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If that's how you feel, you should stop accepting donations in Dash, because Dash is anonymous and you will never know where the money has been. That also applies to cash, by the way.
This video is not about me, I am speaking from the point of view of the general public, me personally, I don't care about anything
 

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So much fear, be free and have fun, like me
Dude I probably have more Ether than you ;)

And by the way,

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.” - Ben Franklin
 

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Remember guys, everyone is entitled to an opinion! Dash more than anything is about freedom, lets not lose sight of that.
 

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Craig, I know everyone has said it in one form or another already, but I just want to say that privacy, not necessarily anonymity, is very important to human life, right down to how we act, what we'll buy, etc... if we know we're essentially being watched. There is always something about your inner personal desires that you don't want to expose to the world. I have a couple of hobbies that I don't want to share to the world because they kind of equate me with being what would equal a "cat lady" When someone says "oh, she's an old cat lady" do you have respect for her anymore? Probably not, you probably think she's a simple old and lonely lady who's only friends are cats. My old lady hobby is only one of many, but that particular one would paint me a certain way to people, and I don't want to share that. As a kid, I liked a band that my friends teased me for, so I hid that fact as well. We all have secrets, they may be benign and innocent, but they are still things that are a part of ourselves that we don't want to expose or else, we would feel inclined to change that part of ourselves. And that would be a horrible thing.

Dash anonymity is a choice. I can tell you, I've gotten a TON of flack for being involved here. This includes ridicule, and pressure to stop being involved from friends and family - because they think it's dangerous and possibly illegal. But in this case I'm open to some, and I hide it from others. So then I'm free to pursue my passions as I see fit.

And that's not even addressing the need for all coins to be fungible, equal and uncolored, so that a person accepting Dash will know that their Dash is equal to any other Dash on the network. This need is an absolute requirement for a monetary unit and Bitcoin fails at this.

Finally, I think people will slowly understand how protected their personal information is, under Evolution - which is only accessible to the user unless the user decides to publish it, and for 99.9% of the people, this will feel just fine to them, the rest can run a full node or use a centralized app.

In the meantime, I propose this is the least interesting aspect to Dash. I also see no reason to feel tainted, as if using Dash means you must be doing something improper, just because it's fungible. Do you feel that way when you use cash? Trust me, that cash has seen more drug deals than Dash will for many years to come.

But I love your blog, it speaks! And I think you can really reach people that way, thanks for doing it! I hope you'll continue with doing blogs, maybe, if we've convinced you the importance of privacy, your next blog can update this one?
 
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When you make suggestions about possible investments in your videos you might think about doing some research about what it is you are suggeting, at the least for the sake of your listeners. Or put a disclaimer that "you don't do research" - I've injoyed your shows for the most part but you might be barking up the wrong tree here.
 

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I don't know what the word "fungibility" means, and I dont wnat to know. It should be deleted from the English language, as I see it being used to make excuses for stupidity
Simply, it means that each unit is exactly the same as the next unit. Like one ounce of 99.9% gold is the same value as another ounce of 99.9% gold. So if a bitcoin comes out of the account of a known drug dealer, many people don't want to accept it. it makes them look like they have something to do with that drug dealer. Coinbase already banned coins coming from known gambling sites. This created a double tier system where freshly mined bitcoin were worth more than older bitcoins, which were worth more than bitcoins that came from dubious sources. So then came a bunch of "laundering" services where they mix your coins for you with others and then you have clean bitcoin again. Laundering services make Bitcoin fungible again unless coins can be tracked to those sites in the future, and places start to reject them as well, after all, why do you need to wash your bitcoin?

Dash has this in it's core protocol. You don't need to use it if you want to show everything that happens in your wallet, which would be a nice feature if you're a charity or something, but you can use it to increase your privacy. Does that make sense?
 
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When you make suggestions about possible investments in your videos you might think about doing some research about what it is you are suggeting, at the least for the sake of your listeners. Or put a disclaimer that "you don't do research" - I've injoyed your shows for the most part but you might be barking up the wrong tree here.
Or maybe get more insight from us before posting, but I can totally see how asking questions gives you completely incorrect information too, LOL, so personally, I'd make your blog organic, and if we've convinced you of the importance of privacy, your next blog can be, hey, you know, I learned something about this anonymity thing since my last post, and now I see there is an important function to it....etc... At least I hope we convinced you there :D

I can say that these are basic foundational properties of money that are well known, and all must abide by, including the Federal Reserve or any monetary issuing body, and although the banks want to do away with cash, until they come up with something just as private, it will never work. Unless it's real crypto that is fungible.

