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Discussion in 'Pre + Budget Proposal Discussions' started by DavidHay, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. demo

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    Yet 45000 people managed to subscribe to getfreedash without any education!
    I dont think the classroom's main purpose should be the education purpose.
    Its main purpose should be to implement a proof of individuality.

     
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    Of course Getfreedash is a huge success. I would like to use his platform to distribute the crypto currency if we can make some small changes and he is willing to work with me. It also on-boards the most technical users and gives money across the whole country without focusing in one geographic area.

    Shout out to @Dashmaximalist for all his incredible work.
     
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    Hello David
    I have to correct you. You have misquoted me David with your quote below. For the record: I do not think this project is a good use of funds and I think it will do more harm than good I also did not state anywhere that I agree with your project infact quite the opposite.

    From my past posts in this forum you will see how I came to these conclusions. This is a misquote from David Hay and I object to being quoted as "agreeing" because I do not agree with this project.

    I recommend other people read my in-depth posts fully in this forum. These are my concerns:

    1. The project is not sustainable and therefore lower value than sustainable DASH projects. The Venezuela refugees visiting Cucuta have no resources to sustain the project - unlike many other DASH Venezuela proposals that can sustain themselves e.g. DASH HELP VENEZUELA project can sustain itself after the initial investment and is therefore much better investment than this type of project.

    2. There is no currency crisis in Cucuta, Colombia. This project is not on Venezuelan soil - Columbia does not have a currency crisis like Venezuela. This again is a huge negative for this project. So we would give DASH money in a different country that does not have a currency crisis and then expect that the town is going to convert to DASH because 300,000 people have been trained on it? That does not make sense. People are going to continue to use their own currency and just hold the DASH as an investment at best because they have no need to do exchanges with DASH. They have their own functional currency. The place to do any projects for DASH adoption are ON VENEZUELA SOIL where there IS a currency crisis.

    3. The project is not well thought out and doubts I have raised have not been addressed logically. There are emotion based responses in this project under the banner of "we need to do something for these people". I agree we need to do something but we need to do something that is actually going to have some long term good. Not a one hit wonder. David Hay himself stated he did not claim the project would be sustainable.

    Do you not think that a sustainable project that generate wealth continuously after the initially funding is better use of funds? This is not even a humanitarian project because there is not enough money that is going to lead to lasting change. Once the Venezuela starts to generate her own wealth then they will have the money to do humanitarian projects that have lasting effects.

    4. This project is likely to do damage to other DASH projects because $2,000,000 of funding is a huge amount of money that can be used to create sustainable projects that will bring lasting value and much greater ROI for Venezuela. The DASH treasury fund has limited funds if this project goes through other projects will be excluded as has happened on the last funding cycle. We have to ensure projects of this size are going to have the intended affects.

    5. Where is the tech support going to come from on this project? It has been shown on the DASH conferences that large numbers of people had tech support questions. These were dealt with by DASH HELP Venezuela team. The team did a survey and found that 92% of people attending the conferences had additional questions and issues. That is on a conference of only 800 people. You are looking at a project of 300,000 people. Without these tech support questions being answered the training is of limited value. If you expect DASH HELP Venezuela to move to Cucate on this job then you are then taking away that resource from Caracas that needs that project support there. So who is going to do the Tech support on 300,000 people?

    6. This project is very likely exacerbate the problem in Cututa because it will act as an incentive to attract many more refugees to Cucuta region. The town is already in a desperate situation with too many refugees. Now we are providing a financial incentive for people to visit that region even more? This does not make any sense to me.

    7. David Hay says there will be massive publicity generated - he quotes his own channel with so far 50K views on his videos on the Venezuela project. That is not massive publicity. Even if the world media gets on board with this what happens if the project falls flat - like I believe it is going to do based on the deductions stated above? What type of publicity is that going to have on the World media for DASH.

    It is clear that people are reacting emotionally and not thinking logically on this project. The help is not even going to give help to these people over a sustained period of time.

