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Discussion in 'Projects' started by isysd, Dec 28, 2015.
lets hope we have GOOD news from Ira before TNABC
Hi, We Created A Crypto Coin ATM
Oh, and did we mention we made it open source?
Cool story bro, but what does it do?
Thanks for asking! Here are a few key features
Multiple Crypto Currencies
Our ATM currently supports not only Bitcoin, but also Litecoin and Dogecoin. It also allows for users who don't have a coin wallet to print a Bitcoin wallet right from the ATM.
Our entire codebase is open source and on GitHub. We didn't hide any code or hold anything back. If we used it in our ATM you have complete access to it.
All but 2 of our parts for this ATM were bought on Amazon. Heck, some of them you probably have laying around the house or shop. We break down the entire parts list below.
We built our ATM using easy-to-source parts
What's that you say? You're a busy person and don't have time to search for all the parts?
No problem, here's a shopping list!
We built the housing for our ATM out of plywood from our local hardware store. You can really use any material you want!
This is the computer we used to build our ATM. Why this specific computer you ask? Well, we just had an extra one laying around from another project. You could defiantly use another computer.
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For our screen we wanted something with a bit of size and it had to be touch screen, but at the same time, we didn't want to break the bank.
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We found this awesome bill acceptor and it works great! Takes $1, $5 & $20 bills!
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IEIK UNO R3 Board
We needed this to connect the bill acceptor to the computer.
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The webcam is used to scan the QR code for the coin wallet. Again, the reason we chose this webcam was we had it laying around. You can defiantly find a cheap webcam.
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We wanted a thermal printer for printing coin wallets that was small and inexpensive. Well we found one!
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We had to connect the screen some way! Just make sure it is TRIPLE SHIELDED and ONLY USE GOLD CONNECTORS (just kidding , use the cheapest cable you can find!)
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HDMI Right Angle Adapters
These will just make your life easier... trust us!
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Hey, you gotta plug it all in some how right? You most likely have one of these somewhere in your house.
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Do you have any questions? We’ve got answers
What crypto coins does the ATM support?
Right now you can purchase Bitcoins, Litecoins and Dogecoins
What if a user doesn't have a coin wallet?
No problem. Currently our ATM supports printing of Bitcoin wallets. It prints both the public and private key for the user.
Can I use your code to build my own ATM to make money?
Of course. Currently we don't have code in place to charge any ATM fees, but these are in the plan for the future. You can always fork us on GitHub and add this functionailty yourself.
I have a suggestion/comment. How can I contact you?
You can email us at [email protected]. You can also contact John (@johnjhass) & Tony (@virelli) on Twitter.
Want To Build Your Own?
Great! Get started by download/forking us on GitHub.
@Dunedoo Very cool ! Just a coupla questions:
1. How much was total material cost to build this?
2. Can purchase Bitcoins, Litecoins and Dogecoins... Not Dash?
3. and last, but least... Really? and it works just fine?
LOL but we need 12 months of funding for this one
@Dunedoo no need to show us a video of working product right now... maybe just promise to provide that after you 'return from vacation'.
Edit: as you seem like a trustworthy character.
I ask myself, "Would I trust this guy with my wallet?"
And With @Minotaur 'playing the duck' as he is, it reminds me of when buddy says:
"Trust me, I'll take care of your money like it was my own".
Lamassu project is over after 12 months. Did lamassu received all the Dash money? Where did all this money go? While at the same time is there no deliverable?
It is obvious that the budget system has serious accountability problems. Those problems should be adressed in a new budget protocol, where the given money should be taken back upon decision-vote of the community, in case no deliverable is available.
lamassu intergration was proposed 28-12-2015.
The catm.io ATM opensource project dates at least from Jan 2016.
Why nobody mentioned this before?
I spotted this this morning thinking how hard could it be. Good old google. I'm frustrated, as I can't buy Dash easily.
I don't want to use fiat to buy BTC then exchange it for Dash, whats the point. It needs to be easy to buy Dash.
I want to use https://www.livingroomofsatoshi.com/ to pay my bills with DASH with BPAY.
I was thinking of going out to the shed and knocking up a quick Dash ATM out of of plywood and spare parts.
Put in a budget proposal of say 2000 dash to build it, go get some BTC then trade it for Dash, load up the Dash ATM and then bingo, my problem is solved, I can buy Dash from myself using the budget funding and if anyone wants to see a working machine, I'll say I need more Dash for transport of at least 10000 dash (because its a long way from Australia) load it up on a x people smugglers boat and push it out to sea. If the tides are favourable, it should hit the states eventually (most probably later).
By the way, I was searching one of those wallets that are related to the lamassu payments. and even Coinfirm fails to create a report of what are they!
Coinfirm is still unable to generate a report!
I think Coinfirm does not work properly.
Minotaur Well-known Member
Dash Core Group Foundation Member
Joined: Apr 7, 2014
last seen: Oct 14, 2016
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This guy received 936 likes. Average 2,2 likes for each message. And only 3 negative ratings. Too many likes! He is supposed to be a credible person, isnt he? Or maybe...dont you think that the like system is somehow flawed? Well, this is where big data turns usefull. Lets discover those who rated positevely the Minotaur. In order to discover the Minotaur (and who is hiding behind him) lets use Ariadne's thread.
In the absence of a Web of Trust, in the absense of a strictly defined electorate consisting of real persons, every voting system is flawed. Including the Dash Timocracy of course which is implemented in the budget system, and where we dont know how many masternodes every operator owns.
@kot @babygiraffe Wonder when the core team will give us updates as to where the money has been spent and how it failed.
