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Pre-Proposal Discussion: Dash to fund Tezos

Discussion in 'Alternative Currencies' started by demo, Nov 23, 2016.

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Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. other

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    Legit project, very legit team. Arthur was VP at Morgan Stanley, after being at Goldman Sachs, Kathleen was Sr. Strategy at R3. Interesting idea, not to mention they plan to implement a governance model similar to Dash. Apparently have better language for coding smart contracts than ETH (I'm not a dev so I can't verify this). I expect to see good things from them.
     
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    I have also proposed a self-correction system, in order to self-correct the two basic variables of every vote, the minimum participation and the selection process. This is what I call "the triple vote".
     
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    Why should we fund Tezos? What is it and why do you think it is beneficial for Dash users?
     
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    Have you read the thread? Watch the videos.
    Mainly because they want to make a self-amendment Nomic Bank.
    Of course the concept of a self-amendment Nomic Bank is something that the stupids cannot understand.
    The masternodes are totally stupid, the only thing they believe it worths to sponsor is feasts, amandas and MMA Fighters.

    <vote history>
    Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?
    *yes 1 vote(s) 9.1%
    no 9 vote(s) 81.8%
    other 1 vote(s) 9.1%
    </vote history>
     
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    https://twitter.com/tez0s/status/846789306165317632

    :p:p:p:p


    Beware. Stupids restricted zone.
    [​IMG]


    https://tezos.com/pages/tech.html

    Reservoir contract
    We want to create a contract that stores tez until a timestamp T or a maximum amount N is reached. Whenever N is reached before T, all tokens are reversed to an account B (and the contract is automatically deleted). Any call to the contract's code performed after T will otherwise transfer the tokens to another account A.
    We want to build this contract in a reusable manner, so we do not hard-code the parameters. Instead, we assume that the global data of the contract are (Pair (Pair T N) (Pair A B)).
    Hence, the global data of the contract has the following type
    Code:
    'g =
      pair
       pair timestamp tez
       pair (contract unit unit) (contract unit unit)
    
    Following the contract calling convention, the code is a lambda of type
    Code:
    lambda
      pair (pair tez unit) 'g
      pair unit 'g
    
    writen as
    Code:
    lambda
      pair (pair tez unit)
       pair
         pair timestamp tez
         pair (contract unit unit) (contract unit unit)
      pair unit
       pair
         pair timestamp tez
         pair (contract unit unit) (contract unit unit)
    
    The complete source reservoir.tz is:
    Code:
    parameter timestamp ;
    storage
      pair
       (pair timestamp tez) # T N
       (pair (contract unit unit) (contract unit unit)) ; # A B
    return unit ;
    code
      { DUP ; CDAAR ; # T
       NOW ;
       COMPARE ; LE ;
       IF { DUP ; CDADR ; # N
            BALANCE ;
            COMPARE ; LE ;
            IF { CDR ; UNIT ; PAIR }
               { DUP ; CDDDR ; # B
                 BALANCE ; UNIT ;
                 DIIIP { CDR } ;
                 TRANSFER_TOKENS ;
                 PAIR } }
          { DUP ; CDDAR ; # A
            BALANCE ;
            UNIT ;
            DIIIP { CDR } ;
            TRANSFER_TOKENS ;
            PAIR } }
    
     
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    If I understand correctly from their white-paper is that Tezos is about to upgrade production "stable" network with code that is already running in "testing" network.
    I *may* support if, but only if they show how it can be applied to the Dash network.
    Else what are the benefits for Dash ?

    Any kind of academic development must be a bonus for Dash, or else it will not get funding.
     
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    Yeah yeah.....sponsoring academic development related to cryptocurrency governance is stupid. The smart thing is to sponsor MMA fighters :rolleyes:

    Tezos people dont seem to care about Dash, neither they have ever propose smth here. You should go and beg them to help you.
     
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    If you want, ask them to develop a "seamless upgrade layer" for Dash. If they do, I will be happy to vote yes to fund them.

    If Dash network funds them, but they build their own alt-coin (Tez), what are the benefits for Dash users?

    OK, I found something on their Twitter channel: https://twitter.com/tez0s


    [​IMG]
     
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    No... first you vote, then they develop. Why someone to start developing something, if he is not sure that you want it?
     
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    Do they agree to develop "seamless upgrade layer" for Dash ? If they agree, at least on paper, we will evaluate their pre-proposal and discuss it seriously.
    There is a chance that they can get funded.

    They will be able to start development right after they get a "yes" vote from the Masternodes. (in 3 weeks from now)

    If they want our money, they will come here, for a pre-proposal and technical discussion.
     
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    I am not a Tezos affiliate. I am just a poor Dash community member.
    But I strongly believe that the Dash community should ask the help of those people.
    On the other hand I dont dare to bother the Tezos people, as far as I see the result in the poll of this thread.
     
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    >On the other hand I dont dare to bother the Tezos people, as far as I see the result in the poll of this thread.

    Vote may change into positive YES, if we are convinced that they will develop a "seamless upgrade layer" for Dash, rather than brand new alt-coin (Tez).
     
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    They will develop nothing for Dash, unless we ask them.
    And why ask them, as far as this pre-proposal has a negative NO result?

    <vote history>
    Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?
    *yes 1 vote(s) 8.3%
    no 10 vote(s) 83.3%
    other 1 vote(s) 8.3%
    </vote history>
     
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    Tezos or other coin actually would be a good idea if we look at how big successful company work : better own your competitors : coca-cola owns water, sprite, fanta, etc...

    Only thing is I am not sure how juridically the network could fund or own another coin (or part of it), and how that could beneficiate its users/masternodes (monetarily speaking)
     
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    Good remarks.
    Besides all this, the funding of a project and to just require for them to put your logo, it is a way to advertise.
     
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    https://www.tezos.com/
    The Tezos fundraiser is closed.
    funds received:

    65,697 BTC(XBT)
    361,122 ETH

    0 DASH
    You can check your contribution at check.tezos.com


    <vote history>
    Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?
    *yes 1 vote(s) 7.7%
    no 11 vote(s) 84.6%
    other 1 vote(s) 7.7%
    </vote history>
     
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    I did warn you. Expect a lot more turmoil in the coming months.
     
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    Two years in the making and still nothing.

    And if you read the whitepaper, you'd see they have special controls to rollback things if it doesn't quite work out the way they choose.

    It's a nice idea but very poorly executed. It's going to end badly.
     
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    They have a stable tezos version, which I succesfully compiled.
    I have failed (until now) to compile their alphanet, but thats normal with the old computer I have.
     
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    When they vote for a protocol change, they compile it in the fly and implement it asap.
    This is reflection my friend, and this sounds amazing.

    <vote history><-- why vote history is usefull?
    Would you like dash to fund Tezos in order they instantiate dash in their platform?
    yes 1 vote(s) 5.9%
    no 15 vote(s) 88.2%
    other 1 vote(s) 5.9%

    </vote history>
     
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    I have no doubt about the concepts, sandboxing etc, but the politics and slow pace is ridiculous
     

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