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DashPay Point-of-Sale

Would you support this proposal if it was submitted?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 81.3%
  • Yes, with some changes

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • No

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
    32
So the two will have a sort of open architecture? Kind of like standardizing electrical outlets?

Realize that most vendors won't want that much "choice." It's just more crap they have to learn and understand. What they want is to sign a piece of paper and have it "just work" from that point on.

While I'm an advocate for choice, turnkey is what is wanted.

Kind of. Basically how it will work (tentatively) is this - a merchant that wants to receive DASH only will create a wallet on the device using the wizard and they will have a locally controlled wallet.

If a merchant wants to receive fiat (most likely) they will create a wallet with our online service and then when setting up the terminal they will select "existing account" and input their public key (or mnemonic seed). Similar to restoring a hardware wallet. It will still be very much a turn-key service.

Me too, lols! I just got the toolchanger for my Tormach over the holidays.
Is that for a pcnc? If you ever want to discuss machining stuff, I am on slack (dash nation and coin chat club).

You have no choice but to think out strategies unless you like losing hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Of course. Planning and problem solving are big parts of my bread and butter in daily life.

This is one of few proposals that I can endorse because the person behind it clearly has his shit together.

I haven't voted for anything in a long time. I might vote for this.

I've been looking for "the guy" who could code this idea. I think you're it. I hope this gets approved.

Well thank you for the confidence in this endeavor. I think my partner and I will be able to make this happen - the overall vision will take patience and it will have unexpected things crop up, I'm sure. That's a big reason why this proposal isn't a $5000/month for 6 months contract.

I plan to make a proposal at each stage of development when all has been thought out, concepts have been tested and delivery is just around the corner

I'd like to point out something about your image in the OP.

Keeping the InstanTX branding makes sense.

To be honest, the image in the OP is old, and a new logo has been made containing the InstantSend branding.

All graphics at this point are temporary for demos, etc. Even the name will be changed upon release to avoid confusion with other Dash products using the "dashpay" branding.
 
You might want to tap @moocowmoo about the Vending Machine IX detector code, or future 12.1/Evolution developments regarding IX. It's integral to this being useful, instead of just another clueless nerd thing that either expects vendors to put up with block depth for security, or tries to hide the truth from them. If it doesn't support IX, it can't be taken seriously.

I have tapped @moocowmoo (extensively) lol. He's been a very big help to me from the beginning of this project. I've also tapped @chaeplin and a few other members regarding the 12.1 updates and the demo is currently running on 21.1 testnet fantastically.

As far as IX support - this is the foundation of why this is possible. It currently supports IX very well and also detects payments that are not sent IX and notifies the merchant.

Also, I hope the devs are taking note that TX input locks need to be either recipient-triggered, or network/MN triggered. Being sender-side triggered, even if made default, still leaves open the possibility of a modified client failing to IX, and leaving the vendor hanging on a possible double-spend a la legacy bitclones.

I totally agree with this. Until a solution is found, our client requests IX by default but detects payments that come non-IX and notifies the merchant. It's important that we think of these cases in the development of something like this.
 
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12.1 has two option on InstantSend notify
1) dashd cmd option
Code:
  -instantsendnotify=<cmd>

      Execute command when a wallet InstantSend transaction is successfully

      locked (%s in cmd is replaced by TxID)

2) dashd zmq option
Code:
  -zmqpubhashtxlock=<address>

      Enable publish hash transaction (locked via InstantSend) in <address>

  -zmqpubrawtxlock=<address>

      Enable publish raw transaction (locked via InstantSend) in <address>

With zmqpubrawtxlock, rawtx is emmited. So any trigger can be set.

ex) decode block and tx(codes copied from other source) https://github.com/chaeplin/dash-testnet/blob/master/testnet-decode.py
 
12.1 has two option on InstantSend notify
1) dashd cmd option
Code:
  -instantsendnotify=<cmd>

      Execute command when a wallet InstantSend transaction is successfully

      locked (%s in cmd is replaced by TxID)

2) dashd zmq option
Code:
  -zmqpubhashtxlock=<address>

      Enable publish hash transaction (locked via InstantSend) in <address>

  -zmqpubrawtxlock=<address>

      Enable publish raw transaction (locked via InstantSend) in <address>

With zmqpubrawtxlock, rawtx is emmited. So any trigger can be set.

ex) decode block and tx(codes copied from other source) https://github.com/chaeplin/dash-testnet/blob/master/testnet-decode.py

Yes, and zmq is what the POS terminal currently uses :)

Thank you for the info by the way, I'm not sure if I ever thanked you for that.
 