    Think about this for yourself you are hungry and you have your family and kids in Cucate - outside of your own country. You get your DASH what is the first thing you're going to do with it? You spend it on a meal for you family. Since it is Columbia and not Venezuela you will probably get one meal possibly two. Then no more DASH. Then what? So what are you going to do now? You know how to use DASH but you have no DASH. So what are you going to do ?

    Where is the long term value in giving people a meal or two? Wouldn't you rather want to be able to give them meals every day of their lives by helping Venezuela generate its own sustainable revenue and wealth? This is very short term thinking. We need to think longer term to solve this issue. 2 meals is not going to make a difference in the long term.

    This project is poorly thought out and is very likely to cause a more damage than good for the reasons stated above. I would have to say I am voting Definite NO on this project unless someone can actually addresses the concerns I've raised on this project.
     
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    The idea of getting the airdropped Dash to circulate once to the merchants is on the table. Why don't we try and now think about how the Dash can circulate further once the merchants have it? By doing research ahead of time, we can find out not only what merchants the migrants are doing business with, we can find out what merchants the merchants are doing business with.

    With this information, perhaps we incorporate something into the design of the system that keeps the Dash circulating. One thing Colombian businesspeople love is to avoid taxes. They have developed a lot of tricks for doing that. This could be a new one. If they could actually buy whole shipments of stock for their stores off the books (because the Colombian government is Orwellian in its controlling of who buys what - they even expect you to give your national ID number as a consumer when buying retail at malls), a lot of them would be quite pleased.

    - Merchants are also consumers, so with wide merchant adoption, we've got our first step.
    - Merchants deal with bigger merchants. So we just repeat what we did with the migrants and find out who the merchants buy from.
    - Merchants are business-minded. We can bring them masternode investment opportunities. Maybe we can even get them to form their own masternode association: The Colombian Merchant Dash Masternode Association. You get the idea.

    I'm sure we can come up with more ideas. This is a relatively simple exercise conceptually. You just find out where people are spending their money and you go and get those places to accept Dash too, ad infinitum. It's a lot of legwork and talking. There's a lot of skepticism, especially here. But I don't think we need to invent a new algorithm to figure it out.
     
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    I agree with DeepBlue's assessment of the situation; I would also vote no as it is currently conceived. Further, getfreedash has this covered as far as I'm concerned, at a very low cost and with good data.

    However, I am interested in the possibilities awaiting in Medellin. There is a great opportunity to educate the tech-ready Colombians, as well as the relatively comfortable Venezuelans residing there. The Venezuelans in Medellin are no doubt remitting money back to Venezuela. If we can educate both sides of this equation, it will pump crypto into Venezuela in a way nothing else can.

    Maybe we urge DashMaximalist to address Colombia next, *after gaining experience and achieving success in Venezuela*. Getfreedash is very cost-effective, and if we can get Colombia on Dash it will only strengthen it's use in Venezuela.
     
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    Deepblue and I are repeating ourselves without adding anything new to the conversation.

    1. The project is not sustainable and therefore lower value than sustainable DASH projects.
    What in crypto is sustainable? The valuations are based on future potential and growth. Dash Help Venezuela is sustainable at the moment because of Venezeula's huge inflation (which is also completely unsustainable)
    https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/pre-proposal-dash-help-venezuela-customer-support-center.24750/
    They have 10 staff many with degrees in engineering getting paid on average $400 per month.

    Run this same office in another country like the US and watch the costs sky rocket.

    My family still living in Venezuela expects things are going to get worse. The next set of elections will be rigged like the last, oil production will continue to fall and at the moment 57% of people living in the country want to leave. Deepblue how is this sustainable?

    2. There is no currency crisis in Cucuta, Colombia. This project is not on Venezuelan soil - Columbia does not have a currency crisis like Venezuela.

    Things are much better in Colombia but still not perfect
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=COP&view=5Y

    The purchasing power of the US dollar vs Colombian peso has increase 80% over the last 5 years. That's an average of 16% per year.

    Venezuelan citizens have been robbed by their government and are moving to a new country. That is a very compelling reasons to use crypto over fiat.

