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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by acidburn, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. lynx

    lynx Active Member

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    I want something that can't be shut down, that government never gets a hold of who is betting, and that people can bet on more exciting stuff like soccer and horses. Billions of dollars in bets flowing through Dash.
     
  2. Solarminer

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    That is more involved. I don't know much about how Etherium contracts work, but I think that is what you want to use. I don't think you need masternodes to do this. Of course settle in Dash so it is instant. Maybe create a thread with a good title and others can provide better advice.
     
  3. InTheWoods

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    You make a great point, echoing some of my thoughts to some extent. Yes, Dash should focus on the actual Dash development. Normally 3rd parties should handle adoption or even facilitating adoption. In Bitcoin, for example, you have Bitpay or Coinbase facilitating merchant adoption not the Bitcoin foundation or the bitcoin devs. Doesn't mean we should copy Bitcoin but that's a free market organic growth model, otherwise we'd shift this project towards central planning.

    Now, in the case of the soda machine, that was a showcase of what the technology could do, it featured the tech to lots of influential people in this space. It wasn't your usual 200 people but influential people in this space, including VCs and a few articles that resulted from that, increasing visibility of the project. Think of how Nvidia is making demo graphic cards and gives them to companies as a reference model, without actually being in the business of making video cards. Demos are important to showcase the technology.

    Now I guess we can cross that line without even knowing and it's probably not the best way to be headed.
     
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  4. hiddendark

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    I'd like to see integration with self service POS systems in supermarkets and bulk retail. At least where I live the machines have about 20 options when you get to the payment step, and it would be relatively easy to add in Dash through a software update. Nearly costless to the retailer.

    Unfortunately I think it might be a hard sell for dash right now (but a real coup if we could make it happen). Bitcoin might be able to get some traction with it.
     
  5. SnowHater

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    Maybe IX could be used for serving microtransactions in p2p Reddit-like sites (i.e. 1 upvote = 0,0001 DASH). I don't know any of them working right now though (DATT - 'decentralized all the things' isn't). I've found very interesting platform for such p2p services called ZeroNet. (http://bit.no.com:43110/1EU1tbG9oC1A8jz2ouVwGZyQ5asrNsE4Vr). Try to go to sites ZeroTalk, ZeroTorrent, Taxi Drift, ZeroBlog and many others, it is very funny.

    I've created my own p2p site in that network (without servers ans domain reg): http://bit.no.com:43110/1G9s2eptrshvMmXaR1egEnGcbL9WdeQFAa
     
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  6. acidburn

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    Cam proposal was for this... but the community doesn't want it...
     
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  7. InTheWoods

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    That's not true actually. The community wants it just that in a different format.
     
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  8. BolehVPN

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    I don't quite see what's the issue with finding out ways to use IX in real world. IX in itself is to make instant transfers just like real cash.

    So yes, POS systems, wallets, etc etc all just need to integrate IX.

    A nice first step is to get exchanges to support IX (Poloniex for e.g.) and to offer help to these exchanges to implement them. That way cryptocurrency guys will be demonstrated in very real ways the benefits of IX whenever they trade coins.
     
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  9. hiddendark

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    It's not quite the same as his proposal. This would simply require working closely with large POS companies to add some extra software to their machines. Not technically complicated and no extra hardware involved. It would also need a backend to convert Dash to the local currency (In the long run I'd prefer it not be converted, but it will be hard to gain traction in the short run without it).

    I also don't think it's quite correct to say that the community doesn't want the proposal. There were just a few issues raised with regards to amounts, timeframes, and vagueness of the proposal (not making a call here on whether those were/are valid). Cam quickly got quite defensive, and it was al downhill from there. I think the general idea is still solid, and would be supported by the community under the right conditions.
     
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  10. f2000

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    I've posted about this before, but nobody replied/quoted it...perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree here. I'm guessing both are huge jobs and would require a large percentage of the proposal funds (plus working out how to stop users gaming the system)

    I would like to say first I’m not a developer so I might be underestimating some of this…or even getting it completely wrong (so excuse my naivety). I would love to see things that would drive normal people and not just nerds to use Dash.

    OpenBazaar
    Yeah, I don't really need to go over this one again, I'm sure everybody knows/wants this to happen

    1) If it was forked, could it run on the MN network?
    I’m guessing this would be a big job, then trying to keep up with the constant updates etc. If this was to happen I would suggest using both Dash and Bitcoin (instead of forcing Dash onto users, let them see the benefits first hand). Some people might not want to use Dash and that’s ok, no need to exclude anybody.

    2) Getting Dash implemented by the OB devs
    Again, I’m not sure how we would go about this, would monthly donations from the Budget proposal be enough?

    Social Media
    Originally I mentioned:
    WeCollective (Decentralised Reddit/Forum)
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wecollective/we-collective-the-next-step-in-the-evolution-of-so

    But recently the following are out and might be a better product:
    http://www.synereo.com/
    https://diasporafoundation.org/

    We have miners earning dash as do people running MN's, it would be nice for the "Regular Joe's" of the world to earn Dash via selling things on OB or contributing to the Decentralised reddit/forum/WeCollective.
     
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  11. Solarminer

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    Right now there is a fee for InstantX = .01. It doesn't make sense to use it for microtransactions. And tips and things the don't have an immediate delivery of product don't need InstantX. Standard transactions have a lower fee and would work better for microtransactions.
     
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  12. Solarminer

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    I would like this too. We outlined a strategy we thought would make this happen. The voters said it wasn't a good fit.

    The dash wallets and software are not ready for a simple plug and play integration. Part of the project we put together would fund the developers and software engineers on the dash side and the retail side to make this happen along with finishing the mobile wallet IX. The latest core plan will be finishing the mobile wallet IX receive code along with including mixing.

    I am also working on the wifi portal. This will completely skip the self service POS systems....stay tuned.
     
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