I'm not too familiar with PoS systems.

From what I understand, the merchant will set up a Dash wallet on his own desktop system and will acquire a dedicated PoS terminal that will run the client application set it up with the wallet's public key.

A few questions:
What hardware will the client run on? Will it target various widely available PoS terminals? What models, etc.
Considering this is a standalone system to be deployed in addition to merchant's existing setup, are there any provision to integrate into their processes, for example WRT accounting?
 
I'm not too familiar with PoS systems.

From what I understand, the merchant will set up a Dash wallet on his own desktop system and will acquire a dedicated PoS terminal that will run the client application set it up with the wallet's public key.

A few questions:
What hardware will the client run on? Will it target various widely available PoS terminals? What models, etc.
Considering this is a standalone system to be deployed in addition to merchant's existing setup, are there any provision to integrate into their processes, for example WRT accounting?

Pretty close! The merchant has 2 options :

-They can use the terminal's 'account generation' wizard to automatically generate the keys to an account
-They can import existing keys that have been generated elsewhere

The POS terminal only uses the extended public key (for HD address generation). The private key is never stored on the terminal. Also, you are correct in assuming it is a dedicated terminal.

Now, to answer your questions:

-The client will run on all standard mobile and desktop devices. So, any Android or apple phone. Or computer. There are also dedicated hardware terminals that we will make available for sale, similar to the one you see in original post's picture. We will have these for merchants that would like a more professional experience and don't mind buying the hardware. The fact that it will run on mobile and desktop platforms is to ease starting costs for merchants just casually accepting cryptos.

-To be honest, I'm not clear what WRT accounting is (if maybe you want to expand on that), but I'll tell you how this works.

Almost all POS software has fields to input what 'type' the payment is (customer paid with cash, credit card, check, gift certificate, other)

It's this other field that we will use.

When a merchant makes a sale with a credit card, they actually process the transaction on the credit card terminal. They input the amount paid by the customer into the 'credit card' input box in their POS only for accounting purposes, transaction history, etc.

There is an 'other' box that is cleverly programmed in, but rarely used. (can you think of what it would be used for?)

In our case, the merchant could put the Dash payment amounts into the 'other' box after processing the transaction on the terminal and then during accounting, they will know that these payments are Dash payments. The bonus is: now their Dash payments are treated with the same importance as other transactions in their current POS software. They get all the accounting, inventory management, etc. that comes with that.

This process is exactly the same steps as credit card processing is today.

Nice work on this proposal! I voted yes!

Thank you!!
 
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Nice!
I would suggest to feed rates from few sources, instead of coinmarketcap.com only, and then calculate an average of some sort (or give user a choice where to fetch from). Could calculate DASH/USD rate by fetching BTC/USD from some large btc exchange like Bitstamp and DASH/BTC from Poloniex for example, should be pretty simple afaik. For websocket "push" version you can grab some code for both exchanges there https://github.com/UdjinM6/bitlisten/blob/gh-pages/src/ratebox.js if you wish.
Also, make sure to make app description as neutral as possible when submitting to Apple appstore to avoid rejection/delisting :rolleyes:

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PS. finally someone is using that proposal template, that's kind of a xmas gift to @kot I guess :D

It might be good to include some sort of logic that blocks outlier prices from being included in any averages. About 6-8 months ago, somebody fat fingered on a China exchange and bought a some Dash for several hundred dollars apiece. That skewed the price on Coinmarketcap for a short time--making it look like the price was over $12 when on all other exchanges it was half that.
 
It might be good to include some sort of logic that blocks outlier prices from being included in any averages. About 6-8 months ago, somebody fat fingered on a China exchange and bought a some Dash for several hundred dollars apiece. That skewed the price on Coinmarketcap for a short time--making it look like the price was over $12 when on all other exchanges it was half that.

Yeah, we're juggling ideas on the most effective way to get price equivalents. Any ideas are appreciated!
 
