in the english vocabulary to justify naming Darkcoin Dash...