Rebranding Followup

Vyazhan

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I'm sorry, but I just can't see how a name change, something discussed for a YEAR, is 1. so shocking and 2. changes anything important about Darkcoin?

We have had so much negative feedback regarding our name, Darkcoin. Andreas Antonopoulos talks about Darkcoin as if it's threatening, dark and scary. It can't shake it's nefarious undertones. This puts us in a VERY limited niche market. This was never my hopes for this coin.

A name change can only move us forward. If the name is so important that people would rather this fantastic project - with so much to give the world - should languish rather than flourish under a "cool" name, well then I give up. And I wouldn't blame Evan for giving up either. Why put your whole being and all your efforts into something you had hoped would change the world, when your very supporters want to marginalize your project?
Well hello there name change? I haven't heard any official news at all that we needed a name-change? On every channel I lurk there wasn't an info about this other than in the official announcements that popped into my RSS feeder a few days ago, so how exactly is this being discussed for a year Tante?

It was never in the interest of the community to have sudden changes emposed on them like in the current financial system, or am I wrong? Did such steps taken by the governing authorities not ruin enough coins already? (Vericoin rollback to name a good example).

This is a HUGE move for DRK to change it's entire entity and seeing how supposedly Evan has already signed deals and contracts for dash, how can this help DRK in any way, shape or form?

You might have just as well folded the only escape route DRK would have had in the future, which is the Anonymity that speaks for itself, DARKcoin namely :)
Anyways, I personally as a member of this community do not agree that a name change will move us any closer to any goal that was openly discussed than before, come what may in the future, DRK was always the 1st anonymity coin people went to, this might very well change in the future due to poor exposure or sacrifices.

All the best,
Vya
 

AndyDark

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Well hello there name change? I haven't heard any official news at all that we needed a name-change? On every channel I lurk there wasn't an info about this other than in the official announcements that popped into my RSS feeder a few days ago, so how exactly is this being discussed for a year Tante?

It was never in the interest of the community to have sudden changes emposed on them like in the current financial system, or am I wrong? Did such steps taken by the governing authorities not ruin enough coins already? (Vericoin rollback to name a good example).

This is a HUGE move for DRK to change it's entire entity and seeing how supposedly Evan has already signed deals and contracts for dash, how can this help DRK in any way, shape or form?

You might have just as well folded the only escape route DRK would have had in the future, which is the Anonymity that speaks for itself, DARKcoin namely :)
Anyways, I personally as a member of this community do not agree that a name change will move us any closer to any goal that was openly discussed than before, come what may in the future, DRK was always the 1st anonymity coin people went to, this might very well change in the future due to poor exposure or sacrifices.

All the best,
Vya
Bitcoin is the number one coin for anonymity (with mixer service) by 100 miles, darkcoin hardly penetrated darknet, just like it hardly penetrated any merchants or businesses (although the tech is way better for Dark obviously) - like Evan and many merchants here said, the name is unfriendly and they not interested. Darkcoin has only been successful with core of investors not anywhere in the market. That's where DASH aka digital cash comes in :D
 
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chatterbox

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Sir... A rebrand must happen. Read any of my previous posts as to why this should have happened long ago... Back in Feb/Mar of last year....even.

Edit: Some of the greatest brands are simple names

Apple
VISA
FIAT
RAM
to name a few....
You are late to the thread. I already switched sides. Nice try.

Rebranding Followup
I could get on board with the name I think after that argument but I have one question--is DRK moving to be more centralized or decentralized? I'm confused.



Good argument. You finally won me there.
 
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Vyazhan

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Bitcoin is the number one coin for anonymity (with mixer service) by 100 miles, darkcoin hardly penetrated darknet, just like it hardly penetrated any merchants or businesses - like Evan and many merchants here said, the name is unfriendly and they not interested. Darkcoin has only been successful with core of investors not anywhere in the market. That's where DASH or digital cash comes in :D
Well, I beg to differ, one market has already invited DRK in and I think it's only the beginning of everything, why change for the sake of some quick buck when the long term goal is what really counts?

Anyways, I learned very early that discussing such things with authorities NEVER works, so I for one, will be trashing my 2 Bitkee DRK Storages and throw them away and sell my DRK for some genuine coin that respects the people and their voice in a fair and democratic way instead of just being all childish and doing whatever a single individual pleases to do.

The cool thing about the Crypto-Space is that you don't need to stay, I wish we would have the same options in the current fiat market :D

See you on the other side,
Vya
 

AndyDark

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Well, I beg to differ, one market has already invited DRK in and I think it's only the beginning of everything, why change for the sake of some quick buck when the long term goal is what really counts?