I should have known. The OP has been in bed with the The King and The Pied Pipers for a while.

Not that it's a bad thing. Something that isn't obscene pork-barreling has finally been proposed! Woo hoo!

It still exposes just how corrupt this project is. Must be prescribed by the king and his men or forget it...

Was throwing a way a 2 year head start on DASH's own invention really worth it? Just to spite people of a political slant that you hate? This corruption and bratty attitude is exactly why grown-ups don't take cryptocurrency seriously...

I'm glad this is finally happening, but it's 2 years too late. The underlying toxicity, corruption, and immaturity of this project's leadership and community is still it's Achilles's Heel. Since this proposal is pre-ordained by the king and his pied pipers, there's no need to worry about support. No member of the community need vote, it'll be passed regardless. So, I get to continue my voting boycott without concern.

As bad as the process still smells, at least something worth a damn is finally getting done.
 
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I should have known. The OP has been in bed with the The King and The Pied Pipers for a while.

Not that it's a bad thing. Something that isn't obscene pork-barreling has finally been proposed! Woo hoo!

It still exposes just how corrupt this project is. Must be prescribed by the king and his men or forget it...
I'm not sure what you mean by this?

This project was born out of something that I wanted to see in the cryptocurrency landscape. I came to Dash to do this project, because it has the feature set that my vision requires (ie Instant transactions). I have had no contact with lead developers or core team members, except the aforementioned.

I reached out on Dash Nation slack (in general) about the project and nitya decided it was valid enough to work on this with me.
@moocowmoo is the github owner of the dashvend code (I had originally planned to fork dashvend) and an extremely helpful resource for me thus far.

The number of people I have conversed with in Dash community can probably be counted on 2 hands outside of the casual comment.

I'm glad this is finally happening, but it's 2 years too late. The underlying toxicity, corruption, and immaturity of this project's leadership and community is still it's Achilles's Heel. Since this proposal is pre-ordained by the king and his pied pipers, there's no need to worry about support. No member of the community need vote, it'll be passed regardless. So, I get to continue my voting boycott without concern.
Dude, I am so confused. I'm not sure why you think the proposal was "pre-ordained" by anyone. I have done nothing but answer questions and concerns here...

As bad as the process still smells, at least something worth a damn is finally getting done.
Well I'm glad you think the project is worthwhile?
 
I have the answers to most of the concerns regarding pricing and exchanges already worked out. Been sitting on it for almost 2 years due tot he snowflake arrogance of the leadership and community. @Solarminer and I had it ready to go and vendors already willing to participate. I even had a small convenience store/gas station chain on board. But after we pissed off the leadership by bringing the vending machine to last year's Miami conference, shit really hit the fan. Now look at what's on display... They even deleted the video less than 24 hours after uploading it, and the machine has disappeared and doesn't even work anymore... Not sure how they managed to fuck it up...

This poll has 17 upvotes and 3 maybes (I'm one of them). How many masternodes are there? They're not even smart enough to realize that this matters.

I already have the hardware and server needed for this proposal. That's 110 DASH that need not even be asked for. I have a bluetooth printer and an old Galaxy Mega 6.3 that I don't use anymore. A Trezor I'm not using (not that this is needed). I have plenty of free resources on my server. The remaining 55 DASH I could personally pay out of pocket without even noticing. Yet nobody sees fit to make sure it happens?

This is the most important thing DASH should have already been doing for the last two years, and you're willing to do it for a measly 165 DASH, and these jackasses can't even be bothered? This is exactly what drove off the business owners I worked so hard to line up. DASH is filled with people who are viciously opposed to successful business operation. No grown-up business owner wants to get in bed with people who hate business so much. Cryptotards are a bunch of lazy socialists who see the idea of crypto as a weapon they can use to destroy capitalism... It's effing bizarre, and there's no way businesses want to deal with that. DASH has willfully failed to capitalize on it's own invention, and even gone to the extent of sabotaging those who would have done it for them. I'm not sure there's a way to be more of a thing that no business could ever want... These people cut off their whole face to spite their nose, just because the guys leading the charge weren't special snowflakes. News Flash, nobody in the real, grow-up world of business is a special snowflake, has any respect for special snowflakes, or will enter into any sort of an agreement with a special snowflake. They're certainly not going to put their income stream in the hands of special snowflakes. @babygiraffe and @Minotaur did their best to sabotage the vending machine and what we wanted to build out of it last year, and did nothing but troll and misinform every day after. @eduffield mostly stood idly by and let them, but even he, eventually, got involved with the propaganda and misinformation campaign. All in the name of left-fringe hipster snowflake politics and making sure nobody got a piece of their precious piggy bank...

