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Pre-Proposal: Create the first DASH gateway on Ripple

Discussion in 'Pre + Budget Proposal Discussions' started by ggololicic, May 3, 2017.

  1. solarguy

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    Note that the other proposal (which I also support) produces a piece of open source software that would allow anybody that is motivated to set up a Ripple/Dash gateway. It does not necessarily end up with a fully functional gateway, that's outside the proposal.

    This proposal (although private/closed source) does result in an actual functional gateway--that's the whole point.
     
  2. SimontheRavager

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    yeah and we can contain this centralized bank coin a little bit hahaha
     
  3. dashdisciple

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    Voted yes. This is the type of integration we need to keep banging out. 100,000 gatehub users, $2M/day in existing volume.. It's not just about the dev work on this one.

    The guy is going to hopefully make some money off us, but that's the point. Go capitalism.
     
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  4. dashdisciple

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    130,000 Gatehub users now. How could anybody in their right mind hesitate on this proposal yet vote for circuses and airshows?

    Integrations like this is where the money is at. Dash doesn't even need to hunt the deal - it's being offered up as a prize.
     
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  6. akhavr

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    I've personally votes yes for this proposal. I would like to see it done, since we have the funds in the Treasury anyway.
     
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    How do we get this thing across the line?
    * It's a quality proposal with achievable scope
    * Dash needs trading integrations that incorporate fiat crosses
    * It complements the open source proposal
    * Seems like there's room in the budget for it
     
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  8. solarguy

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    Agreed.

    Perhaps if ten masternodes who support this would ask again, on all the forums (reddit dashpay, the Dashnation slack (sub-channel proposals) and DashCentral) that would be enough. I'll go do my part.

    My reasons as to why this is valuable and worthwhile:

    1. It adds substantial tools/capabilities to trade back and forth easily and painlessly between various currencies. That's what Ripple does. It's like the Babel fish if you're a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fan. Or, it's like Star Treks Universal Translator.

    2. The cost is very reasonable to get this done considering the man hours it will take.

    3. These are the people who know Ripple frontwards and backwards, and the logical choice for who to get this done in a timely and effective manor.

    4. Ripple is going places. A strategic partnership between Ripple and Dash will accomplish far more together than separately.

    https://ripple.com/insights/forty-seven-japanese-banks-move-towards-commercial-phase-using-ripple/
    http://www.the-blockchain.com/2017/04/28/ten-banks-join-ripples-global-payments-network/

    5. Some are concerned that we are paying money to a for-profit company. If it's profitable, they should just pay for it themselves. While I understand this point of view, and this point of view is not wrong, I view it very differently. You know how cool it is to buy premium tickets to get front row seats, and then you ALSO get passes to go backstage and meet the rock stars?

    That's what we're paying for, premium express service. We, as a community, need to get used to the idea that we are rich. There's nothing wrong with being rich. Get used to it. Act like it. Embrace it. Raise your hand if you want to go to the front of line, instead of the back of the line!

    6. Some are concerned that the end product is not an open source software product, and there is another proposal that does the "same thing" by a community member and results in an open source software deliverable. Evan even said so.

    Yes, this is true. And yet, begging to differ with Evan. These two proposals do not do the same thing. These are complementary projects, and even the other open source proposal owner Akhavr wants both to happen.

    This project will result in a functional gateway with support. Akhavr's project will result in software that anybody can use to open a gateway, but how many people will actually do that? And provide support? I don't know. How many Linux users are there? How many Microsoft users are there? Isn't it great that WE COULD HAVE BOTH!

    What expands the Dash universe the fastest? Do both.
     
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  9. jimbit

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    The more exposure and gateways the better.. my votes are yes
     
  10. GrandMasterDash

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    I won't disagree with your analysis, but my only question is, why it can't be open source?
     
  11. solarguy

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    Their house, their rules. I get and approve of, the benefits of open source projects. But, I also get, and approve of proprietary for-profit ventures. In an open, robust competitive ecosystem, both products can do great things and complement each other. For example, Linux does what it does very very well. And, Microsoft and Apple (love them or hate them) have been pretty successful at the private, proprietary for-profit angle. Linux makes Microsoft and Apple better and more competitive. Apple and Microsoft make Linux better.

    Would the world be better off with just Apple? Or just Linux?
     
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  12. GrandMasterDash

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    Imo, the world would be a much better place if EVERYTHING was open source. I haven't used MS for many many years and the recent WannaCry virus just re-enforces everything I came to hate about them.

    Anyway, I don't discount your other points.

    Perhaps the OP would like to comment about their choice of closed source.
     
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    Breaking news from the proposal owner, and I quote,

    "We decided to open source part of the solution since it was so much wanted from the community. If the proposal wont get accepted we would very likely not implement DASH. I hope you see the value and reach we can have with this project."


    Apparently, this honest to God open democracy thing works.
     
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  14. GrandMasterDash

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    And that most definitely gets my vote! Well done. I just hope we can get the remaining votes in time.
     
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    @ggololicic Hey, how are things going. Do you have an update for us?
     
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  17. ggololicic

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    Hey I apologize for the missing updates. I will update you more often on the project status in the future. Currently we still have some development and testing to do in order to publish this to production. We experienced some delays due to other projects in the pipeline. I can say with certain confidence that Dash will be live on GateHub by the end of August or sooner.
     
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  18. TonyG

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    i love ripple technology and believe in its future. I have doubts about ripple as a payment method. It's hard to justify its valuation.

    Still great for dash to have this deal done.
     
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    Speed is important. The whole industry is in a race to be the first to get widespread recognition. Being first is everything.
     
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  20. dashdisciple

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    The end of August has come. Going live today?
     
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  21. ggololicic

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    Yes we are ready to go live. DASH integration is complete and tested and we will release it in the following week, now there is just the PR work left to do.
     
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  22. dashdisciple

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    @ggololicic ?
     
  23. ggololicic

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    Like said everything is ready from technology part, but some other important event came before and we need to make a PR and schedule this after. Should be soon out within days now. I am sorry for the delays but the technology is ready for already 3 weeks now. ASAP
     
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    Looks like go live already.
     
  25. GrandMasterDash

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    Are you sure? - I didn't see dash on there
     
  26. dashdisciple

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    I don't see anything there, either.

    So much for deadlines/accountability.
     
  27. GrandMasterDash

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    Yes. It would be nice if the proposal system had an exit vote to pay 20% for proposals finished on time.
     
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  28. demo

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    Dont disorientate the people. Coĺlecting likes here, where at the same time an alternative idea in another place also collects likes, this does not help governance at all. Because there is not a link between the alternative ideas , neither we can compare them in order to decide which idea is the dominant one.

    You made a comment here, but also please point to the official poll ( which decides about this subject). If you dont do that then you destroy the organization needed for the governence to work and you spread chaos and confusion.
    There should be only one place where the decision is made and this place should be the one and only permanent poll which deals with this specific subject. In the absense of an official poll, let us name the first poll that appeared as the official one .
    Furthermore, whatever new poll is created that deals with the same subject, the second poll should be merged to the first one so that there is always a single active poll that deals with the subject.
    This is how governance works. If you insist of spreading the same info to separate places then people cannot gather all together in a single place, and thus cannot take a community decision..
     
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  29. joemoraca

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    Well it seems you can trade Dash on Gatehub now. I had created an account when I first reviewed this project and was able to add Dash today.

    gatehub-dash.png
     
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  30. GrandMasterDash

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    They are British based but don't process GBP?
     
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