I would guess that Minotaur will never get a proposal passed ever again after this.
Additionaly those who supported the lamassu project by voting it, they must give the money back.
Τhe person who didnt accomplish the job is not the only responsible for the fiasco.
The masternodes who voted for him are also responsible and they should pay the money spend, in case this money is lost.
Make them pay for the fiasco, so that way the next time they will think to vote for bullshits, they will be more cautious.
I have been around long enough to know that many projects fail in business they are not all successful. Learn from your mistakes and carry on....Masternodes should not have to pay this back. I would expect that Ira Miller pay back the funds if there has not been any work delivered to a high standard.
What I do NOT like however is the silence:
1) Core team letting this drag on without taking responsibility to find out whats going on and inform the community. Many of them have direct contact to Ira Miller and Daniel. All it takes is a phone call to demand whats going on! It ISNT THAT HARD.
2) Making excuses like we should have some info soon and never delivering upon those expectations.
3) Possibly hoping that by staying quiet this will somehow be forgotten.
@kot @babygiraffe - If I were you, I would set aside some time in your busy schedules to get to the bottom of this or risk damaging your work even further.
If Ira Miller dont pay back the funds , then the masternodes who supported this project should pay. This is the only way they will learn to vote wisely. You have to pay, in order to pay attention, and that way learn smth. According to my calculations, every masternode from those 1459 who voted yes, should pay 5 dash to cover the loss (this should happen of course only in case there is no deliverable and Ira Miller refuses to pay back the funds)
Deliver first and pay later, maybe that is the way to vote
And who wants to deliver before get paid? Anyway what you propose may be a solution for the future proposals.
But today we have the problem that 7000 dash have been paid, and there is no deliverable!
So could you please suggest your solution for the today problem?
I agree! Trouble is, @Minotaur wouldn't make any future proposals anyways - as @babygiraffe does this now for all core proposals.
So @Minotaur 's proposals may hide behind @babygiraffe 's proposals?
Is this what you are saying?
And then this of course would be policy for all proposals... at what point would any particular proposal become classified a 'fiasco'?
Edit: Don't forget, even though all payments have been made, this proposal still has 12 months left before it is complete (ie. the 12 months of 'service' that were contracted for)...
Lol, I suppose so (and a wee bit more as well) - if you read between the lines.
A particular proposal is classified as a 'fiasco' if there is no delivarable. This is the ultimate fiasco.
In case a proposal is not an ultimate fiasco, then it is difficult to objectively judge whether something is a fiasco or not.
So lets focus on ultimate fiascos for now, and make a policy about ultimate fiascos for all future proposals. Although it is difficult to classify fiascos, I think it is easy to classify ultimate fiascos.
I didnt know that. So in that case lamassu ATM is not an ultimate fiasco. We have to wait 12 months in order to clasiffy it as an ultimate. Lamassu is doing what it is written in the contract, and nobody can blame lamassu.
But on the other hand, this is an ultimate fiasco contract! Who are the ones who voted so that first to pay for something, then wait for 12 months for the deliverable? Shouldnt we punish those 1459 who voted in favor of such an agreement?
So lets focus on ultimate fiascos contacts for now, and make a policy about ultimate fiascos contracts for all future proposals. Although it is difficult to classify fiasco contracts, I think it is easy to classify ultimate fiasco contracts, as long as those ultimate fiasco contracts have a common thing. They pay all the money and wait 12 months for the deliverable.
And because 12 months is a harcoded number and someone may say that 11 months is the fiasco limit, lets vote this number.
Who will do this ? People who mean well, people who have the skill and connections to get a product to market without help ?
Loads of people are willing to do this and loads of people do this already. If my heating breaks the plumber comes over fixes it and sends me the bill, electricity is delivered to my house and at the end of the month I pay the bill for what I used, same with my phone bills. Even in a store you pick up the product first and then pay for it after ... The same is true for all the contracting work I have been doing for years, we make a plan I deliver they pay (often there is an in between step / legal contract with extra payments but I still work before they pay)
As to your problem at hand (or in your mind) ? There is no solution, the network made a bad bet, a bad investment, learn from it and move on. Unless there is reasonable grounds for legal action (and as far as I can tell there is none) there is no reasonable recourse to solve this. I also see no issue ...
Getting the master nodes who voted to pay would further reduce the participation in the voting, so no I do not like the idea you proposed in an other thread. This is the deal in a democratic system, sometimes the majority hurts the minority and you have to live with it. Sins the Dash network is a voluntary system that does not force people to participate I have no problem with that. And if you do then maybe Dash is not the place for you … (just my 2 newbie cents)
@kot @babygiraffe are the exact same people that gave us Coinfirm, now our "official compliance partner"... funny how the "successful" projects are against end-users yet an ATM that serves the people is nowhere to be seen...
Just to clarify this long on ongoing misinformation about this proposal, it is not with Lamassu the manufacture of the ATM.
The proposal is with Ira aka GitGuild to create a branch of the Lamassu software compatible with DASH, which could someday be merged into the official Lamassu software.
There have been some challenges as Lamassu is rewriting their code base to support ETH and I believe Ira is having to rewrite his code as well. But the silence that continues is causing this to start to take on the ultimate fiasco label.
Yes, the silence is deafening... last official comment in this thread was on July 19:
Since then, NOTHING more than questions, speculations, and pleadings from the Dash community.
The idea of ATMs should have been dead in the water from the get-go because it undermines the very purpose and use of IX.
Is there anybody on the team who *IS* available to provide an update? I don't think it's acceptable for the only contact person for this project to be unavailable for months without at least having someone else delegated to be able to follow up.