    3. The project is not well thought out and doubts I have raised have not been addressed logically.

    This idea is two weeks old. This is a pre-proposal, we are developing our business plan, talking to potential partners and accessing the situation on the ground. The videos I've made in the last two weeks have over 50,000 views there's a team of volunteers working on discord https://discord.gg/SrZmpPM

    4. This project is likely to do damage to other DASH projects

    Yes you bring up a valid point here. Dash is a democracy, I'll reach out to the community members and see if they feel the same way.

    5. Where is the tech support going to come from on this project?

    Our classroom, we will have a physical office in Cucuta with staff and volunteers.

    First you claim these people are going to immediately spend all their Dash and never use it again. Now you bring up tech support and say our office in Colombia will strain the resources in Venezuela? I want to make sure I understand this correctly. Someone visits our office in Cucuta, takes a class, talks to the volunteers there and when they have a problem instead of going to the office they find without any help from us the number for the help desk in Venezuela and start flooding it.

    6. This project is very likely exacerbate the problem in Cututa because it will act as an incentive to attract many more refugees to Cucuta region.
    Ok so injecting money into a struggling economy will only make things worse.

    7. David Hay says there will be massive publicity generated - he quotes his own channel with so far 50K views on his videos on the Venezuela project.

    Deepblue stated in a previous post he has 3 university degrees BSc Hons, MSc (Masters) and a Ph.D , 25 years worth of business experience and built websites with over 100,000,000 unique visitors. He should be doing the marketing for Dash not me.

    He mocks the 50k views I have generated in the last 2 weeks. If I can generate these results in two weeks with no budget this is obviously going to grow into something much larger.

    I don't understand how he can be so critical when Dash has such a small presence on youtube. Amanada Johnson makes great content but her best video got 77k views and most get under 10k.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAzD2v9Yx4a4iS2_-unODkA/videos

    I'm not here to beg the dash community for money. I'm developing a business plan, building a team of volunteers and creating a blue print for how to on-board people in one geographic area so crypto can reach a tipping point.

    If people share my vision I'm happy to work with them. If they don't we'll have to agree to disagree.















     
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    Hello David
    I again need to correct you because you have stating something about me that is again not correct.

    I am most definitely not "mocking" you David. I am stating facts. How is that mocking you? If it came across as mocking then I´m genuinely sorry you´ve chosen to take it that way. The fact is your Venezuela based videos, which is what we are discussing have 50K views. I want to make sure that people assessing this project fully understand it is not 6.5 million views on Venezuela. The 6.5 million views is for all your videos on your entire channel with many different subjects.

    I quoted my experience because you stated I was only giving just "opinions" and "none" of what I said was based on facts.

    I disagreed with your point of view and I had to quote my experience in order to validate that statement. I´m not stating that to impress anyone. I´m stating it to impress upon you that I know what I am talking about. There is a big difference between the two.

    You have also misquoted me several times which I have raised objections to. This is to ensure people do not misunderstand what I have stated.

    I have openly stated I can see you have good intentions and your heart is in the right place.

    Please do not take offense at my feedback. I hope you will look at my feedback as constructive criticism, and I sincerely apologize if I have inadvertently caused you any upset. I assure you that was not my intention. I just want us to get to the truth about this project so that people can fairly assess it.

    DeepBlue
     
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    @DavidHay Green Candle would be happy to help with your project, please contact us at [email protected] at your convenience.
     
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    Additionaly, another buisness plan could be to build a brand new cryptocurrency network for the venezuela merchants, totally independent from dash or any other already established cryptocurrency, where each merchant will become a masternode owner.

    I am a proponent of this solution, because this solution is based on pure faith and it is totally independent from fiat money (independant also from any crypto that depends on fiat money and refers to fiat money).

    But who is capable to inspire that kind faith to the people of venezuela? You need a new satoshi there.