Anyways, I learned very early that discussing such things with authorities NEVER works, so I for one, will be trashing my 2 Bitkee DRK Storages and throw them away and sell my DRK for some genuine coin that respects the people and their voice in a fair and democratic way instead of just being all childish and doing whatever a single individual pleases to do.

The cool thing about the Crypto-Space is that you don't need to stay, I wish we would have the same options in the current fiat market :D

See you on the other side,
Vya
I would urge you to sleep on it a few days and read all the comments as to why this is beneficial, we all love Dark and its a big step but theres a lot more going on here than changing a name, this is about how the tech can enter the market and deliver anonymity and what experience the team have had trying to do that with the current name and how we can make it better
 

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Anyways, I learned very early that discussing such things with authorities NEVER works, so I for one, will be trashing my 2 Bitkee DRK Storages and throw them away and sell my DRK for some genuine coin that respects the people and their voice in a fair and democratic way instead of just being all childish
Vya
Actually your knee-jerk reaction is childish and without trying to have a discussion you ensure your defeat.
 

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dazbarldy over at BCTtalk took some (very slight) suggestions from me. What do you think of this?

Inverted C, with the morse code screaming financial SOS, at the same time like a smoke trail from the speed of IX

I think the concept is becoming magical.

This is what I was saying earlier. At first it's sort of blah. Then you think about it, and the more you think about it, the more sense it makes.

Digital Cash
Implies speed (InstantX)
Easy to say & remember
Innocuous enough for mainstreaming

Apple Pay, Mega, Square, Yelp, Nest, Uber - huge brands with boring names. I'll say it again, sentimentality is getting in the way of good sense here.
 
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Vyazhan

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Actually your knee-jerk reaction is childish and without trying to have a discussion you ensure your defeat.
I wouldn't call my reaction knee-jerk but rather just a genuine disapproval of how this entire scenario was handled. First of all, where is a genuine vote that the majority of stakeholders want to have a name-change? Then we could actually move on and discuss a name change officially. Instead, you hear from all kinds of different sources what is happening and this is very chaotic and doesn't help to find out what actually happened when you only have a few minutes per day to check the crypto-space, its outright wrong to pursue a discussion when all you hear from the official channel is that it has been discussed (I think yidakee already voiced his concern about this) and I for one, do not have the time for such drama and therefore stick to the roots of my own love that I share for cryptocurrencies and their democratic, decentralized and fair nature :)

Anything else is a waste of time :) Abuse of Power happens once, it happens ALL the time, history always repeats itself with power-hungry people!

All the best,
Vya
 
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i dont think it's important because dashcoin has like $0.03 volume per day
I guess not everyone has had a chance a to read the 5000 posts of this discussion, but Evan bought Dashcoin(DSH) and the rights to "Dashcoin". Just like you would buy an existing domain, and there will be no more development on that project. We just bought it for the name, and to make sure we had prior art when we do trademarks and such.
 

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I guess not everyone has had a chance a to read the 5000 posts of this discussion, but Evan bought Dashcoin(DSH) and the rights to "Dashcoin". Just like you would buy an existing domain, and there will be no more development on that project. We just bought it for the name, and to make just we had prior art when we do trademarks and such.
sorry, I missed that. nice to know things were tidied up. The name DASH definitely grows on you, v exciting, thanks.
 

chatterbox

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I guess not everyone has had a chance a to read the 5000 posts of this discussion, but Evan bought Dashcoin(DSH) and the rights to "Dashcoin". Just like you would buy an existing domain, and there will be no more development on that project. We just bought it for the name, and to make sure we had prior art when we do trademarks and such.
But Dashcoin will be chopped to just DASH for us, right?
 

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DASH sounds bad. I can't just go to people and ask "Do you accept dash?" They will think I am on drugs or something.

eMoney is probably one of the best choices.
 
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This logo is really cool. Forget dash as the brand name. Just D is great!

This is what we need

D : Digital Cash XDD
XDD ticker symbol

The XDD is an OPEN ticker and currency symbol that can be merged into mainstream usage
(at least from what I can find)


X = Xcoin
D = Darkcoin
D = Digitial Cash

Long live the D !!!
Long live Digital Cash !!!
 

Dunedoo

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This is what we need

D : Digital Cash XDD
XDD ticker symbol

The XDD is an OPEN ticker and currency symbol that can be merged into mainstream usage
(at least from what I can find)


X = Xcoin
D = Darkcoin
D = Digitial Cash

Long live the D !!!
Long live Digital Cash !!!
I like it ( but it is clear that the communities voice and opinion doesn't matter)
 
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DASH sounds bad. I can't just go to people and ask "Do you accept dash?" They will think I am on drugs or something.

eMoney is probably one of the best choices.
If I was doing a rebrand, I would've spent money on marketing researchers to put the brand name through its paces
 

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Some words created for you.
If you don't like them, try again!