But then again, I want to say again, I really like your down to earth style. This space is so full of techno geeks, but you're speaking to normal people and that's so super! I'm following you now ;)
 
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When I watch videos explaining what dashabout the idea of being anonymous is were shipped, and that is bad for doing business
running a profitable crypto currency business has nothing to do with the government and what they do with cash
I don't care what they do with my information because at the end of the day I am the one who spends my money
If valuing privacy cost money then it's not worth anything
The government does not care about my money because I am not a bad person so I don't have to fear the government
I am happy to email targets my ads to me because I don't want to see ads that I'm not interested in
it's crazy to be involved in something that is a currency and it be not about the money, i mean if was organic food I can understand... but a currency with ideals not about money, thats crazy
I don't know what the word "fungibility" means, and I dont wnat to know. It should be deleted from the English language, as I see it being used to make excuses for stupidity
I don't read, or research, I do business and have fun with money. The word fungibility is only used by dash, I have never seen or heard it anywhere else, so to program my mind with that word being important is a mental trap
This video is not about me, I am speaking from the point of view of the general public, me personally, I don't care about anything
Yes I have never seen or heard it anywhere else, I am not saying it's not somewhere else, I am saying I have never heard anyone else use it, only dash
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ok, so the reason I made this video was from reading the replies in this forum post https://dashtalk.org/threads/poll-dash-direction.7789/#post-80670

I am simply a tool, anything I say it's because it needs to be said.. I don't have any personal views, but I know if dash wants to be the type of company that puts soda machines in public places, then valuing users who are anonymous will need to be removed from the dash business model
 

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The reason I made this video was from reading the replies in this forum post https://dashtalk.org/threads/poll-dash-direction.7789/#post-80670

I am simply a tool, anything I say it's because it needs to be said.. I don't have any personal views, but I know if dash wants to be the type of company that puts soda machines in public places, then valuing users who are anonymous will need to be removed from the dash business model
 

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The government does not care about my money because I am not a bad person so I don't have to fear the government
Snowden wasn't a bad guy, yet they are STILL trying to jail him.

Doesn't seem very fair to let the government decide who is good and bad, hence why we have courts.

Just trying to show you the way of the privacy centric individual :p feel free to live life however you so please.
 

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I am simply a tool, anything I say it's because it needs to be said.. I don't have any personal views, but I know if dash wants to be the type of company that puts soda machines in public places, then valuing users who are anonymous will need to be removed from the dash business model[/QUOTE]

This might sound crazy but some gov't entity might come along and even try to restrict how much soda one can purchase.... In that case you might want to remain anonymous or you might be breaking the law for buying too much soda......
 

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I am simply a tool, anything I say it's because it needs to be said.. I don't have any personal views, but I know if dash wants to be the type of company that puts soda machines in public places, then valuing users who are anonymous will need to be removed from the dash business model
This might sound crazy but some gov't entity might come along and even try to restrict how much soda one can purchase.... In that case you might want to remain anonymous or you might be breaking the law for buying too much soda......[/QUOTE]
This level of fear is guaranteed to end up in failure
 

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Snowden wasn't a bad guy, yet they are STILL trying to jail him.

Doesn't seem very fair to let the government decide who is good and bad, hence why we have courts.

Just trying to show you the way of the privacy centric individual :p feel free to live life however you so please.
Snowden is a bad guy for revealing the governments secrets, back in the day the sentence for such acts was simply death, but i guess the government figured out death was too harsh a punishment for a bunch of internet cry babies, most of which had broken familes
 

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Dash is perfect digital cash, without fungibility it cannot be money. Money has to be a medium of exchange, a unit of account, durable, divisible, portable and arguably most important of all fungible. Without fungibility the money loses it's capability of being mutually substitutable. Cash is fungible because if I lend you $10 you can pay me back with another $10 note you don't have to give me back the very same note that I lent you.

Fungibility is one of Bitcoins main downfalls. This is of course because it is so transparent thanks to the blockchain ledger. Any Bitcoins that have been used for criminal activities will therefore be worth less than a freshly mined Bitcoin. Because of this mixing services have been created in the hope to restore fungibility. The problem with this however is that any wallet address associated with said mixing services could be eventually ascertained and fungibility is once again lost. Because Dash has mixing on the protocol level this means that fungibility is certain. This privacy/fungibility is in my opinion the very reason why people whom have done their research should invest into Dash.
 
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Dash is perfect digital cash, without fungibility it cannot be money. Money has to be a medium of exchange, a unit of account, durable, divisible, portable and arguably most important of all fungible. Without fungibility the money loses it's capability of being mutually substitutable. Cash is fungible because if I lend you $10 you can pay me back with another $10 note you don't have to give me back the very same note that I lent you.

Fungibility is one of Bitcoins main downfalls. This is of course because it is so transparent thanks to the blockchain ledger. Any Bitcoins that have been used for criminal activities will therefore be worth less than a freshly mined Bitcoin. Because of this mixing services have been created in the hope to restore fungibility. The problem with this however is that any wallet address associated with said mixing services could be eventually ascertained and fungibility is once again lost. Because Dash has mixing on the protocol level this means that fungibility is certain. This privacy/fungibility is in my opinion the very reason why people whom have done their research should invest into Dash.
When I see the word "fungibility" I stop reading, to me that word is a scam, and I'm not saying that Dash is a scam, I'm saying that only a scammer would try to use the word "fungibility" with intent to convince me of something
 

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When I see the word "fungibility" I stop reading, to me that word is a scam, and I'm not saying that Dash is a scam, I'm saying that only a scammer would use the word "fungibility" to try to convince me of something
You stop reading cause it sounds to complex for you to understand the concept. Educate yourself. I didn't know what the word meant as well at first, but later managed to figure it out, and guess what, now I'm smarter. So much fun, my brain is like a super computer!!! ;)
 
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Snowden is a bad guy for revealing the governments secrets, back in the day the sentence for such acts was simply death, but i guess the government figured out death was too harsh a punishment for a bunch of internet cry babies, most of which had broken familes
By that same logic slavery was ok because the government said so at one point in time.

