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    I think what you're doing is a really cool idea, and I love that funding important foundations and philanthropic/environmental work is part of your vision. I also think your plan is pretty reasonable in how you're using the technology and integrating it all. My concern is just how many artists really want to take advantage of "chants" in their music. It may be simply because of the genres that I listen to--I have a pretty substantial music collection, though--but I don't recall this kind of contribution playing a major role in most forms of music, and on that point, I'm not sure how much use or interest your product would see by other artists on a large, widespread scale.

    So in other words, I love what you're doing and how you're facilitating it and your vision, but I'm just not sure that the product itself will be popular, or at least enough to justify this kind of expenditure. Do we have any market research available that suggests that this is likely to become widespread? I looked at your spreadsheets, but I'm not sure what your projections are based on. What makes the inclusion of crowdsourced audio more than just a gimmick? I can see a ton of downloads happening if some big name artist decides to implement this for a track or video or something and tells all their fans, but how do we know the likelihood of such an event?

    Without some semblance of knowing the odds there, it seems like a big gamble. Having the proposal broken down in to multiple months of funding and with escrow definitely mitigates a lot of that risk for us, but I think if there was more assurance on the projected popularity of the project, it would do a lot to assuage potential concerns MNOs might have.

    If you could address that, the rest of the project could definitely be a useful integration with a lot of great outcomes for all parties involved.
     
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    Thank you Santos, we have Green lit the escrow service through Dash core team- they have been really helpful. It has been useful receiving this initial feedback to refine the proposal. Hopefully you will like when you see next week. We've also had some more bands come on board and further gigs come in for in-house CHANT live testing band.
     
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    Hello, I have 3 things:

    -It's difficult to understand what the idea is about (is it a game? a store? charity?) . I think I kind of get it now, but it took too much effort. For this reason alone I would already not be inclined to vote.
    -I'm not able to see the appeal of this app. People will be submitting their voices for the artist to use in remixes? Won't this get old very fast?
    -The link with crypto and Dash is very thin, I don't think this proposal benefits Dash, not at this stage of your project.

    All the best!
     
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    Thank you, for reviewing our pre-proposal. As we move from pre-proposal to proposal we have simplified taking on-board communities comments- the final proposal and a short film will be uploaded soon. Agreed you should be able to GET this fast. Thanks for that observation.The app is a music retail outlet. Every time the Chants are used by musicians it comes back as a different mix so always new and exciting for the fan. The fan is interested in the engagement with the artists and finding out how their voices have been used and joining the community of other fans who have participated in the song. It is therefore always a unique experience as every song is produced differently. Uploading the voice creates sonic footprints and this changes every time. This creates a unique piece of artwork that can go on pieces of merchandise. You can literally wear your voice that has planted a tree. The benefits to Dash is you will be the preferred payment mechanism with an audience of potentially tens of millions of music fans globally. We see this as a long-term relationship as we are able to market your Dash and get Dash wallets out to potentially millions of people. We are both disruptive services and this common link can be strong- certainly growing as Chant delivers large-scale audiences for Dash. The Dash Community can help develop Chant and Chant can increase your community 's size..... I hope this helps answer your questions.
     
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    Hi Arthyron- thank you for your comment- much appreciate you like the vision. This is a new way of delivering music changing the fan from a passive recipient of music to a direct participant. This project is co-founded with Youth- Martin Glover- bass player killing joke- Producer Pink Floyd- Through the founder Daniel Morrell's work and Youth we have access to the Global artists and environmental communities. Have a look at the Chant Forest PDF above. We decided to go the cool credible route first. However, two years of artist interaction has delivered a strong pipeline. Major talent has seen they have a new instrument to play with- the audience. They love the creativity of this- their managers and Rights-Holders ( Record companies and Publishers ) also like being paid upfront avoiding piracy and low paying premium streaming services. Usually, a project like this will fail because the Publisher says no- uniquely we are not asking for royalty- we are merely a retail outlet that pays the publisher upfront. Steven Budd is the chairman of the music managers forum who is on our advisory board. He has taken this out too many artists managers. We have a commitment from a number of superstar acts. Because the mainstream and superstar talent is pipeline confidential it is difficult to post. If you would give me an email I would be happy to pop over Pipeline offline? The Thomas Newman- original producer of Tubular Bells- remix with Irish children is likely to be a big hit. Cold Cut the Orb and the egg has music ready and are small enough to not put off other major talents at the get-go.