People willing to go so far into self-destruction just to stab the best allies they ever had in the back... DASH invented the concept of IX, and deliberately destroyed it's own opportunity just because "That guy isn't a Hillary supporter." This project is nothing but lucky that other cryptos have screwed up even worse. XVC was literally days away from making DASH permanently irrelevant before it's lead dev spazzed out. Now we have the usual fanboys trying to downplay lightning. MAID is doing so much more than simply IX... All because the brats hated the very thing that would make them succeed so much that they would throw themselves under the bus just to take me with them?

No doubt, there's some bad blood between me and this community. Feeeeeelings.... But when the wind blows, the trees bend. It's not about the feelings. It's about the facts behind them. The trolls think they're winning when they talk about "butthurt." It only shows how much more important damaging a non-snowflake is to them, over getting shit done and winning. They destroyed themselves, but think they're holding the trophy of "we fucked over @camosoul, lols!" Reality is that I'm even better off now. I was willing to make a sacrifice for this project, but went back to my primary business instead and made way more money. When you live in your mommy's basement and the only thing that makes you feel good is acting like this... It's like being given the finger by cockroaches. Their whole world is petty, so they have no idea what real things they've lost out on, and that the "damage" they think they've done was actually a godsend... It's not about "feelings." It's about how ridiculously out of touch these people are, and the messed up values they have, where a successful penetration into retail, and the visibility it would give DASH, is less important than spreading lies and hate about the guy who was set to do it for them just because he's not a batshit crazy left-fringe lunatic like they are... I've made more money since then than I made in my entire life up to that point. How could I possibly be butthurt? These people think trolling and swaying the popular opinion of the clueless is more valuable than actually accomplishing anything. Trolling from their mommies' basements is the only thing they've ever done that gave them a rush, so they don't know any better... They have no idea what the satisfaction of accomplishment is because they've never done it. they have no idea the monumental failure to capitalize that they represent, that any real, grown-up business person in the real world can see, because they trolled and loled and think that's all there is to life. Look at captain echo chamber trying to drag me into it over here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dashs-more-incredible-2016.12722/ Look at all the ugly directed at @Solarminer for nothing more than accurate observation... This loser called the answer he doesn't like an ":eek:ff topic rant" just to get the last word before having a mod lock the thread for him. It doesn't matter how or even if BTC solves the problem he's talking about. The entire premise of his question is flawed and I explained it int he very first sentence, just like the premise that throwing away a 2 year head start on your own idea is acceptable because "that guy disagrees with our totally unrelated political interests." The worst part, is that they know it, and don't care. They just want to look like the keyboard warrior that won some silly fight on the Internet... This is what they imagine to be the ultimate prize, because it's all they've ever known. Who wants to do business with that?

As a footnote, go check the timestamps in that other thread. Even as a keyboard warrior who thinks he's got it all figured out, he still walked right into it, and his chest is still puffed up because he has no idea I made lemonade out of his lemons by setting him up as the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about here... This is what DASH has become. I gave him the link and everything, and he still didn't read enough to realize I was setting him up... Doesn't matter! Echo Chamber! Marching orders! Why bother to look when you're not going to think about anything you might read anyway?

If you want/need these funds/resources, I'll be happy to give them to you, no strings attached if the suckernodes can't figure it out. Free stuff. But, I doubt it'll be needed since the King and his Pied Pipers (mentioned above) have deemed you "one of us, one of us..."

See that look on her face? Yeah. That's @camosoul and @Solarminer when we finally realized what was going on... Be careful getting in bed with these people. They're freaks.

I took DASH off my website. I was using @nmarley 's plugin. But, if you look at the thread where it was developed, you can see where he refused to make the changes needed to be used in the real world "this is good enough" when it most definitely is not good enough... They just don't get it. They want to cater to their own deluded special snowflake mentality, then wonder why the world doesn't want it... It completely borks the proper flow of an eCommerce transaction and simply insists that it isn't a problem. Didn't even use the "It's a feature, not a bug" excuse...
 