     
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    No offense intended but I just question the utility of distributing 50 cents via SMS confirmations. Two concerns come to mind:

    - I'm not sure what anyone is going to do with 50 cents other than to verify that Dash works as promised, i.e. as a novelty. That is valuable, but what's the next step?
    - In the developing world it is very believable that someone is going to get paid off who can intercept SMS verifications to thousands of phone numbers at the cell phone company and rip the Dash distribution system off, potentially in a massive way. If there are manual controls in place to prevent that, that suggests that this is not a sustainable system for airdrops, i.e. it has low throughput.

    David has a solid idea here. Does his plan produce more questions than answers? Oh, yes! Should it be framed as a small trial of maybe USD$50,000 first? Of course! Should this plan have been presented as a pre-proposal? No way! I told him so myself privately before he posted it. There is so much more development that needs to be done first. IMHO, jumping the gun has actually set things back.

    But his idea actually includes a level of verification that is stronger than getfreedash's, as awesome as getfreedash is. Take that for what it's worth.

    David's idea is going to happen one way or another. It is simply too seductive, and we can not wait around for mass adoption to come to us. That's just not how it works.

    I am really thrilled to have discovered the details behind Dash. I've been active in the libertarian anarchist community since 2008. People mentioned Dash to me but I always came away with the impression that it was generic digital cash. Sorry, that is the branding and the impression I came away with. You can tell me that I should have looked more closely and done more research, but the responsibility of clear communication falls with us, if we want Dash to benefit from wider adoption. Which I do. I am really excited about Dash now.

    I see a lot of conservatism in these comments. I like that but I also encourage folks to be open to new ideas and willing to try new things. Saying no is the easiest answer.
     
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    David you got my support as long you start off small and show to us that this can actually , risking 2 million on this is not worth for us.

    Here's my suggestion , pool some capital like say $10,000 or so show us on ground how things work, then you have lot more credibility than mere words.

    I dont agree lot of what Deep blue said , about mass migration to cucuta because of these $4 giveaway thats just not possible.

    To be clear people in venezuela have a high standard of living owing to massive subsides , they just dont have money or jobs because of all the crap thats going around.

    living in Venezuela and mining crypto can make you lot more than $4 in a day , so rest assured no one will go there just to claim the free dash.
     
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    Good point about Telephone operators cheating the system , we have various checks to prevent that , we ask people for their selfie for this reason and also check cookies and ip addresss , now all this can be subverted too :) , so the plan is to stop at million users or so when the authorities really get curious about Getfreedash , i hope this changes your mind about getfreedash.

    Alternatively in other counries like say India etc , we can legally sue telecoms if we suspect of fraud ( the telecoms are worth 10s of billlions they dont care of chump change we are giving )
     
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    Exactly. The high level of user verification is what makes @DavidHay's idea worthwhile. It may become the first REAL cryptocurrency economy, and this is a big difference because all the rest cryptocurrency economies are virtual ones.
     
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    I wait to see how this develops, but for now my interest in this proposal is waning a little. I understand the direct let's-just-do-it approach, but I feel David is so intent on doing things his way, he may not be listening to all that is being said here. This reminds me why he initially overlooked dash, assuming centralization etc, he just wasn't paying enough attention.

    The fact is, dash already has some very good initiatives working on Venezuela. I feel David would be wise to listen and learn from their experience. Some people here, for example, are suggesting he start small, yet it seems he's hell bent on going all guns blazing. But anyway, let's see what he comes back with.

    The only other thing I take issue with was his statement, "In the future Dash will face stronger competition from platforms that have no transaction fees". I disagree with this. Low fees, yes, but there's no free lunch. Dash, for example, is working on mechanisms where the merchant can pay fees. But I digress.
     
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    One problem I see is that Dash is a deflationary asset. So ostensibly, that means it will go out of circulation pretty damn fast in an inflationary environment if it's just dropped raw as "helicopter capital".

    Money will gravitate from desperate hands to not so desperate hands to comfortable hands (where it will be held). That's just the path of least resistance for deflationary assets (and why the bulk of the world's gold supplies sits in vaults gathering dust).

