Slack Tipbot And Community Engagement

Solarminer

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A proposal was submitted to recognize hitting our 500th member in the public slack, the Dash Chat Slack. I would like to encourage everyone to think about this slack as a community engagement tool and a great way to get the community fired up about Dash.

Dashwhale: https://www.dashwhale.org/p/slack-tipbot-com-eng
Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15744282#msg15744282
Vote: dash-cli mnbudget vote-many 553c44e64d57972c5e05fb68aa4467da330715ef0dea8599d19296d6170ae1b0 yes

The public slack is now picking up members and becoming the face of the Dash community. We are over 500 members with 25 new members added each week. We have 12 technical support contacts acting as an around the clock help desk. We typically have over 15,000 messages each week. Slack is available on iphone, android, and browser which make communicating fast and easy in a chat like atmosphere. Slack also supports easy file uploads and integrations with twitter and reddit to put news all in one place.

A few unique aspects of our slack is that there are dedicated channels to budget proposals to help answer questions directly from the proposal owner. We have also had live podcasts where members could ask questions in real time. Many discussions have started projects like Canadash which will be a Dash accepting pop machine located in Canada. We offer a great way for miners and masternode owners to talk about pools or hardware settings and configurations.

After the community made suggestions from other successful sites that attracted users, it was determined that a bot that could tip and rain funds was key. Naruby created a tipbot for Dash with a little help from Moocowmoo on security. The tipbot can tip users, deposit, withdraw, provide Dash price in multiple currencies, and has a function to rain dash on all active users once it hits a certain amount. Recently, rain has been updated to sun for the summer. The tipbot is getting used with over 50 Dash per month getting tipped out. The plan is to add some security and features to make this bot work with other slacks and promote Dash further.

One of the Dash Detailed episodes talked about a Dash jobs section on the forum, and it is still blank. A few members have asked for certain features and have even pledged their own funds to make it happen. Effectively, the community has offered to create jobs for some smaller projects. We think the value of this slack to the community is growing and would like to offer incentives to members that contribute.

I will list a few successful activities.
  • Exodus Wallet skin - 10 Dash went to the winner. We had three very cool designs. Check out the wallet released as a 1.0 today. https://www.exodus.io/
  • Articles in Dashpaymazine.com are all community efforts. Most of the personally written articles were better than the paid articles from Vanbex.
  • Mining Channel - We helped many of the PinIdea customers fix miners. It is also a great way to optimize and try different settings. This real time discussion is helpful when solving problems.
  • Dashstore - We started talks to create a dashstore to sell shirts and merchandise.
  • Iphone wallet on App store - current bounty is 300 Dash - this is all from pledges. We have 2 developers discussion how to make a wallet that might get accepted. (Yes they are talking with Quantum Explorer, and waiting on existing wallet gets approved/rejected)
  • 2FA - Again we had a user looking into how to make this work.
  • We created the site http://www.dashnation.com/gigs/ to list current bounties and gigs available.
Tipbot – 25 Dash
Add key features to enable the @dashbot to be used on other slacks as a promotional tool.
  • Add cold wallet storage with hot wallet online with minimal funds.
  • Add multiple slack usage form the same wallet.
  • Server rental and maintenance.
Community Engagement – 200 Dash
  • A portion will be used for activities to gain community participation. Bounties will be used for innovate ideas and prizes will be provided for contests to engage community activity.
  • A small portion will go to the @dashrain or @dashsun to encourage new contributors and welcome people.
  • Donations will be given to support members answering questions on mining, masternodes, wallets, and general questions on slack, reddit, or other feeds in the support channel.
Total amount requested is 225 Dash per month for a 3 month duration.

Anyone that wants to check out the Dash Chat Slack, click here https://digitalcash.signup.team/
 

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I like this idea, look at steemit.com they give $10 to join up.... now I know it's $10 Steemit credits to give to others and it takes time to get your credits blah blah blah but long story short they are bringing in new users with this. They are getting more popular and people love to get something free especially when its something they are wanting to use or learn more about and talk about the technology more. We can do the same thing with slack and DASH. Giving people a place to go talk about DASH live is a great place to learn from each other and offer them rewards for going out and participation. Especially when you have trouble and need a little help it can be frustrating to wait a day or two for forum response. Think of this as building a decentralized helpdesk for DASH.
 

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this is a nobrainer....there are over 500 members and thousands of communications weekly, this is a great asset to add to the communications arsenal of DASH ......You have my votes
 

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The Dash Slack is 100% an integral part of the community. It is incredibly inclusive and promotes large trade if DASH tipping. Very, very active.
 

