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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by camosoul, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. TheDashGuy

    TheDashGuy Well-known Member

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    Links please. I provided mine. And you have provided nothing.

    So whos spreading FUD now?
     
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  3. camosoul

    camosoul Grizzled Member

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    Oh, can we please go to another show for no reason? See? A pattern of failure just because "we did that before, lets do it again!"

    It's not a matter of whether or not we can do X. It's a matter of whether or not X is a stupid thing to do.

    I can stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork for free! Or if you pay me 5000 DASH! But that doesn't make it a good idea.
     
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    I'll deal with you later. I'm trying to be helpful right now.
     
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  5. TheDashGuy

    TheDashGuy Well-known Member

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    By calling people out for saying how pointless the idea is and saying they are spreading FUD when actually I was being nice with how much a booth at CES is going to cost.

    You sir, are being useless, not helpful.
     
  6. HinnomTX

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    The Dash n' Drink has not yet been seen and dismissed by the vending machine vendors. You're getting ahead of yourself.
     
  7. camosoul

    camosoul Grizzled Member

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    It has nothing to do with vending machines. It's just a closed development platform that proved-out IX's potential. Why ignore that potential and get hung up on a stupid old box?
     
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    Think Big
     
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    Yea, but I don't think there are any soda machines on the island...
     
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    So you're suggesting him to go to CES with just a vending machine prototype?
     
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    No, what I'm suggesting is that we keep this conversation positive, CES is the big picture down the road, now let's figure out how we are going to get there.
     
  12. camosoul

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    No. The real world is the big picture. Not another nerd bubble.
    So? All this thing does is go "click" within a second of an IX being sent to it. The fact that that "click" is attached to a giant freezer box has nothing at all to do with it. Don't be so easily distracted by shiny things. It makes smart people wonder about you... ;-)
     
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    Obviously it's just a test mule. But you have to start somewhere. DASH is disruptive technology. It takes 20-30 minutes to explain WTF DASH is to somebody. You have to get somebody to want to use it. Vending machine merchants will want to use it for obvious reasons. Consumers will want to use it if there's a need for it on their side. Privacy is the other angle that will convince the consumer to use it. So the obvious, no, very obvious first choice is to build a marijuana vending machine.
     
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    I agree the real world is the big picture, but we don't even have enough funds for your real world picture, not even CES.

    People like big shiny things ;) The Dash Soda Machine was a magnet in Miami.
     
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    You are expecting children to think like adults. It's not going to happen, stop trying. Let them run around doing nothing and complaining about everything and just ignore them.

    I'm about to get a very large ignore list going it seems. Be constructive or gtfo.
     
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    Well that's kind of simple and I'm going to repeat myself...whatever...

    We get there by solving the technical problems in front of us, and developing proven prototypes for the various businesses to which Dash tech applies.
    Do you see the correlation between what I mentioned and the proposal being discussed?
     
  17. camosoul

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    I agree. So why won't someone put it in a store somewhere and hang around explaining it for a while? Post on a BITCOIN forum when you're going to be there to answer questions and demonstrate.

    "What's that thing?"
    "A vending machine that accepts DASH as payment."
    "What's DASH?"
    "Well, that's kind of a big question. Have you ever heard of Bitcoin?"
    "Yeah, wasn't that some online scam for drugs?"
    "Well, it wasn't meant to be, but that's how it ended up due to a lack of features that they refused to fix... DASH is about fixing those problems and making a currency that is actually useful!"
    "Hm, I'm skeptical... Prove it?"
    "You got $5?"
    "Yeah."
    "Give it to me and I'll give you the equivalent value in DASH on your smartphone."
    "Ok, where's the App?"
    "[show them where and install it]. Now push that receive button, let me scan that QR code that just popped up. Now, you give me $5, and I'll give you 1.2 DASH."
    "Wait, that's less than $5?"
    "Numerically, but dash is already worth 4x more than Dollars are, so that's how the exchange rate works."
    "I'm not so sure."
    "It's only $5, and I'll give it right back to you if you want. I'm not going to run off with 5 whole dollars man... I've got waaaayyyy more than that!"
    "OK. [Hands me $5]"
    "[I push send, his phone makes jingly sound.]
    "Oh cool! I have DASH!"
    "Now, see that same code on the machine?"
    "Yeah!"
    "Scan it, and send!"
    "It already says 'thank you!'"
    "Push a button!"
    "Mmmm, this Coke tastes good!"

    Is that really so hard?
     
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  18. TheDashGuy

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    Most of these people, wouldn't see the value of a project like this if it was slapping them in the face with profits. They need some "smart leader type" to tell them what to think, where to sit, and how to vote.
     
  19. camosoul

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    Naw man... You're just getting frustrated. I can show emotion but still think clearly. Most people can't do that and they assume I'm "off the chain." Projection of their own shortcomings, psychology 101.

    The most predictable thing about the neuro-typical is their ability to forget that I am not one of them... You must learn this ability. ;-)
     
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    If I can find someone in Seattle that would love to host this thing, i'd be there every chance I got giving presentations....

    HMM. How do I get this baby to Seattle from the opposite side of the US? What kind of store might this fit best in? Maybe a small mom and pop ice cream shop?
     
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    Respect to you, Camosoul, I was on the fence with you before but you have shown you're a man of action and not just words, the soda machine was beyond impressive, I admire creativity and smartness, thankyou very much and I hope you keep working this, you have my full support.
    Hugs from the UK, take care, byzzz :cool:
     
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    Fair enough, working on that part haha but I'm the type of person whos easy to get riled up if you know what buttons to press..
     
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    He sounds half Vulcan to me :D
     
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    Why not put it into an arcade machine, instead of the owner having to deal with tokens or tickets, he can have people load up on Dash to play the arcade games. And later they can pay with Dash to buy toys or use their Dash winnings.
     
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    See now there's some helpful feedback :p

    I'm going to see if I honestly can't find someone up here interested, I'd love to be able to go buy sodas for Dash..
     
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  27. camosoul

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    You don't have to! You can make one! Vending machines are everywhere.

    Check craigs list and ebay.

    Go the old fashioned route (which works best), look up vending machine repair businesses. They've always got something they'd be glad to part with... Especially one of these old single-price machines. Ante up the $200 it costs to buy it, and drag the sucker home. Grab your cheap-o wire brush set from China Freight, and you trusty old cordless drill, and get to scrapin'! Open it up, yank out all the bill/coin acceptor crap. Find some random junk to cover the holes. Mask off the buttons as best you can and squirt on some rattle can primer followed by rattle can paint. I got a shitty paint sprayer for $40, but I also already had a $1200 air compressor to hook it up to. You don't have to be that fancy tho. Hell, you just just leave it ugly if you want... But image does matter... 3 wires need to be connected to a relay. That relay conected to a Raspberry Pi. I send you a copy of this micro SD card's image. Bam. You're in business so long as there's nothing else wrong with your machine that needs fixing.
     
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    We could have made 10x Dash n Drink soda machines with the money we wasted on Miami bullshit... Every one of them hosted in a real-world location with a DASHer standing there a few hours a day explaining it to real people in real life... So easy... So cheap...
     
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    How about having people press the buttons on your very own DASH Soda Machine? How's that rile you up? I got yer back. We're doin' this.
     
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    If you want to write this up as a legit guide, i can make it pretty and have images to go with ti and we can host it as a how-to website to get people to start doing this...

    If I had space to tinker, I would definitely try it out. Seems like an incredibly fun project..

    But I should worry about getting a new place first... been staying with my girlfriend for over a week now.. xD