    What's needed is possibly a more sophisticated multi-tiered solution where the crypto is used strategically rather than operationally. That means, say deploying it as a capital base for decentralised local credit unions as the "Proof of Labour" proposal was suggesting a couple of years ago. The difference between such a system and simply "dropping money on people" is that it gives local communities the ability to create their own liquidity. That's really what sustains an economy because it means that as soon as anyone does any work or provides any service, there's MORE liquidity around, not less and that's how they start getting prosperity back.

    The Julio Moros proposal made this model work by combining the deflationary properties of crypto with a form of circulating liquidity that was labour/service based, so the issue of liquidity starvation due to hoarding doesn't arise. (i.e. the "circulation" priorities that demanded an inflationary aspect and the "store of value" priorities that demanded a deflationary aspect of the liquidity base were decoupled in a complimentary way).
     
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    Hello David! Greetings from Caracas, Venezuela. I like your enthusiasm for helping people in Venezuela's border with Cucuta. Like you said, people and mostly immigrants passing through that specific border are suffering hunger, exclusion and poverty.

    However, in my opinion (more guided to the execution of the project and its possibilities of a great success) as a sociologist (I've been in a lot of slums studying the reality of people from Caracas in the poorest zones) is that you have to experience the daily live of the border to really understand what is going on there. I mean, mobile signal and internet mostly don't get there; there is a lot of insecurity (delinquency, violence and corruption); etc, etc...

    So, I think you made and excellent research, but I really suggest you to evaluate the possibilities of visiting the zone with someone who is familiar with it and later establish the things you need to accomplish your proposal. I know it's a bit difficult to do, but it'll be a great opportunnity to learn more about the reality of our borders.

    In other sense, I have the same concern of Stealth93 about the fact that if you reward people with DASH as they go to a-one-hour class, the possibilities of them exchanging those DASH for Dollars or another currency are very high because they're literally starving and in need.

    Having said that, I wish you all the best and I hope your proposal gets funded to spread and educate about DASH. Count on me and with my support.

    Best regards, Showny.
     
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    Thats not a problem. A cryptocurrency can work without constant internet and mobile signal. You just need a few internet hot spots only, where people can gather and syncronize their wallets. You can also broadcast the blockchain from a satellite, and let people synchronize with cheap satelite disks (ask @Gilemon about it)

    Thats why it is very important to reach the merchants first, then educate and donate cryptos to the people.
     
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    Hi, demo!

    Yes, sure, I agree with you. I only mentioned it like an example because it's an important fact that must be taken into account, not only in a practical and functional way regarding cryptos, but in a social perspective that helps all of us understand the circumstances of the life in the borders.

    Thank you for your clarification, I'm new in the crypto functioning so I'm looking forward to learning a lot more.
     
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    Are you new in the crypto world? Never admit this in public . You are a target now, of the people who want to fool you.
     
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    Thanks a lot for the advice!
     
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    I think that despite our various reservations, this experiment has to be tried.

    Our "theories" are just that right now with not much empirical evidence.

    This proposal is about as good as it gets when it comes to attempting a "structured helicopter" type distribution of crypto-assets IMO. That's not to take anything away from the existing Dash Venezuela projects which I think equally deserve continued support for the huge progress they've made and long term "organic" approach they've taken. The projects are distinctive in nature and that might make for a strong, complimentary groundswell of penetration that's difficult to reproduce with only a "single bullet".

    Also. the motivation behind this and will to make it work it is a factor that can't be ignored.

    Finally, the fact that so much of the budget is targeted for retention rather than conversion (to fiat) means that I will be voting for it if David's team decide to formally table the proposal.
     
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    I love the idea of helping Venezuela reboot their economy, and help people in distress.

    I like DashMax's methods of distribution and (hopefully) keeping out the fraudsters. I think scaling up the amount, together with getting merchants to accept the now significant amount of Dash is a good formula for success. Can DashMaximalist's methods be used (concentrated) in a specific area to make it worthwhile for merchants in that area?

    I very much do not like the idea that if we just throw enough Dash in Cucuta, sufficient merchants with sufficient product will magically show up in sufficient numbers to do 300,000 people any good. To maximize the chances of success, there have to be some merchants ready to go. Perhaps Algo Franelas could line up some highly motivated entrepreneurs?