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I like this idea, look at steemit.com they give $10 to join up.... now I know it's $10 Steemit credits to give to others and it takes time to get your credits blah blah blah but long story short they are bringing in new users with this. They are getting more popular and people love to get something free especially when its something they are wanting to use or learn more about and talk about the technology more. We can do the same thing with slack and DASH. Giving people a place to go talk about DASH live is a great place to learn from each other and offer them rewards for going out and participation. Especially when you have trouble and need a little help it can be frustrating to wait a day or two for forum response. Think of this as building a decentralized helpdesk for DASH.
Exactly. We definitely don't tip people $10 just for joining, but people who start participating and contributing to the discussion do often get a little something.
One of the key goals of the public slack is to create an environment that is as welcoming as possible for everyone. Mods are tasked with greeting every new user and making sure they find exactly what they are looking for. We have found in recent weeks that a large number of new users are being brought in by watching @amanda_b_johnson's official DASH videos, and then are getting actually plugged in through the slack to learn about Dash, get support for mining, wallets and masternodes, finding ways to further promote Dash, ...etc. This dynamic is working extremely well. I am proud of everyone's time and resources that have gone into the slack already and am looking forward to taking it to the next level.
 

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Looks like this is going to pass which is great! Awesome work to the guys that help out over at that Slack channel, you guys are killing it over there.
 

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Looks like the Core of Corruption are at it again, doing everything they can to stop even the tiniest proposal that isn't theirs...
 

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Looks like the Core of Corruption are at it again, doing everything they can to stop even the tiniest proposal that isn't theirs...
I agree - burn motherf*ckers who dare to vote not the way you (and I) want! :mad:

And btw who are you talking about exactly? :rolleyes:
 

camosoul

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It's been fun logging MN IDs to keep track and deduce who owns which nodes.
I agree - burn motherf*ckers who dare to vote not the way you (and I) want! :mad:
Is that the narrative? How worn out can it get, considering I'm the one who called for it... A dead narrative from the get-go, but still keep pushing it... I think I made it perfectly clear, after seeing for myself the dirty dealings, and who was doing it... I don't want to be involved.
And btw who are you talking about exactly? :rolleyes:
I don't name names directly, because I think that would hurt the project as a whole. The presumptive narrative that I'm pushing my own agenda is typical polar-opposed straw man horseshit. I don't want to be directly involved. I've made that clear. Several people tried to get me to come back in. I don't want to because I've seen the dirty shit being played.

That means I AM getting my way. Duh.

I don't consider you one of the bad guys. I think the few dirty people are keeping their dirty shit between themselves. I know who they are. And, no, I have no intention of using it as leverage or anything else. I just wish others would start paying attention because it's painfully obvious. There's no way this shit would go unnoticed in any legitimate business with experienced people. But, that's the point, eh? Only here in crypto are there people clueless enough to let this kind of shit slide by... Those playing the games know that the victims are willfully blind fanboys.

I don't particularly care how the MNOs vote. They have no say in anything, anyway. Their votes are nothing but an indicator of how far out of touch with reality they are. I have no vested interest in any of the proposals, nor is the value of DASH in any way tied to them, since they have no bearing on the direction of the project! I just want to see the idiots grow up.

And just in case you didn't notice... If I voted with my nodes, which I don't, because PoS broken and you can't make me, I'd be upvoting this.
 

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Project Update - Month One:

Tipbot

@dashbot is getting a quiz feature added. Testing is in progress.
25 Dash were sent to @naruby for his work on the dashbot.

Community Engagement

15 Dash were sent to 10 mods for the work they do here. Creating conversation, tipping new people, welcoming new members, public promotions of Dash and this place, helping new users with questions and answers, providing resources for veterans and new users, among many other things. The moderators were given the choice to do whatever they want with the 15 Dash. @TroyDASH (gave 15 away) @alexander @splawik21 @buster (gave 15 away) @Solarminer @InTheWoods @dash_advocate (gave 10 away) @Dashmasternode (gave 10 away) @elishagh1 @Macrochip (gave 7.5 away)

Out of the 150 Dash given to moderators here, 57.5 were given away to fund the Redo of Dash Video Series by @amanda_b_johnson.
You can read about it here, http://www.dashnation.com/initiatives/dash-video-series-community-bounty-funded-2-hours/

Bounty for App Store Wallet
We had donations pledged from several users to encourage getting an iphone wallet on the App Store. Jaxx was the first one to meet the requirements and received 200 Dash compliments of @Dashmasternode, there are still bounties for 50 Dash (@pi) to get an App on the China App Store and another 50 Dash (@solarminer,@troydash,@dashadvocate) to add InstantSend. There are now 3 different developers attempting to get a wallet in app store with InstantSend. We believe this was fantastic success.