    The artist community can be a cynical lot-a-bit like football teams with sharp elbows- they are liking the grassroots evolution of an art project. Major talent are looking for cool things that they feel proud to be associated with.

    If a Superstar act kick Chant off other artists might not feel they owned the initiative and could be put off. It's got to come from the bottom up in order to gain mass acceptance from talent. This is the reason for the Chant live show to test the concept. We have our own band that has done 23 gigs and performed at major festivals. This is created a cool and credible movement that other artists wish to join. Proof of this is through the roster of talent that has already participated is the band Chant live. - Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd, Micheal Jackson, Madonna) Youth (Killing Joke, The Orb, U2, Pink Floyd) Dave Barbarossa (Adam and The Ants, Bow Wow) John Moss (Culture Club, Clash, The Damned) Matt Black (Coldcut) Ned Scott/ Math Scots ( The Egg) Jack Jones ( Trampoline)


    Martin (Youth) Glover - is Chant co-founder, award-winning music producer ( Lifetime Achievement Award, Music Producers Guild, MPG). Youth has worked with Pink Floyd, The Verve, Paul McCartney, The Orb etc. He is a bass player and founding member of Killing Joke. Youth is a band member of the Firemen with Paul McCartney.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_(musician)

    The first band to test the app will be the Chant live band- we move from the existing analog collection of voices through microphones, to the digital format using the Chant app. We test this mechanism on ourselves. We then have 10 small to medium size acts that have already created or are creating music for us who will be the first releases. Following this, we moved to the pipeline of mainstream and superstar acts. Standing on the shoulders of these giants we can create a global community quickly. Some have found bases up in the tens of millions.

    For example, Lady Gaga has 32 million Twitter followers- Katy Perry has 60 million..... When artists such as this asked their fans to do things they tend to participate.

    We have an art aspect to the project. When Chant Live Gigs we create land art or graffiti. This is creating a great vibe around the music artist community and the growing movement. The idea is to create a movement rather than just a brand and Art is a good way to achieve this with Dash support. Two years of gigging an analog interaction have been really successful. The audience love to join a show. We are now ready to get going to the next phase. Extensive public relations/ performances/ art exhibitions/ festival interaction/ Live show and touring will be taking place over the coming years to build the movement. Chant Live will be performing at several major art galleries.

    The pro-social element is relevant/ everybody is a latent activist and is concerned about the environment. As a byproduct of purchasing your music, you're actively improving your local and global Community.

    Market research

    Extensive testing has been carried out through the live show. Do audiences like getting their voice in the mix? Absolutely!

    Apple iTunes- and the major publishing and record labels- Universal Music Group/ Warners/ Sony have been approached at board level. Their feedback has been positive all of whom are interested in finding ways to help promote the initiative. Apple/ iTunes has offered to feed in on testing for the user journey to the App Store with a view to promotion.

    Publishing and Record companies/rights owners see classic track and back catalog as a major sales channel for them through the Chant retail app. The fan will be able to Chant into their favorite classic song of all time. The price point can vary to be competitive with the other online retail outlets.

    The management of mainstream and superstar acts have been receptive and can show you this in the pipeline over e-mail. The artists like the financial model as they get paid for their products as opposed to the low-cost streaming services and piracy they suffer from hence the support we're getting from talent. Talent involvement is the real key- the fan is an abbreviation of the word fanatic. The fan band interactive relationship we have created is a powerful marketing tool.

