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Discussion in 'Pre + Budget Proposal Discussions' started by Dashmaximalist, Aug 21, 2017.

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Should we give $1 to everyone who signs up and verifies with SMS OTP ?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. stan.distortion

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    Really bad idea imho, there are only a relatively small number of phone numbers possible so it would be relatively easy to brute force a simple hash. Not sure beyond that though, the hashes re-hashed with another key would work but would put all the trust on the key holder, needs someone with crypto knowhow.
     
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  2. Dashmaximalist

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    yes thanks that's what we are planning to do anyway ;)
     
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    This would be a Solomonic decision.
     
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  4. demo

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    Read the below..

    https://security.stackexchange.com/...g-phone-numbers-without-actually-knowing-them
    :(


    but there is a solution, proposed h-idden

    o_O:)

    Or maybe another solution is to ask an authority to blindly sign a message containing your phone number, then implement some kind of a zeroknowlege proof.
     
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  5. Dashmaximalist

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    Why exactly did you do this , I just dont understand why you want to give away our ideas to others which doesn't give anything in return ??.
    Can you please explain whats your motivation
     
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    The more cryptocurrencies compete eachother by giving to the poor people some dividend, the better it is.
     
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  7. Dashmaximalist

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    That's a noble idea so I am going to reserve by bashing , but don't do this in future

    I am here to promote dash and dash only

    If you want to promote your own ideas feel free to do it , but this particular one is my idea , so the minimum you should do is take consent before sharing it with our rivals don't you think ??
     
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  8. demo

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    I appreciate your optimism, but I have the bad feeling that the proposal will fail both here and in PIVX.
    Your proposal is awesome, but the daemons are the majority in this universe, and the bad always prevails.
     
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  9. Dashmaximalist

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    i am not talking about the idea failing or winning , i am saying , why did you take the privilege of copying my idea ( word -to -word ) and use it elsewhere ?
     
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  10. demo

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    Because this is what I always do. There is not a single idea, not a single word, that originates from me.
     
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    thats real bad behaviour , please stop copy pasting others ideas .. atleast take consent for the love of internet..
     
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    You shouldnt complain. There is a clear reference to you, in the first sentence of the proposal in PIVX. You are priviledged in that sense, this is something I dont usally do in most of my other proposals.
     
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    just to be clear, this campaign might not sound sexy, but this is one that gives most bang for the buck , when you look at cost per user acquisition
     
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    Why would somebody want to go to the trouble of brute forcing a list of hashed telephone numbers of people who received Dash?
    Even though it may be cheap, the payoff is what?
     
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    Got a Big update everyone , i am very excited to announce that UI/UX part for https://getfreedash.com is done , we are doing some final testing and we will launch a pilot with few 100 users by giving them $1 each

    Your comments are welcome !!
     
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    Congratulation!
    Add a FAQ in the site.

    My first question in this FAQ is:
    What countries are supported?
     
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    Thanks will do
     
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    Thrilled to see Max Keiser doing a piece on Crypto Revolution in Africa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrlJqWnPQM&t=1095s

    This is the main focus of our campaign , to participate in the world's fastest growing consumer crypto market in Africa by enabling millions to onboard to dash an experience the power of Low fees and faster transactions Given the current economic instability in zimbabwe we plan to launch our first campaign there
    importers are facing lot of hardship due to the lack of dollars and dash can help them overcome this crisis https://qz.com/1119396/how-did-zimbabwes-economy-collapse/

    let me know what you are thoughts are you prefer us to start with zimbabwe or venezuela

    Thanks
     
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    Both zimbabwe and venezuela are countries rich in rare minerals or petrol, thats why US focus on them.
    If your SMS-OTP is for profit, you should go there and compet US government and the world monetary system in their try to control the economy of these countries.
    If your SMS-OTP is a non profit, you should choose other countries, which are in a worst situation than zimbabwe or venezuela
     
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    i need few news pieces which show the severity of financial situations of the respective countries , i dont want to get into conspiracy theories , only economic facts

    This is not non profit , its marketing for the most needy customers !!
     
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    By the way, together with SMS-OTP, you should also stream to the target countries the Dash blockchain from a Geosynchronous Satellite, proposed by @Gilemon

    This is because the people in these poor countries have limited internet bandwidth in their phones, so downloading the whole blockchain in their phones will be very costly for them. On the other hand, most of them may have satellite dishes, so if the blockchain was broadcasted from space, they could get the whole blockchain almost instantly.
     
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    Receiving $1 for your phone number feels scammy and I'm afraid it will give people a bad impression of Dash. Same for the referral system.
    I'm also not convinced that phone numbers aren't cheaper than $1 if you buy them in bulk. I expect this can be exploited.
    It will have to be a no from me.

    Edit: Now I'm confused, is this an old proposal or a new proposal?
     
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    This is not a proposal. It is a private initiative. It will may become a proposal, if @Dashmaximalist decides it, or if you can give 5 Dash proposal fee for it to become a proposal.
    Read the old initial discussion, and your questions will be asnwered.
    Yes I know, most of MNOs are stupid, illiterate and unable to read. If this is your case, then look at this image here.
     
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    please click on my signature which talks about this proposal its arguments and counter arguments etc

    Now coming to your questions, in the countries we are targeting , you just cant buy SIM cards in Bulk because you need to show ID verification and so on , In india there is a hard limit of 6 SIMs per person and the most important thing is 'the cost of getting a SIM card in the countries we are targeting is more than $1 most of the times
     
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    This idea implicitly targets third world folks to whom $1 is significant. I shall vote "yes" if it becomes a proposal.
     
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