Dash Details

  • 15 Dash are held by @Solarminer to send funds at various times over the month to @dashsun
  • 5 Dash were refunded to @Solarminer from month one for the 5 dash proposal fee.
  • 17 Dash are allocated for three contests currently running, an Image contest, a Slogan contest, and Bumper Sticker Contest to further promote this slack, and in turn Dash. To learn more the contests go to http://dashchat.co/contests.html
  • 5 Dash are going to create a new reddit intro post which @Poltergeist has kindly taken upon himself to complete. He has already provided a rough draft and we plan on having something done by early or mid September.
  • 8 Dash are tentatively planned to order 1000 Bumper stickers with the design from contests above that can be handed out at shows or sold for Dash.
Buster created a website for the slack to make it easier for new users to find the slack. You can use this link to join or learn more, http://dashchat.co
 

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  • 17 Dash are allocated for three contests currently running, an Image contest, a Slogan contest, and Bumper Sticker Contest to further promote this slack, and in turn Dash. To learn more the contests go to http://dashchat.co/contests.html
I proposed a slogan for dash: "Vote the number".
Do you like it?

@Solarminer :
And who decides the winner(s) of the contest(s)? Ok I found it.
Solarminer said:
Like other slogans with the :like:emoji. The highest liked slogans will go to a final vote
Someone may creates many fake accounts in slack, and cheat in order to win the slogan contest. How do you plan to solve the fake account problem?
 
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Could part of the video redo make a direct and simple statement regarding the reasons and benefits to why DASH has chosen a steganographic form of TX obfuscation over a cryptographic one (Moore's Law, transparent, auditable, non-bloat, etc)? This could be a video of it's own. Maybe something already exists, but I don't seek out information I already have, so...

I think this message is getting lost. There are reasons. They are good reasons.
 
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Thee're going to hire you to @demo nstrate.
Actually, in order to prove the flaws of the rules of the contest, I challenged the slack admins.

I told them that I will subscribe fake accounts, I will vote for a slogan (different to mine of course). And then I will reveal the fake votes after the final result.

What was their response to the challenge? They denied my @demo nstation. They censored me!

Pathetic!
 
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One more "surprise" from "Dash Public Slack team"

(Quote from Dash Public Slack):
solarminer [11:53 PM]
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This slack has grown into something bigger than Dash. The three owners, buster, solarminer and inthewoods have decided to convert it to an altcoin slack. We have offered to give control to the Dash core team but they didn't have interest. We would be open to selling for 750 Dash if one or more owners desire to keep this as a Dash only slack. Otherwise, we will proceed on converting the slack to include the most innovative coins with instant and anonymous features. We understand this might be a big change, but we feel it is the best option to keep up with new technology.

Maidsafe, Zcoin, and Zcash will be the first coins we add. The bot will remain up and we will attempt to add other cryptos to it.
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Looks like a scam:

1. Have taken money from the Dash network on promotion of the community project,
2. Have used Dash community members for it's promotion, and ...
3. Then hijack grown project from the community.

@Solarminer Are you going to pay compensation to Dash network?
 

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One more "surprise" from "Dash Public Slack team"

(Quote from Dash Public Slack):
solarminer [11:53 PM]
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This slack has grown into something bigger than Dash. The three owners, buster, solarminer and inthewoods have decided to convert it to an altcoin slack. We have offered to give control to the Dash core team but they didn't have interest. We would be open to selling for 750 Dash if one or more owners desire to keep this as a Dash only slack. Otherwise, we will proceed on converting the slack to include the most innovative coins with instant and anonymous features. We understand this might be a big change, but we feel it is the best option to keep up with new technology.

Maidsafe, Zcoin, and Zcash will be the first coins we add. The bot will remain up and we will attempt to add other cryptos to it.
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Looks like a scam:

1. Have taken money from the Dash network on promotion of the community project,
2. Have used Dash community members for it's promotion, and ...
3. Then hijack grown project from the community.

@Solarminer Are you going to pay compensation to Dash network?
I concur. Please return all funds you have received from the network, and then do what you wish.
 

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I can't believe how ludicrously fast this Dash Public Slack initiative has degraded from something positive to all-out negative.
I'm surprised you do not include Monero in your little altcoin slack reorganisation, that would make it full circle.

I agree with alex-ru and David, please return all funds received from the network as this is a 180 degree turn on what the masternodes approved.
Damn, what a joke this is turning into ...
 