Can't have it both ways. Either the people know best or the government does.

Government's are naive, and need to be educated. Constantly. Our founding fathers even knew this, hence the declaration of independence and the constitution... :D

Us 21st century folk seem to keep forgetting such human rights exist.
 
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When I see the word "fungibility" I stop reading, to me that word is a scam, and I'm not saying that Dash is a scam, I'm saying that only a scammer would try to use the word "fungibility" with intent to convince me of something
The beauty of Dash is that someone can be anonymous, or completely transparent. The choice is up to the user, and that is where Dash has a leg up on the competition. There's a reason we call it "Digital Cash". Craig, if I go to your house and pass you a 20, does the government see that transaction? We are doing the same thing, only in a digital way. But again, you don't have to use that functionality, unless you want to. That is Dash's strength.

See, I didn't say fungibility, I'm not scamming you... :D Messaged you on Twitter, BTW.
 

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When I see the word "fungibility" I stop reading, to me that word is a scam, and I'm not saying that Dash is a scam, I'm saying that only a scammer would try to use the word "fungibility" with intent to convince me of something
fungibility is more than that,

1. say u are receiving coin that is bought from cryptsy, then after if collapse... ppl are demanding the coin be returned, as it was traced to you, you have to return it eventhough it wasnt your faulth.

2. other reason is that company that didnt want everyone know where they buy their supplies from and at what price because it was trade secret.
 
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The reason I made this video was from reading the replies in this forum post https://dashtalk.org/threads/poll-dash-direction.7789/#post-80670

I am simply a tool, anything I say it's because it needs to be said.. I don't have any personal views, but I know if dash wants to be the type of company that puts soda machines in public places, then valuing users who are anonymous will need to be removed from the dash business model
There are numerous examples where anonymity matters. For example, a woman might be living in a country where abortion is illegal. What's it like for her to buy a pregnancy test or to pay a doctor? Or maybe someone is in a safe house, hiding from a violent past?
 

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There are numerous examples where anonymity matters. For example, a woman might be living in a country where abortion is illegal. What's it like for her to buy a pregnancy test or to pay a doctor? Or maybe someone is in a safe house, hiding from a violent past?
she can get her abortion done without using dash to pay for it, any person who's life is fucked up can live that life without using dash, there are many many more happy normal people in the world than there are people with messed up lives... if dash wants to deal with bad/sad people then it's name should be darkcoin, not dash(digital cash)
 

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fungibility is more than that,

1. say u are receiving coin that is bought from cryptsy, then after if collapse... ppl are demanding the coin be returned, as it was traced to you, you have to return it eventhough it wasnt your faulth.

2. other reason is that company that didnt want everyone know where they buy their supplies from and at what price because it was trade secret.
all your egsamples deal with negative fearful situations, and that is not the way the REAL WORLD is.. the real world is much nicer than that, and that's where all the money is, the happy people have all the money
 

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The beauty of Dash is that someone can be anonymous, or completely transparent. The choice is up to the user, and that is where Dash has a leg up on the competition. There's a reason we call it "Digital Cash". Craig, if I go to your house and pass you a 20, does the government see that transaction? We are doing the same thing, only in a digital way. But again, you don't have to use that functionality, unless you want to. That is Dash's strength.

See, I didn't say fungibility, I'm not scamming you... :D Messaged you on Twitter, BTW.
the functionality being there will forever prevent dash from becoming main stream, and if dash does not care about the main stream then the soda machine was a waste of time and money
 

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By that same logic slavery was ok because the government said so at one point in time.

Can't have it both ways. Either the people know best or the government does.

Government's are naive, and need to be educated. Constantly. Our founding fathers even knew this, hence the declaration of independence and the constitution... :D

Use 21st century folk seem to keep forgetting such human rights exist.
As far as I know, slavery is just a story for me to believe in, and I don't believe in stories, I know my physical experience is true, and I have never experienced slavery, so it's a lie. The government in my life cares for me, using the story of society as a tool, so the government works for me, i don't work for the government, and i definitely don't fear the govenrment
 

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the functionality being there will forever prevent dash from becoming main stream, and if dash does not care about the main stream then the soda machine was a waste of time and money
in real world we dont see ppl walking around with transparent bag containing money either.
having said that, i think evolution may able to provide kyc if needed ?

option always a good thing, right ?
 

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You stop reading cause it sounds to complex for you to understand the concept. Educate yourself. I didn't know what the word meant as well at first, but later managed to figure it out, and guess what, now I'm smarter. So much fun, my brain is like a super computer!!! ;)
it should be very obvious by now that I am proud to be uneducated and not smart, I have not read a book since high school, that's over 20 years. What I need to know always reaches me in every moment, because I am dum.