Dash is now worth 3% of Bitcoin. Latest update was in Feb 2017. How can we make Evolution faster?

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You're right, I was wrong. Here are all the updates I was complaining about https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/june-2017-dash-core-team-monthly-report.15804/ . I am admitting I was wrong about not being any updates. If I am wiling to do that, would you be willing to agree that this information might not be in the best location possible? Or that perhaps it could be moved to a different location so that other people like me would have found it easier?

I'd like to suggest an idea for improvement: a What's New section, dash.org/whats-new. Here you'd list the information exactly as @kot listed in his post that I mentioned above. Do you want to know what's new in Dash? Go do dash.org/whats-new. Would you agree that dash.org/whats-new is better than a thread in a forum?
 
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I agree. The topmost subforum named "Official Development News and Information" is absolutely not the best location possible. It's only 99.99% perfect because you have to navigate there from the dash.org main page first, which is quite the hassle.

If my grandmother can't find the project updates within 1.3 seconds Dash will definitely fail.
 

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I agree. The topmost subforum named "Official Development News and Information" is absolutely not the best location possible. It's only 99.99% perfect because you have to navigate there from the dash.org main page first, which is quite the hassle.

If my grandmother can't find the project updates within 1.3 seconds Dash will definitely fail.
Only downside is that the order gets all jumbled up, so if someone was asking for an extensive list of comms I would point them to the Reddit page rather than the forum.
 

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Yes let's not make pregnancy analogies when dealing with cryptocurrencies?
No, let's do exactly that, because this analogy fully applies: Software needs to be designed, coded, tested, recoded and retested until it's mature for release. You can put 50 noob developers on that job or 5 experienced ones, but you can't magically produce 50 experienced ones out of thin air. Each one of them needs to be onboarded first, which means they have to read and understand the existing codebase. Nothing of what you've suggested so far is remotely capable of accelerating that, so the answer to your question is: Nothing. You can do nothing to speed up Evolution, unless start becoming a code-whiz with in-depth knowledge in the code within a couple of weeks.

Let's not also remove vague comments from this post, like "some things just don't take more resources". Yeah, some don't, but some do.
It's only vague if you pretend to not know exactly what I'm talking about. You started this thread with a specifc topic so when I say "some things" it's abundantly clear that I mean a big software product like Evolution. You haven't addressed my point btw, only complained about it.

How is your post helping with anything?
Ask the people who agreed with it.

It's just wasting my time replying.
I don't remember forcing you to make useless replies.


That's simply not true. Many people warned of the possibility that a malicious group of Masternodes could collude and subvert the system.
Bullshit reframing of what actually happened to fit your retarded narrative. Nobody was remotely able to anticipate this specific exploit. One of our own developers discovered it and did something about it. No one from those imaginary "many people" who didn't "warn" but only bashed in a desperate attempt to make Dash look bad. Exactly like you, iCEHOLE.

That's why Masternode Blinding was such a badly needed feature.
Bullshit. This exploit has absolutely nothing to do with MN blinding and you still desperately clinging to it after all these years only shows your pathological obsession, iCETARD.

The Dash community didn't listen to the warnings and attacked people for making predictions that have come to pass.
Bullshit. Nothing came to pass and there were no "warnings", only your retarded barks over the years which were exposed as idiotic every single time, iCEHOLE.

The Dash community ignored the fact that trusted third parties are security holes. And now that InstantSend has been destroyed by exactly that problem, DashCoreGroup is desperately hoping their workarounds and band-aids will solve what is actually a fundamental architectural problem.
Bullshit. 1) You can't ignore something that never applied in the first place. 2) LOL "destroyed". The only thing that was destroyed is your credibility, iCETARD.

Your smug assumption that Masternodes could not act in malicious groups was not backed by any research or even thorough testing. You only believed that because it confirmed your biases.
Bullshit. Nobody ever believed that. You should know that best, actually: You've begged for 1000 Dash yourself to set up a Masternode, iCECUCK.

And instead of dealing with the cognitive dissonance of being wrong, you tell yourself happy fables about how 'Nobody Could Have Predicted This' and 'It Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time.'
Bullshit. We weren't wrong as the market has irrefutably proven and has irredeemably annihilated your ludicrous batshit diatribes.

You have not done anything but assume building Evolution is somehow analogous to human gestation. Where is the evidence for that?
Bullshit. Analogies don't need "evidence". I've provided a clear explanation how software development is comparable to a pregnancy, ICETURD.

There are established best practices for moving a project to an accelerated development schedule. The 'good enough' attitude underlying your proposed solution of quoting some folksy aphorism and giving up is why Evolution is so far behind schedule.
Only complete morons attempt perfection in software development. You obviously don't know how software engineering works and your lack of expertise becomes embarrassing the moment you attempt to apply it hoping no one notices you have no idea what you're talking about.