The Word Mixer has spoken!
But only you can judge if it has spoken well.
You posted these words to the form for Naque to mix and match for you.
  • digital
  • cash
  • dark
  • coin
  • x11
Through some magic hand waving, here are your Word-Mixed results. A whole bunch of new unique words (or unique names) that you can use! If you like what you see, you owe us a post in the Naque Forum!

Two Syllables
Three Syllables


  1. ashgit
  2. arkdi
  3. diin
  4. coinash
  5. daark
  6. aldig
  7. coinark
  8. coal
  9. digca
  10. digal
  11. coinal
  12. coial
  13. dartal
  14. dardar
  15. dital
  16. darash
  17. casgi
  18. darktal
  19. coica
  20. taig
  21. ashoi
  1. dagitark
  2. caitark
  3. asitoi
  4. arkdarkgit
  5. aldicas
  6. gidarkdark
  7. digasark
  8. inashgit
  9. coigitin
  10. dargitin
  11. darkittal
  12. cashdiar
  13. darkigal
  14. coinarash
  15. coitain
  16. coinitin
  17. coingiash
  18. dargiark
  19. darigca
  20. cashastal
  21. codigit
  22. daaral
  23. casigark
  24. astaoi
  25. casoiark
 

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I wouldn't call my reaction knee-jerk but rather just a genuine disapproval of how this entire scenario was handled. First of all, where is a genuine vote that the majority of stakeholders want to have a name-change? Then we could actually move on and discuss a name change officially. Instead, you hear from all kinds of different sources what is happening and this is very chaotic and doesn't help to find out what actually happened when you only have a few minutes per day to check the crypto-space, its outright wrong to pursue a discussion when all you hear from the official channel is that it has been discussed (I think yidakee already voiced his concern about this) and I for one, do not have the time for such drama and therefore stick to the roots of my own love that I share for cryptocurrencies and their democratic, decentralized and fair nature :)

Anything else is a waste of time :) Abuse of Power happens once, it happens ALL the time, history always repeats itself with power-hungry people!

All the best,
Vya
I agree, this is a subversion of power, the Masternode holders were never consulted, they are the backbone of Darkcoin, it should be put to a vote, 1 darkcoin per masternode and let the community decide in a fair way.
 
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I agree, this is a subversion of power, the Masternode holders were never consulted, they are the backbone of Darkcoin, it should be put to a vote, 1 darkcoin per masternode and let the community decide in a fair way.
How was it unfair? Are you saying unfair simply because you are late to the change discussion or unfair because you can prove something?
 

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Dash in the middle is indeed a touch of genius. While I still dislike the word, I fell in love with this graph :)

Alas, I would not jump that fast on the "Digital Cash" train as something special. At least 90% - 95% of the fiat money in the world is digital cash, if one measures M1, M2, M3. Check out:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/about.htm and if we'd ponder the "value" of derivatives in the world, as published by the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) @ http://www.bis.org/statistics/derstats.htm we'd see a staggering number of $691 TRILLIONS in mostly "digital cash" or at least its derivatives presented in US dollars, which dwarfs any "real" paper money or coinage.

So, "digital cash" is nothing new or special and could be mocked like in, these weirdos are inventing the wheel and have no clue what they are talking about.

Darkcoin is the "privacy centric cryptographic currency" as eduffield has written in his original White Paper.
 
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Dash in the middle is indeed a touch of genius. While I still dislike the word, I fell in love with this graph :)

Alas, I would not jump that fast on the "Digital Cash" train as something special. At least 90% - 95% of the fiat money in the world is digital cash, if one measures M1, M2, M3. Check out:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/about.htm and if we'd ponder the "value" of derivatives in the world, as published by the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) @ http://www.bis.org/statistics/derstats.htm we'd see a staggering number of $691 TRILLIONS in mostly "digital cash" or at least its derivatives presented in US dollars, which dwarfs any "real" paper money or coinage.

So, "digital cash" is nothing new or special and could be mocked like in, these weirdos are inventing the wheel and have no clue what they are talking about.

Darkcoin is the "privacy centric cryptographic currency" as eduffield has written in his original White Paper.
the average person doesn't know what a derivative is and had no contact with digital cash yet. I think it would be easier to explain to people than bitcoin which is quite hard sometimes... 'Dash?...it's digital cash...'