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Pre-Proposal Discussion: Dash to fund Tezos

Discussion in 'Alternative Currencies' started by demo, Nov 23, 2016.

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Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?

  1. yes

    5.9%
  2. no

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  3. other

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    An amazing revolutionary project, which deals with big money, it is expected to have big problems.
    Many enemies are going to attack it, because many things are going to change and many people are going to lose their status quo, in case this project succeds.
    This project has devoted friends ....

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    ....and rabid enemies!!
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    This thread turned into discussion about Tezos and their problems instead of being a pre-proposal, moving to "Alternative Currencies"
     
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    Everybody has to admit this. The fact that Dash never raised an Initial Coin Offer , gives to Dash a moral advantage.

    Unless of course you consider as ICO the conspiracy theory claiming that stupids and spies bought masternodes in order to stop Dash's governance.This kind of subsidy cannot be proved of course, but everybody has to agree that a project baked by dollars is much worst than a project baked by bitcoins or ethereum. The dollar guys are considered much more evil and greedy than the ethereum or the bitcoin ones.
     
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    Some people are pissed off by the lawsuits, and started tezos libre
    https://ipfs.infura.io/ipns/QmT7A5yRJ1AMRUCXV6Ct2GvXxSbfWHHs7LCgm2kTFhsxbq
     
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    haha, tezos forking, the very thing it was designed to avoid! The whole project is a mess.
     
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    There is no surprise. Everything evolved exactly as expected.
    A nomic bank is always attacked by fiat money holders and fiat money proponents.
    This is what history shows.
    Big ships, big challenges....:rolleyes:
     
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    Tezos is coming

    14 [​IMG] Dash $2.010.053.232 $245,18 $159.900.000 8.198.209 DASH 4,96%

    18 [​IMG] Tezos $1.396.204.212 $2,30 $4.265.270 607.489.041 XTZ * 5,15%


    But some issues regarding aml/kyc (similar to here, once upon times) occured there.

    <vote history><-- why vote history is usefull?
    Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?
    yes 1 vote(s) 5.9%

    no 15 vote(s) 88.2%


    other 1 vote(s) 5.9%

    </vote history>
     
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    Has "some" issues is an understatement. Am happy with my decisions to avoid both eos and tezos. Meanwhile, decred has been rising through the ranks.

    As for dash, at the moment, I think the pros outweigh the cons. I therefore expect it to return to the top ten, so long as it gets something out this year and doesn't under deliver. The namespace thing is a major concern though. No one cares for yet-another-username and adding a novel payment structure will not save it. It has to be more than that.
     
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    Despite some issues regarding aml/kyc compliance (similar issues to here, once upon times) Tezos (which invested severely in governance research) is still getting closer and closer to dash.
    14 [​IMG] Dash $1.995.727.928 $243,18 $149.239.000 8.206.861 DASH -11,24%
    17 [​IMG] Tezos $1.290.847.388 $2,12 $3.003.740 607.489.041 XTZ * -0,99%

     
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    Tezos? Another thing I have not heard of before. Do they have a good reputation? How long have they been around? Looking at their website... Interesting logo, I like that. It also says on their website: "Tezos is currently testing and bug fixes to move out of its prototype phase. We are scheduling to release Tezos in Q1 2017." - perhaps we should wait and see if it is successful for others before funding anything.
     
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    Read here. They changed their protocol in the runtime. This is a very interesting technology.
    https://medium.com/@tezoshop/a-review-of-the-voting-public-bakers-fbbc22758dd7

    Another advantage is their smart contract language.
    Changing the protocol in the runtime and having a smart contrat language that focuses on transactions (rather than focusing on world computing that ethereum does), are very inovative ideas.

    The disadvantages of Tezos is that their community is not as active as Dash's community is. And also that they comply to AML/KYC.


    13 Dash DASH $1.232.091.759 $139,80 8.813.453 $384.537.415 0,63% 4,34% 15,79%
    14 Tezos XTZ $1.092.396.751 $1,65 660.088.777 * $7.028.787 0,46% -0,41% 30,83%

    The above smart contract code could be used if you would like to bind a representative with some money, so that if he does not acts/votes/behaves as you ordered him, he will lose his money.

    I dont know how Dash could implement a contract like the above.
     
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    Why are you bumping this thread @vazaki ? Are you planning to put in a proposal? This thread is 3 years old now.
     
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    Yes... I would like Tezos to instantiate dash in their Tezos platform. And see what will happen, and how the dash community would vote for the dash protocol to evolve. But I have not 5 dash available to put this as a proposal into the dash budget system.
     
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    Additionaly, now that the hard fork and split problem has been somehow resolved by the governed cryptocurrencies, I would like to see crypto-communities which have similar type of government and share similar values to merge eachother. Dash and Tezos have the same type of governence, they are both plutocracies (or hybrid plutocracies, after the implementation of voting delegation). So why not the two communities to merge eachother (based on their current market value) and create a bigger community and a bigger coin? After the arrival of the governed coins (with Dash being the first one), merging cryptocurrencies will be the next big thing into the crypto space. Let Dash be also the first coin that will merge with other coins.

    I would like to ask this government question into the dash budget system, but unfortunately the government questions are expensive.
     
    #79 vazaki, May 19, 2019
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