Evolution has already taken longer than 9 months. If a women was pregnant for 13 months, you better believe the father would demand an update from the OBGYN and start preparing himself for the terrible news that the baby is stillborn or at best afflicted by some congenital disorder.
In October 2015 Evolution was predicted to take 3 years until full release. Scheduled release is summer 2018. Frilled sharks have gestation periods of up to 3.5 years, so even a moron with a congenital Dash-Down-Syndrome like you might be able to see there's more than one type of pregnancy.


As a domain expert, I have no need for argument by analogy.
The only domain you're an expert in is advanced basement dwelling and neckbeard grooming.

For me, it's preferable to avoid invoking messy analogies and stick to discussing the actual facts.
Me too, that's why I only use good analogies to easier convey the facts.

In my paradigm, it's absolutely ridiculous for spin doctors like Macrochip to deflect attention away from Evolution's lack of progress by shifting the discussion to emotionally inflammatory topics like pregnant women.
You don't have a paradigm unless your paradigm is obsessive lunacy and the only spin you will experience is going to be in your grave when you've committed suicide because you couldn't handle Dash's marketcap surpassing 100 billion. Your virtue signalling tirade about anything being inflammatory other than your presence on this forum is almost as preposterous as your delusion of Evolution lacking progress.

In the "{rushing Evolution} IS LIKE {rushing gestation}" metaphor, poor put-upon Evolution becomes a sacrosanct mother-like victim beset upon by the rapacious, unrealistic expectations of greedy Dash investors.
Despite his "{being a pathetic Dash hater} MAKES ME {the savior of poor crypto investors}"-delusion, poor shat-upon iCEBREAKER becomes an object of well deserved universal disdain and ridicule robbed by himself from the slightest shred of credibility.

That's just absolutely fucking asinine. Now we've seen "muuuuh Grandmother's 90th birthday" and "you wouldn't rush an expectant mother would you" used to rationalize Evolution's slow-to-nonexistent pace of development via the shaming of critics and inquisitors.
iCECUCK, tell me: What are you? A glutton for punishment? Did you feel so alone and neglected over at Shitcointalk you had to come here for some attention? Aren't you used to loneliness from real life? Do you really need to come here on our turf to receive the smackdown of a lifetime? You've been parodied, ridiculed, humiliated, exposed and annihilated so many times that I lost count. You've been retardedly posting your puny Dash hate tirades since the price was <$2 and you're still here pretending to "warn" people after many people made 200,000% gain with Dash. You're still here after nothing you ever said came even remotely true. How much humiliation does it take for you to realize how hard you have lost?

Any self-respecting person would've bowed their head in shame the second Dash hit 100 USD, but not you, you don't let that pesky stuff get in your way, right?
 
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I agree. The topmost subforum named "Official Development News and Information" is absolutely not the best location possible. It's only 99.99% perfect because you have to navigate there from the dash.org main page first, which is quite the hassle.

If my grandmother can't find the project updates within 1.3 seconds Dash will definitely fail.
@Macrochip

Yes, it's obviously not the best location. I'm advocating for a single page with summaries in descending order and this is what you're suggesting

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Excuse me. I'm tired of your rapid fire complaint threads. All I saw you do in the last couple of days is complaining. I'm not saying "stfu", because as I said before, I tend to agree with some grievances, but you should focus on one problem at a time and stop being so damn impatient otherwise you're doing yourself a disservice by fatiguing the community's attention span resulting in you ending up ignored and achieving no improvement after all.
 
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Excuse me. I'm tired of your rapid fire complaint threads. All I saw you do in the last couple of days is complaining. I'm not saying "stfu", because as I said before, I tend to agree with some grievances, but you should focus on one problem at a time and stop being so damn impatient otherwise you're doing yourself a disservice by fatiguing the community's attention span resulting in you ending up ignored and achieving no improvement after all.
You are on a Dash forum, on a thread titled "How can we make Evolution faster", and you think this is a complaint thread? I've started 3 threads: 1 suggesting a new forum, 1 asking how I can help getting data on proposals and 1 on how to make evolution faster. Your simple brain can't handle 3 threads and your solution is to be sarcastic in your non productive replies? Why don't you shut the fuck up then if you have nothing to add?
 
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You're a strange fellow. When I was being provocative you remained friendly. As soon as I turned friendly as well you flew completely off the handle. You should reconsider who's the one having brain problems here, brah.
 
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Yes and one thread suggesting we stop voting for rain ponchos and mma fighters since we are a cryptocurrency. If this is considered complaining here and not allowed perhaps you can direct me where I should take my complaints?
 
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Yes and one thread suggesting we stop voting for rain ponchos and mma fighters since we are a cryptocurrency. If this is considered complaining here and not allowed perhaps you can direct me where I should take my complaints?
It is allowed just fine, just do not exspect everyone to agree with you or have the same interest in these kind of threads.
 

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Yes and one thread suggesting we stop voting for rain ponchos and mma fighters since we are a cryptocurrency. If this is considered complaining here and not allowed perhaps you can direct me where I should take my complaints?
lol nice deflection attempt. Selective perception, much? He got you there big time.

And just for the record: There never was any proposal to fund an MMA fighter. It was an independent donation driven initiative. Next you're going to complain how people spend their own private funds?
 