    The pro-social element creates long-term communication. Your voice turns into a tree or cleans a river. The fan will be interested in updates on these pro-social spin-offs for years to come so Chant gives the opportunity for a long-term relationship.

    The artists have a new instrument to play with 'the audience'. Creatively they can do whatever they wish with these blocks of sound generated by the voices of the audience. The fan loves it as they get to join the band- the environment benefits as money goes to causes that the fans and the band have chosen together. It doesn't matter if the voices given are out of tune as we tune these to the key of the song.

    We have tested the concept with brand development companies, public relations firms and marketing agencies, again we continue to receive positive feedback.

    It is worth pointing out that all major acts have a pro-social cause they care about. The Chant app is non-competitive as the artist put their own causes through the app amplifying their existing good work. This has been a further good reason for major talent involvement. Over the last two years, most artists that we are approaching are saying they would like to do something with us.

    Telecom companies

    Telecom companies are interested in sponsorship opportunities. One major Telco has offered to pay £2 per upload of the fan voice into their favorite artist as a gift for customer retention. We have a relationship with the ITU- the international telecom union who will promote Chant to their global members- the telecommunications industry. At present, there are 2.5 billion cell phone connections globally. This will double over the next three years. Utilising the reach of the music and telco industries we access a global audience. Similar social media organizations have achieved this level of penetration.

    The United Nations have given us access to 30,000 indigenous youth groups.

    The market size

    The Live and recorded music industry. The global digital music market is worth $6.7 billion* *IFPI ( International Federation of the Phonographic Industry )

    Our target is over 100 million users in year two - the marketing is done by the talent.
     
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    Arthyron- To answer your point regarding the gimmick element- Every time the Chants are used by musicians it comes back as a different mix so always new and exciting for the fan. The fan is interested in the engagement with the artists and finding out how their voices have been used and joining the community of other fans who have participated in the song. It is therefore always a unique experience as every song is produced differently. Uploading the voice creates sonic footprints and this changes every time. This creates a unique piece of artwork that can go on pieces of merchandise. The app will mature as it gets out into the market and many different innovations will come back we are not even aware of right now as we get user feedback.
     
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    @Nick Chant -- Thank you for your very thorough responses, I think that sufficiently answered my questions and addressed my concerns. In terms of licensing, etc, what are the limitations of use by different artists? Suppose a recording is uploaded of a fan singing a song by Band A. Could another band (Band B) make use of that fan's "chant" even if it isn't from one of their songs? Suppose they do a "cover" of one of their songs, do they have access to it then? Suppose a fan uploads a contribution to Band A, but it gets used in Band B's song and that fan hates Band B or whatever? I'm just trying to understand who has the "right" to make use of fan's uploads and to what extent?
     
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    Hi Arthyron, The fan gives up their rights in our terms and conditions when they use the app. Each song or live gig has a profile on the app- the fan engages with this and gives their voices specifically for use in these projects- the rights belong to the Artist and associated rights owners. Other bands would be able to sample in the normal way with permission from and royalty payments to the original creators through the normal PRS channels. Best to see Chant as a retail outlet only.

    ( if Chant/ Dash wanted to get royalty back to fans as well we could turn the facility off on certain releases with rights holder permission as a further Dash promotion incentive to fans - but that's probably too much at this stage to go in too) …... We are walking before we start running...
     
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    If you would like to have a look at the testing band please see....www.chant.live - On our sound cloud link from this site you can hear audiences voices in songs too.
     
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    Hi TheSingleton- we have taken on your advice and reduced the amounts- we have also contacted the Dash core team and have escrow through them as you suggested. Have done quite a lot of work on the milestones - we look forward to hopefully being able to report back with exciting developments against the milestones you'll notice above. Dash will be the preferred payment mechanism. We will also promote Dash - one of the key things is that association with the artists would normally cost a significant amount and be quite difficult to negotiate. Through the Chant system by default Dash is linked. Please see further text describing the initiative below. This goes into some more detail regarding talent.