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I also think all funds need to be returned, either to the Core Team or a trustworthy member to use them to start a new Dash Slack.

If not, I would consider this a scam from the admins to get funding to build their channel and try and sell it off to the highest bidder.

Damn I knew it stank in there, but didnt know the poison ran that deep....

Kudos to the Dash Core team who always were professional in their responses and stayed well away from the slack!
 

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I can't believe how ludicrously fast this Dash Public Slack initiative has degraded from something positive to all-out negative.
I'm surprised you do not include Monero in your little altcoin slack reorganisation, that would make it full circle.

I agree with alex-ru and David, please return all funds received from the network as this is a 180 degree turn on what the masternodes approved.
Damn, what a joke this is turning into ...
it sux because i just got started on slack and now it's all but done. it was pretty negative there before but i bet it's going to get worse now. it's gonna be a dash bash fest all day now although it can't get much worse than it already was, we'll see.
hopefully someone will start a new dash only slack or something. it should only take a week or so for everyone to migrate to a new dash slack. whatever happens it needs to happen pretty fast imo.
anybody have plans to start a new slack?
 

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Yeah would be great to get a new dash slack which has the core team involved and get some new admins in there who wont let power get to their heads.

I am sure Amanda is waiting to join the new slack as well!

I just hope the scammers give the money back.
 

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Seems that Dash chat is for sale - asking price 750 Dash... lol, approx. USD 8,900

A new public Dash slack can be started for free - and administered properly - be more popular than the previous effort. I suspect someone with initiative, maturity and responsibility will step up and do that.

hehe, I wouldn't expect any funding will be returned...
 
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Seems that Dash chat is for sale - asking price 750 Dash... lol, approx. USD 8,900

A new public Dash slack can be started for free - and administered properly - be more popular than the previous effort. I suspect someone with initiative, maturity and responsibility will step up and do that.

hehe, I wouldn't expect any funding will be returned...
Buster just raised the price to 1,000! lol.

God knows what price it will be 2mw!
 

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One more "surprise" from "Dash Public Slack team"

(Quote from Dash Public Slack):
solarminer [11:53 PM]
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This slack has grown into something bigger than Dash. The three owners, buster, solarminer and inthewoods have decided to convert it to an altcoin slack. We have offered to give control to the Dash core team but they didn't have interest. We would be open to selling for 750 Dash if one or more owners desire to keep this as a Dash only slack. Otherwise, we will proceed on converting the slack to include the most innovative coins with instant and anonymous features. We understand this might be a big change, but we feel it is the best option to keep up with new technology.

Maidsafe, Zcoin, and Zcash will be the first coins we add. The bot will remain up and we will attempt to add other cryptos to it.
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Looks like a scam:

1. Have taken money from the Dash network on promotion of the community project,
2. Have used Dash community members for it's promotion, and ...
3. Then hijack grown project from the community.

@Solarminer Are you going to pay compensation to Dash network?
The DashChat public slack was created by community members and was run by volunteers for several months. We received two budget payouts that were used to pay moderators, provide promotions, etc. Read the last update here:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/report-dash-slack-budget-month-two.10864/

The same moderators and owners paid for the Dash School video series that Amanda produced. The key is that the budget paid people and activities that increased membership and users for Dash. How many people had a question answered from a moderator on the slack? How many people enjoyed having the media feed in the slack? How many people enjoyed the Dashbot? These were all items that improved awareness and contributed to growing Dash.

It is inconceivable that you can even call this a scam. The funds went to promotion for Dash exactly what was put as a goal for the proposal.

If the slack is no longer funded, there is no expectation for it to continue. We first asked if the core team was interested in purchasing the slack (no minimum price was provided). Now that look alike websites like dashchat.org have been registered, it appears that they are not interested and would rather will create their own.

We are choosing to add other promising cryptos to give us the opportunity for advertising and a long term funding model. If you can't understand how the real world works, that isn't my problem. No funds will be returned.
 

bertlebbert

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Yea, I don't think this was a scam as such, rather a project that is now taking a different direction. As for returning the funding? hehe, that's water under the bridge. I say good luck to the fellas in their future endeavors.
 

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Seems that Dash chat is for sale - asking price 750 Dash... lol, approx. USD 8,900

A new public Dash slack can be started for free - and administered properly - be more popular than the previous effort. I suspect someone with initiative, maturity and responsibility will step up and do that.

hehe, I wouldn't expect any funding will be returned...
Anyone is welcome to create a new slack. And it is true the plan is free, but the time to set it up, do integrations, come up with ideas to bring in members, find moderators you can trust and all that is a big task. 800 members is actually one of the larger crypto slacks. So I would say we were pretty successful in making it all work.