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you're doing yourself a disservice by fatiguing the community's attention span resulting in you ending up ignored and achieving no improvement after all.
@Macrochip If your neurons are fatigued by the 4 threads I started you can just ignore what I post and stop replying. Just click on my name and chose ignore. You don't add anything productive to the conversation by being sarcastic, triggered or provocative.
 

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@Macrochip If your neurons are fatigued by the 4 threads I started you can just ignore what I post and stop replying. Just click on my name and chose ignore. You don't add anything productive to the conversation by being sarcastic, triggered or provocative.

My neurons are just fine because I can't be arsed to read every message on all 4 threads and I'll decide what I reply to and how by myself, thanks for your concern.

I was giving you friendly advice on how to achieve your goal by explaining basic human psychology and suggesting to avoid overstraining your audience. If you perceive it as an attack, by all means, continue spamming our forum with pointless tirades soon nobody's going to reply to anymore.

Oh and I made lots of useful contributions to this place and Dash as a whole long before you came along, kiddo. So save the condescending attitude. Case in point
 

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Yes I didn't know about this post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/6kbrua/link_collection_all_recent_core_team/ . I has everything I need to know and more. I don't often go on reddit and when I do it's not to see the dash subreddit, so perhaps this page could be moved to a different location? I don't know if it's possible to put the page in one place and have it replicated / mirrored in the forum + dash.org + reddit?
Oh I'm flattered! You like that page? How come? Your hamfisted ratings all say that my posts are "dumb" :confused:
 

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As nonsensical and arbitrary as most market movements are, the OP does make a sideways point.

I don't fully agree, but there is some truth in it.

DASH has had a chronic failure to execute for nearly two years.

BTC/BCH was already one the most enormous and obvious money printing scams of all time, and they're set to do yet another photocopy of the entire blockchain in a week or two... There are few government who have done worse, and wasn't Satoshi's promise that this could be ended? You can count on extreme stupidity for only so long. Bitclones' feature set vacuum has led to every desperate nonsense tangent imaginable, even unto defeating it's own intents. It's reduced to a ponzi shitcoin copy machine where both sides of the fork are kept alive... Yet the price soars...

If you were looking for logic, the crypto market is the last place in the universe you'll ever find it. They promote the advantages even as they are undermined in the most obnoxious fashion...

BTC is only pumping as everybody gets on board for the next photocopy session to double their holdings out of nothingness, just like "quantitative easing."

If you're looking at it for ponzi investment, you'd have better luck with an Ouija Board than anything involving logic or sanity.

I'm here because DASH had the people interested in doing crypto correctly and usefully, finding the solutions to why Satoshi's promises were not coming true. I hope the idea of DASH can pull through even though the project has lost it's way. I see @tungfa and @kot now talking about DASH not being about the pump... But I'm not seeing any results.

The OP is right in that there is a reflection in the price. It's an indicator, not an end unto itself. DASH is possessed of a chronic failure to execute.

Keep saying "it's not ready yet" until everything is perfect, and you'll never release anything. Accomplishing something messy that you can fix up is better than doing nothing at all because you're a perfectionist...
 
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Holla to Tungfa et al, been a while since I commented.

This'll be just my 2 cents but I've been following Dash + crypto in general for a while, I was buying Darkcoin and mining BTC in 2013......

Straight up: F*** this negativity and high-horse hollering from some fairly new 'members' here.

Literally dictating to seasoned and frankly visionary programmers about what they should be doing. FFS, Dash has increased in 'value' massively even ridiculously in the last few years and esp in the last 18 months. All thanks to the hard work of DuffMan and the Devs (a new Dash sponsored rock band???)

I can't abide by people with an emotional attachment to Bitcoin or whatever crypto they 'love' so much. 'BTC forever!' 'It's crypto King, # 1 and the daddy!' all that forum [email protected] I read all the time. I'm no lover of Dash for no reason, no fanboy or loyal club-member.

It's got IMO, the best development team, the best and most honest debate and progression within the community and on this forum and as far as Evolution goes, it's ready when it's ready and I for one FULLY TRUST the development team to deliver a great platform and a leading interface for crypto-currency.

People spamming and whining about Evolution are absolutely TRIPPING! STFU already, simple as. You're 'concern' and 'opinions' are a woefully thin veil for your monney-grabbing, get-rich-quick $hit.

I have lost 800ish Dash/Darkcoin since my days buying them and cannot now afford to be a Masternode, it breaks my heart this RGXDK has over 1000 Dash and then has the front to whine and bitch about programming and product delivery he/she clearly doesn't understand!

Phew! Had to get that off my chest, big up Bill Cassidy, Tungfa and all other members of the forum who are positive people and want to see a top platform/product which genuinely has the opportunity to change the lives of many of the world's unbanked. Evolution will deliver I'm sure and it's onwards and upwards at a pace that people much more talented than me see fit.

Thank you Dash Team, thank you DuffMan and, to coin a phrase: F*** the haters!

Peace
 

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Dash should do like Ripple: use the money to hire top international talent and management.