    This is a new way of delivering music changing the fan from a passive recipient of music to a direct participant. This project is co-founded with Youth- Martin Glover- bass player killing joke- Producer Pink Floyd- Through the founder Daniel Morrell's work and Youth we have access to the Global artists and environmental communities. Have a look at the Chant Forest PDF above. We decided to go the cool credible route first. However, two years of artist interaction has delivered a strong pipeline. Major talent has seen they have a new instrument to play with- the audience. They love the creativity of this- their managers and Rights-Holders ( Record companies and Publishers ) also like being paid upfront avoiding piracy and low paying premium streaming services. Usually, a project like this will fail because the Publisher says no- uniquely we are not asking for royalty- we are merely a retail outlet that pays the publisher upfront. Steven Budd is the chairman of the music managers forum who is on our advisory board. He has taken this out too many artists managers. We have a commitment from a number of superstar acts. Because the mainstream and superstar talent is pipeline confidential it is difficult to post. If you would give me an email I would be happy to pop over Pipeline offline? The Thomas Newman- original producer of Tubular Bells- remix with Irish children is likely to be a big hit. Cold Cut the Orb and the egg has music ready and are small enough to not put off other major talents at the get-go.

    The artist community can be a cynical lot-a-bit like football teams with sharp elbows- they are liking the grassroots evolution of an art project. Major talent are looking for cool things that they feel proud to be associated with.

    If a Superstar act kick Chant off other artists might not feel they owned the initiative and could be put off. It's got to come from the bottom up in order to gain mass acceptance from talent. This is the reason for the Chant live show to test the concept. We have our own band that has done 23 gigs and performed at major festivals. This is created a cool and credible movement that other artists wish to join. Proof of this is through the roster of talent that has already participated is the band Chant live. - Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd, Micheal Jackson, Madonna) Youth (Killing Joke, The Orb, U2, Pink Floyd) Dave Barbarossa (Adam and The Ants, Bow Wow) John Moss (Culture Club, Clash, The Damned) Matt Black (Coldcut) Ned Scott/ Math Scots ( The Egg) Jack Jones ( Trampoline)


    Martin (Youth) Glover - is Chant co-founder, award-winning music producer ( Lifetime Achievement Award, Music Producers Guild, MPG). Youth has worked with Pink Floyd, The Verve, Paul McCartney, The Orb etc. He is a bass player and founding member of Killing Joke. Youth is a band member of the Firemen with Paul McCartney.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_(musician)

    The first band to test the app will be the Chant live band- we move from the existing analog collection of voices through microphones, to the digital format using the Chant app. We test this mechanism on ourselves. We then have 10 small to medium size acts that have already created or are creating music for us who will be the first releases. Following this, we moved to the pipeline of mainstream and superstar acts. Standing on the shoulders of these giants we can create a global community quickly. Some have found bases up in the tens of millions.

    For example, Lady Gaga has 32 million Twitter followers- Katy Perry has 60 million..... When artists such as this asked their fans to do things they tend to participate.

    We have an art aspect to the project. When Chant Live Gigs we create land art or graffiti. This is creating a great vibe around the music artist community and the growing movement. The idea is to create a movement rather than just a brand and Art is a good way to achieve this with Dash support. Two years of gigging an analog interaction have been really successful. The audience love to join a show. We are now ready to get going to the next phase. Extensive public relations/ performances/ art exhibitions/ festival interaction/ Live show and touring will be taking place over the coming years to build the movement. Chant Live will be performing at several major art galleries.

    The pro-social element is relevant/ everybody is a latent activist and is concerned about the environment. As a byproduct of purchasing your music, you're actively improving your local and global Community.