I was actually thinking the core team would just say they wanted to take it over and maybe change a few moderators. Actually, that still could happen if they act within the next couple days.
 

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I would call it a scam if you take 2 payments from the network (450 dash), then when you dont get the next payment, throw your toys out of the pram and try to sell it for 1000 dash profit.

Especially when its a free slack channel that didn't cost anyone a cent.

Sorry, thats nothing but poor taste and points toward a greedy scam to me. You used the networks money to grow the slack channel, then when you had enough you try and sell it for even more money? If we dont pay you will transform it into a generic slack.....classy!
 

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I wrote most of this up last night and finished it up today before the bottom fell out of slack. It summed up my feeling at the time so i'll go ahead and post it....



It's sad to see this proposal fail but maybe it's for the best right now. maybe it can be reborn and reorganized with a few changes in the mod department and a adjustment in the funding.

I've just recently gone all in on slack and really love it, minus all the anti-dash drama of course. Most of mods have been very helpful with tech questions and other questions. Initially I had some issues with itw who personally attacked me and censored me for simply asking a question about the dashbot, but besides that it's been fun and exciting. A little drama is good but a lot of drama is bad.

All that said I don't think slack is worth $2500+ a month just for a bunch of people to sit around and chat “most” of the time. Is it worth half that or more? Yes, I think so. It was very helpful to me and I saw ABJ and others come in a few times and immediately get lots of answers and help with questions. I think it was Evan that talked about a 24hr phone line and irl dash branch offices where people could come get help and stuff and I think slack is the online version of that. However changes need to be made to make it more friendly. One of my first real visits there was a bit unpleasant because of itw (and buster, but buster apologized when I called him out so I think we're cool?) and I remarked that “this place is scary”. I just recently saw another member say slack was scary too, that's not good folks, that's scary for the dash brand.


Thanks for all your help solarminer and please don't take my constructive criticism the wrong way, you created a great thing, it just needs a few tweaks is all. Rant off ;)



ghes [Yesterday at 9:24 PM]
I would like to see this channel be nicer for new comers and how dash is a great community. I joined yesterday and I am scared.
Posted in #dash_chat
 
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Anyone is welcome to create a new slack. And it is true the plan is free, but the time to set it up, do integrations, come up with ideas to bring in members, find moderators you can trust and all that is a big task. 800 members is actually one of the larger crypto slacks. So I would say we were pretty successful in making it all work.

I was actually thinking the core team would just say they wanted to take it over and maybe change a few moderators. Actually, that still could happen if they act within the next couple days.
Why can't you just hand it over to someone like Amanda? Or another community member?

You guys did use network funds to build the channel, and it was another network funded project (dash detailed) that attracted most of the new users.

It feels like you are holding a dash community asset hostage.

I voted for for the slack channel on every occassion, but i did so in the reasonable expectation that the funds were building a community platform that would be around for a long time.

Not a platform that would be used for someones personal use whenever the current custodians didnt get their way.

I dont think u guys are scammers, but if u have had enough of the project then maybe u shud pass on the batton to someone else.
 

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I would call it a scam if you take 2 payments from the network (450 dash), then when you dont get the next payment, throw your toys out of the pram and try to sell it for 1000 dash profit.

Especially when its a free slack channel that didn't cost anyone a cent.

Sorry, thats nothing but poor taste and points toward a greedy scam to me. You used the networks money to grow the slack channel, then when you had enough you try and sell it for even more money? If we dont pay you will transform it into a generic slack.....classy!
LOL. Get real. Most of the projects that are funded would need to do the same then. How about the Lamassu Compatible Software proposal? Now every machine needs to returned for the paid software version to payback the budget funds. Or TigoCTM - startup funded by the same project. Should they give over their assets to the foundation? Does Ira now need to return funds because he can now run a profitable business with the startup capital from the budget system?


You can try to call a real project a scam, but it is pretty obvious you are just spreading fud.
 

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I have to agree that the comments in the slack channel lately have been very toxic and is not good for any community.

For newcommers to the slack it's like jumping in to a civil war on there and all you read is negative comment after negative comment. It's Just not a good vibe.

There's no value in reading negative comments day in day out and it's to the point where I have now signed off.

Having said that when I first joined it had a really great vibe about it and the people there were very helpful and the discussions people were having were of value. That has somehow deteriorated over that last 2 months which is a shame.

That goes to show that you gain votes and lose votes very quickly.
 
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