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Lols, he's puffing up his chest in other threads now (while accusing me of being the egotist), still hasn't read this to see what happened... I really didn't intend for it to be this embarrassing for him, but he's mirrored his own accusations perfectly...

Perfect representative of DASH...
 
So There is one thing i dont get you guys say decentrallised and stuff but just like todays democracy you dont force people to get involved projects need to go up they need to be evaluated not just polled on you cant have a company running without some form of communication and face with all involving parts and if idea's like this are dismissed then DASH will go nowhere i have hopes for crypto but at the same time everyone in this market seems to not want to work and expect that technicality is enought -.- and a girl on youtube you need to tackle hard and you need to explain to the user ME miner and MASTER NODES above all master nodes need to be very active people in order to make sure the ideas and listening equality in the community are achieved and people to spot important ideas or security issues that might appear for exmaple if you dont have experts helping this goes nowehere if you want a Network to achieve a community you need to teach the community to learn the obligations of maintaining a network and keeping the eyes open in order to maintain the network andthis pos if secured you could get merchants by the hundreds just set teams in every major city and impose it and the face i mean is an offcie a store where you tell the people the latest news and projects what the community is voting on etc... you need to bond with the public for any crypto to take flight i mean the people that usually leave home everyday do chores send money to family etc...
 
Get 1000 POS send 100 to 10 cities make a team of 2 or 4 and sell them in each city and sell the POS inform the public one thing I Hate about this is the conversations of the people that want to get involved but all they see is ranting in forums I think this needs to change to another way of talking like youtube livestream or smething we need faces we need proper ccomunication and people to keep an eye out for the community and I MEAN SEVERAL PEOPLE community will only work if the cmmunity itself is healthy
 
I have the answers to most of the concerns regarding pricing and exchanges already worked out. Been sitting on it for almost 2 years due tot he snowflake arrogance of the leadership and community. @Solarminer and I had it ready to go and vendors already willing to participate. I even had a small convenience store/gas station chain on board. But after we pissed off the leadership by bringing the vending machine to last year's Miami conference, shit really hit the fan. Now look at what's on display... They even deleted the video less than 24 hours after uploading it, and the machine has disappeared and doesn't even work anymore... Not sure how they managed to fuck it up...

This poll has 17 upvotes and 3 maybes (I'm one of them). How many masternodes are there? They're not even smart enough to realize that this matters.

I already have the hardware and server needed for this proposal. That's 110 DASH that need not even be asked for. I have a bluetooth printer and an old Galaxy Mega 6.3 that I don't use anymore. A Trezor I'm not using (not that this is needed). I have plenty of free resources on my server. The remaining 55 DASH I could personally pay out of pocket without even noticing. Yet nobody sees fit to make sure it happens?

This is the most important thing DASH should have already been doing for the last two years, and you're willing to do it for a measly 165 DASH, and these jackasses can't even be bothered? This is exactly what drove off the business owners I worked so hard to line up. DASH is filled with people who are viciously opposed to successful business operation. No grown-up business owner wants to get in bed with people who hate business so much. Cryptotards are a bunch of lazy socialists who see the idea of crypto as a weapon they can use to destroy capitalism... It's effing bizarre, and there's no way businesses want to deal with that. DASH has willfully failed to capitalize on it's own invention, and even gone to the extent of sabotaging those who would have done it for them. I'm not sure there's a way to be more of a thing that no business could ever want... These people cut off their whole face to spite their nose, just because the guys leading the charge weren't special snowflakes. News Flash, nobody in the real, grow-up world of business is a special snowflake, has any respect for special snowflakes, or will enter into any sort of an agreement with a special snowflake. They're certainly not going to put their income stream in the hands of special snowflakes. @babygiraffe and @Minotaur did their best to sabotage the vending machine and what we wanted to build out of it last year, and did nothing but troll and misinform every day after. @eduffield mostly stood idly by and let them, but even he, eventually, got involved with the propaganda and misinformation campaign. All in the name of left-fringe hipster snowflake politics and making sure nobody got a piece of their precious piggy bank...