    Market research

    Extensive testing has been carried out through the live show. Do audiences like getting their voice in the mix? Absolutely!

    Apple iTunes- and the major publishing and record labels- Universal Music Group/ Warners/ Sony have been approached at board level. Their feedback has been positive all of whom are interested in finding ways to help promote the initiative. Apple/ iTunes has offered to feed in on testing for the user journey to the App Store with a view to promotion.

    Publishing and Record companies/rights owners see classic track and back catalog as a major sales channel for them through the Chant retail app. The fan will be able to Chant into their favorite classic song of all time. The price point can vary to be competitive with the other online retail outlets.

    The management of mainstream and superstar acts have been receptive and can show you this in the pipeline over e-mail. The artists like the financial model as they get paid for their products as opposed to the low-cost streaming services and piracy they suffer from hence the support we're getting from talent. Talent involvement is the real key- the fan is an abbreviation of the word fanatic. The fan band interactive relationship we have created is a powerful marketing tool.

    The pro-social element creates long-term communication. Your voice turns into a tree or cleans a river. The fan will be interested in updates on these pro-social spin-offs for years to come so Chant gives the opportunity for a long-term relationship.

    The artists have a new instrument to play with 'the audience'. Creatively they can do whatever they wish with these blocks of sound generated by the voices of the audience. The fan loves it as they get to join the band- the environment benefits as money goes to causes that the fans and the band have chosen together. It doesn't matter if the voices given are out of tune as we tune these to the key of the song.

    We have tested the concept with brand development companies, public relations firms and marketing agencies, again we continue to receive positive feedback.

    It is worth pointing out that all major acts have a pro-social cause they care about. The Chant app is non-competitive as the artist put their own causes through the app amplifying their existing good work. This has been a further good reason for major talent involvement. Over the last two years, most artists that we are approaching are saying they would like to do something with us.

    Telecom companies

    Telecom companies are interested in sponsorship opportunities. One major Telco has offered to pay £2 per upload of the fan voice into their favorite artist as a gift for customer retention. We have a relationship with the ITU- the international telecom union who will promote Chant to their global members- the telecommunications industry. At present, there are 2.5 billion cell phone connections globally. This will double over the next three years. Utilising the reach of the music and telco industries we access a global audience. Similar social media organizations have achieved this level of penetration.

    The United Nations have given us access to 30,000 indigenous youth groups.

    The market size

    The Live and recorded music industry. The global digital music market is worth $6.7 billion* *IFPI ( International Federation of the Phonographic Industry )

    Our target is over 100 million users in year two - the marketing is done by the talent.
     
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    Hello! One suggestion, even so you put the link of the budget maybe you should make it more visible. It doesn't has to be the whole budget only something general and then you redirect to the link but something to show at first it's important, because it is quite an amount. Also, it is something the community already said, but consider scrowing your project bassically because it is a lot of money and MNO's trust it's important. Best of luck.

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    hi andrade92 thank you very much for youre kind remarks we will putup a ore detailed budget breakdown as suggested in final prposal. We have already regarded dash core regarding escrow and this should be up on the live proposal soon.
     
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    There is no real correlation between you app and dash, no matter how hard you try.

    You should come back for funding once you have millions of users and not the other way around.

    I dont see this getting much support.
     
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    Thank you for your comment- we will see overtime - however many of the musicians we work with have users in the millions. It is their user base that we will be accessing.
    Thank you for your comment. Our audience size comes from the artist community- they have they reach -. Hoping that the Community does like this. Kind regards Dan
     
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    Dear Dash community. Our proposal moves from Pre-proposal to proposal next week. Please see a brief preview of a film we made to communicate CHANT and Dash. Best wishes Dan

     
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    Hi Dash Community. Before CHANT here is an interview giving a little bit of background what I've been up too if anybody is interested in historic Journey. Dan

    http://www.ubraintv.com/watch.php?id=286
     
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    Till you have at least a 100,000-1M users for niche and random idea like this I dont see anyone voting for this.
     
