terrible timing :tongue: Mintapal is still down[09:58:13] <evan82> Enforcement has been activated![]()
terrible timing :tongue: Mintapal is still down[09:58:13] <evan82> Enforcement has been activated![]()
Light.... MP is done, over, out....terrible timing :tongue: Mintapal is still down![]()
I got the payment at block 148103[10:29:01] <evan82> The network is definitely rejecting blocks, we're down to 2000 diff
[10:29:45] <evan82> Checkout the string of masternode payments: https://drk.mn/blocks.html#blocksdetail
[10:29:56] <evan82> 12 in a row, woot
I actually did miss that in a way, but it doesn't change my opinion. The masternode blockchain validation provides redundancy, but it should nt be the only way to validate the blockchain. That would mean that anyone coming to DRK would have to "buy in" to be able to participate. While that has a certain appeal to it (i.e. less speculation), it also creates a vulnerability. No one is forcing anyone else to mine - that is there choice if they want to spend resources like electricity to make some coins. Bottom line is that we should INCREASE ways that people can participate, not DECREASE them.1. Did you miss the part that Masternodes can do everything miners can do, just as securely, and there's no actual need for petaflops of compute power to maintain the blockchain? What you are describing here is miners as a liability, not a good argument for maintaining them.
2. A 'sufficient monetary base?' What does that mean? 2000-3000 Masternodes (which Evan wants, and I'm happy to agree with him) will not happen while 80% of block reward goes to miners, who as of the near future with InstanTX will simply be a backup mechanism. Does your personal backup plan (for anything, IT related or otherwise) cost 4 times as much as your daily use kit?
3. Completely agree.![]()
Your point is totally valid and I totally agree. I'm not against increasing the reward to MN owners, however, people are short-sighted by thinking MN owners should have 100% profit without realizing that by increasing the profit, the MN number will also increase, and their payment will still be the same or even less. There's still not a clear explanation why 900 MNs aren't enough for security for Darksend and InstantX. Probably Evan will explain in the next update.I actually did miss that in a way, but it doesn't change my opinion. The masternode blockchain validation provides redundancy, but it should nt be the only way to validate the blockchain. That would mean that anyone coming to DRK would have to "buy in" to be able to participate. While that has a certain appeal to it (i.e. less speculation), it also creates a vulnerability. No one is forcing anyone else to mine - that is there choice if they want to spend resources like electricity to make some coins. Bottom line is that we should INCREASE ways that people can participate, not DECREASE them.
I'm in DRK for the long term, and I'd like to see it maintain a stable, user-based focus. After all, the more people that use it, the more secure it is.
I can def do the linux side of things for you! I was also thinking we could setup some vm's with team viewer on them and use their recording feature to actually demo the features instead of just talk about them. Would be trivial to demo mac, windows, and linux wallets all working. If the TV record didn't work could also do it with Screen Flow from a mac recording vm's.oblox - correct me if I'm wrong here but - - When you move to the other side of the decimal point, and remaining positive of course, you enter into a whole new realm in numbers. Yes, I agree, DarkSend does suck for under 10DRK and it really sucks/is null for less than 1DRK. The barrier into this realm needs to be broken and I believe that Even will eventually find the answer. It's gonna be ground-breaking of course but in no way will it be easy. Thing is, I don't see DRK crossing the decimal point barrier for some time but I do believe that Evan will get us closer to 1 and eventually cross-over into the realm of decimals. As we have seen with BTC, micro and even nano transactions are in use and even required for "normal" transactions for services and products. This will also be needed and even required for DRK eventually. Being able to DarkSend, at some point, micro and nano transactions, will be the holy grail for DarkSend.
Sorry coingun - couldn't find oblox original post to respond to so I had to high-jack your post - lol
coingun - Yes testnet is for, well, testing DRK of course and it very well should be and can be used for learning the DRK environment. I completely agree, but, thing is, a lot of newbies have no clue testnet even exists. I myself have only used the testnet environment with DRK only and I only use it on my personal computer. I actually have a laptop that is solely reserved for MainNet wallets and that's ALL it's used for. I believe that a "Learning" section should be put on the Main DRK website that is a Dummies Guide to DRK. This Guide would need to be fully detailed and step-by-step stating, Before you start using DRK.......CLICK HERE. I'd be more than happy to write something up and pass it off to another individual to clean it up and add some things I might over look. I have already written a - Dummies Guide to MasterNode, but it still needs to be completed on the Linux side, Linux noob here - ugh.
If anybody is willing to jump on bored with me in completing the - Dummies Guide to MasterNode - and assisting with - Dummies Guide to DRK - hit me up in PM and lets get this thing finished/goingrespectfully.
While DRK will be highly coveted and it's future very bright, adoption will require understanding and understanding will require instruction(s). Who's with me?
PM me please :-D
That is what is going to happen... every month or two there is going to be a 5% jump to the masternode side. It won't be an overnight 50/50, 40/60, or 60/40 payout structure but will progressively ramp up.I don't believe the plan is to go with 100%, but a few ones have raised that possibility.
Somewhere around a 40/60 or 60/40 sounds reasonnable, but to avoid any conflict and focus on developpment and growth of dark, why not opt for a progressive increase up to 50/50 and be done with this.
One must not forget that the miners far outweight masternode owners in numbers. There must be something left on the table for them to eat. On Suchpool we have from 1500 to 1800 regular Darkcoin miners, that alone is 2-3 even maybe 4 times the amount of masternodes.
My suggestion again: Create a service like flare's MN service: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/service-masternode-hosting-service.2648/That I know already. The final payout structure is what would need to be revised IMO. That siad, I am totally for the gradual increase to make things smoother.
they do not have to run their own MN with 1000, there are other services where people share MN's 50/50 or even with 100 DRK each (10 people) ... i agree with moli, these kind of services are needed and it is good we have them but we need more of them and further spread out !Nice idea Moli, we already thought about it. We would need to evaluate liability and find an optimal way to store multiple nm's securely.
I doubt we'd have 1200 of our miners that can Afford to have a masternode. This is only a minority of miners which can afford to mine, pay their electricity and keep 1000's of DRK on the side to get Masternodes!
Tungfa, eth1 doesn't want to hold liability for investors' darkcoins, so the service like flare's MN service is better but he still has to do the upkeep.. etc... and he's a busy man.. But I like the idea of scattering the locations for MNs and his server would be in Canada.they do not have to run their own MN with 1000, there are other services where people share MN's 50/50 or even with 100 DRK each (10 people) ... i agree with moli, these kind of services are needed and it is good we have them but we need more of them and further spread out !
that will be even safer and will bring the MN numbers way up !
I would be ready to accept liability if I could have some assistance to run the operation of somebody already experienced with masternodes and a propre ledger/tracking system that we can audit to ensure accountability for each masternode share acquired by customers.Tungfa, eth1 doesn't want to hold liability for investors' darkcoins, so the service like flare's MN service is better but he still has to do the upkeep.. etc... and he's a busy man.. But I like the idea of scattering the locations for MNs and his server would be in Canada.