    I am dubious that Cucuta is the best place to do this. I like Algo Franelas recommendations for alternate places to try this, and other very practical suggestions. Let's make 2 or 3 very successful Dash hotspots in Venezuela so people can go back, not get along slightly better in Cucuta.

    Also, the initial trial run cannot be for 2 million dollars. This is a non starter. This would cause chaos in the monthly treasury. It has to be staged in reasonable pieces that get bigger with highly defined and specific goals. So, if this goes forward, who does the escrow, how much are the reasonable sized pieces, and what are the very specific milestones?

    Also, a classroom that holds 40 people will be totally inadequate to process 300,000 people in a month. Or even two months. Or even 3 months. Do the math. One classroom can process 40 people in one hour. 300,000 / 40 = 7,500 classes of 40 people each. If you run a solid 8 hours every day, it will take 937 days running 7 days per week. That assumes watching a 35 minute video and asking questions for 15 minutes, and 10 minutes to shuffle a new batch of people in and out. It's an overwhelming logistical problem unless you figure out how to onboard people by teaching people to teach other people and giving them online resources and rewards to do it. I haven't heard any details that sound anything like that.
     
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    Thank you @Dashmaximalist what your saying makes a lot of sense. I'll be in Colombia on Saturday and will have a better idea of the situation on the ground. We are still developing the business plan so nothing is set in stone.

    Please understand my side. Committing to Dash would rule out the other platforms. Even with a small test there are going to be large start up costs. This project has many goals but one of the biggest is to see if crypto can reach a tipping point and be adopted as digital cash. If we do a successful small test I agree that proves our technology and we're capable or delivering, that sounds reasonable. If my next proposal isn't approved for any reason I have to start all over again.

    I hope there is a way to compromise. I want to be flexible I'm listening to the concerns. We don't need 2 million at the start and a small test can be accomplished with a lot less. Is there a way to setup milestones so once I achieve individual goals I can be sure the project can move on to the next step?
     
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    Take some time and study the other Dash Venezuela projects. Talk to them, listen to them. They're here on the forums. See how you guys can work together to increase your chances of success. This Dash Venezuela Alliance (DVA) is really coming together and powerful resources are coming into existence.
     
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    Thank you for your support. I'd like to talk to you more and get feedback on a few idea's I'm working on. I'll send you a PM.
     
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    We did a breakdown of the numbers in our business plan
    http://www.davidhay.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Crypto-Cucuta-Business-Plan-3.pdf

    Each office at capacity can on-board 1000 people per day. The process is broken down into three steps and the math is provided. Let me know if you see any mistakes. The videos will cover most of the content, staff and volunteers will be there to answer and questions and help people.

    This proposal is a work in progress as it develops I can provide more accurate numbers.
     
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    Well said, I'll keep developing this proposal and working with the community. I'm not arrogant but I am determine. I'm willing to put in the work, donate my time and build this concept so it has real value to the crypto community.

    I'm sorry there was no offence meant by "In the future Dash will face stronger competition". I'm obviously passionate about crypto and believe it's our future. Fee's on dash are very low I think early adoption is key.
     
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    I agree in every society money flows from desperate hands into not so desperate hands. Rich people buy their time poor people sell it. A more elaborate system like this would extremely expensive. I believe in a free economy and a tipping point. If you provide the right tools entrepreneurs will quickly adapt.
     
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    I'd just give him the whole $2 million and let him get on with it.

    This doesn't sound like a "dip your toe in the water" kind of project, more of an all or nothing job. It's already got a lot of momentum and publicity. $2 million is actually not very much in the context of trying to save a national economy and it's a distribution exercise, not a spending one so there's a far bigger "safety" factor IMO. As long as the Dash actually gets into ordinary people's hands it's not going to be wasted (net of costs needed to run the project of course).
     
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    They literally can't pass the money out that fast. And 2 million would put a big dent in the treasury, possibly bumping other worthy projects.

    I see no disadvantage to doing it over 3 treasury cycles.
     
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