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    CHANT stands on the shoulders of the fan bases of our musicians- it is their reach that counts not the Chant users. Four example iTunes Music sales is dependent on artists not on the platform.

    Tubular Bells sold 20 million albums worldwide- Cold Cut is a top 10 Band - Fans base 30 K - however it's close to 1,000,000 record sales over the years. The Orb music Fan 15 k - top 10 band with number ones . The Egg fans 1O k very cool band on the dance scene. This lot have already got music ready for us however our pipeline has medium size and super star acts. I think you'll see from the above figures that were probably already there in terms of potential audience reach responding to your figures.

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    Hi Dash Community-
     
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    Further Film on the Chant Live testing show -
     
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    Hi TheSingleton- I trust you are well- I thought it might be helpful to show you some background on historic work that Chant is now re-engaging with - it's a helpful calling card to have something already achieved at a similar level. Kind regards Dan
     
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    Also attached a short video explaining the relationship with Dash
     
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    Hi Arthyron thought you might like to see a short film we made regarding the relationship with Dash
     
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    @Nick Chant & @Daniel B J Morrell , Thanks for taking the time to put that together. I think the potential for use could be very high if it catches on with the right artists, and as soon as one big name uses it, that could spur others to use it, etc etc. One thing I might recommend since you took the time to make these videos, is to add them to the first post in your pre-proposals so those who are "late to the party" will have them to review right from the start. Good luck!
     
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    Thank you Arthyron- Will do this as suggested-

    The artist community can be a cynical lot-a-bit like football teams with sharp elbows- they are liking the grassroots evolution of an art project. Major talent are looking for cool things that they feel proud to be associated with. They don't like to see things other major talent has done. If a Superstar act kick Chant off other artists might not feel they owned the initiative and could be put off. It's got to come from the bottom up in order to gain mass acceptance from talent. This is the reason for the Chant live show to gain a talent pipeline and test the concept with live audiences. We have our own band that has done 23 gigs and performed at major festivals. This is created a cool and credible movement that other artists wish to join.

    Proof of this is through the roster of talent that has already participated is the band Chant live. - Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd, Micheal Jackson, Madonna) Youth (Killing Joke, The Orb, U2, Pink Floyd) Dave Barbarossa (Adam and The Ants, Bow Wow) John Moss (Culture Club, Clash, The Damned) Matt Black (Coldcut) Ned Scott/ Math Scots ( The Egg) Jack Jones ( Trampoline)

    The first band to test the app will be the Chant live band- we move from the existing analog collection of voices through microphones, to the digital format using the Chant app. We test this mechanism on ourselves. We then have 10 small to medium size acts that have already created or are creating music for us who will be the first releases. Following this, we moved to the pipeline of mainstream and superstar acts. Standing on the shoulders of these giants we can create a global community quickly. Some have found bases up in the tens of millions.

    For example, Lady Gaga has 32 million Twitter followers- Katy Perry has 60 million..... When artists such as this asked their fans to do things they tend to participate.

    Best wishes Dan
     
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    Arthyron,- after the CHANT live show releases the app first we have 10 bands in production. For e g - Tubular Bells sold 20 million albums worldwide- we have a remix of this composed by the original producer - Cold Cut a top 10 Band - Fans base 30 K - however it's close to 1,000,000 record sales over the years. The Orb music Fan 15 k - top 10 band . The Egg fans 1O k very cool band on the dance scene. This lot has got music ready for release.
     
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    Hi Santos - happy to pass on the proposal just went live - did you get a chance remark that we be helpful- https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-CHANT
     
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    Hi @Nick Chant,

    The Green Candle fee for escrow services is 5 Dash. This is the total fee (not a monthly fee). I believe you may have been viewing outdated information which is perhaps why you made the comment above. Please feel free to contact us at [email protected] if you wish to discuss this further.
     

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