People willing to go so far into self-destruction just to stab the best allies they ever had in the back... DASH invented the concept of IX, and deliberately destroyed it's own opportunity just because "That guy isn't a Hillary supporter." This project is nothing but lucky that other cryptos have screwed up even worse. XVC was literally days away from making DASH permanently irrelevant before it's lead dev spazzed out. Now we have the usual fanboys trying to downplay lightning. MAID is doing so much more than simply IX... All because the brats hated the very thing that would make them succeed so much that they would throw themselves under the bus just to take me with them?

No doubt, there's some bad blood between me and this community. Feeeeeelings.... But when the wind blows, the trees bend. It's not about the feelings. It's about the facts behind them. The trolls think they're winning when they talk about "butthurt." It only shows how much more important damaging a non-snowflake is to them, over getting shit done and winning. They destroyed themselves, but think they're holding the trophy of "we fucked over @camosoul, lols!" Reality is that I'm even better off now. I was willing to make a sacrifice for this project, but went back to my primary business instead and made way more money. When you live in your mommy's basement and the only thing that makes you feel good is acting like this... It's like being given the finger by cockroaches. Their whole world is petty, so they have no idea what real things they've lost out on, and that the "damage" they think they've done was actually a godsend... It's not about "feelings." It's about how ridiculously out of touch these people are, and the messed up values they have, where a successful penetration into retail, and the visibility it would give DASH, is less important than spreading lies and hate about the guy who was set to do it for them just because he's not a batshit crazy left-fringe lunatic like they are... I've made more money since then than I made in my entire life up to that point. How could I possibly be butthurt? These people think trolling and swaying the popular opinion of the clueless is more valuable than actually accomplishing anything. Trolling from their mommies' basements is the only thing they've ever done that gave them a rush, so they don't know any better... They have no idea what the satisfaction of accomplishment is because they've never done it. they have no idea the monumental failure to capitalize that they represent, that any real, grown-up business person in the real world can see, because they trolled and loled and think that's all there is to life. Look at captain echo chamber trying to drag me into it over here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dashs-more-incredible-2016.12722/ Look at all the ugly directed at @Solarminer for nothing more than accurate observation... This loser called the answer he doesn't like an ":eek:ff topic rant" just to get the last word before having a mod lock the thread for him. It doesn't matter how or even if BTC solves the problem he's talking about. The entire premise of his question is flawed and I explained it int he very first sentence, just like the premise that throwing away a 2 year head start on your own idea is acceptable because "that guy disagrees with our totally unrelated political interests." The worst part, is that they know it, and don't care. They just want to look like the keyboard warrior that won some silly fight on the Internet... This is what they imagine to be the ultimate prize, because it's all they've ever known. Who wants to do business with that?

As a footnote, go check the timestamps in that other thread. Even as a keyboard warrior who thinks he's got it all figured out, he still walked right into it, and his chest is still puffed up because he has no idea I made lemonade out of his lemons by setting him up as the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about here... This is what DASH has become. I gave him the link and everything, and he still didn't read enough to realize I was setting him up... Doesn't matter! Echo Chamber! Marching orders! Why bother to look when you're not going to think about anything you might read anyway?

If you want/need these funds/resources, I'll be happy to give them to you, no strings attached if the suckernodes can't figure it out. Free stuff. But, I doubt it'll be needed since the King and his Pied Pipers (mentioned above) have deemed you "one of us, one of us..."

See that look on her face? Yeah. That's @camosoul and @Solarminer when we finally realized what was going on... Be careful getting in bed with these people. They're freaks.

I took DASH off my website. I was using @nmarley 's plugin. But, if you look at the thread where it was developed, you can see where he refused to make the changes needed to be used in the real world "this is good enough" when it most definitely is not good enough... They just don't get it. They want to cater to their own deluded special snowflake mentality, then wonder why the world doesn't want it... It completely borks the proper flow of an eCommerce transaction and simply insists that it isn't a problem. Didn't even use the "It's a feature, not a bug" excuse...

No fewer than 9 snowflake mentions in one rant... That's gotta be a new record or something!

Here's the wiki definition:

"Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a term used to characterise young adults of the 2010s as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own. It is considered derogatory."

Oh the irony... "prone to taking offence", "too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own" - Look for @camosoul in the dictionary and there's your definition :)

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