Proposal: Hiring of Top-level Dash Chief Marketing Officer (CMO)

dashdisciple

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I'm not sure if you can change it in DC, but if he changed it here (Which he definitely can) Core will have a way out to ignore a positive vote and do what needs to be done.
I personally think it's an excellent idea and hate the controversy.
However voting yes for it, as it stands, is dangerous:

" Dashdisciple, in combination with the DashTreasury.org team, will ... locate potential candidates. "
It will mean a couple of anonymous guys will choose one of the most important positions in Dash.
Dashdisciple promised to “ I will not interfere or get in the middle.”, but the proposal has not changed. He has been asked a number of times to change it, but has still not done so.

Some implications:
If it passes as is, the community and Core can hardly let them go ahead and choose a $200, 000 dollar person who will have immense power in shaping the future direction of Dash.
Which means Core will have to ignore a valid MNO vote.

This will open a can of worms:
Our governing system will become a joke and if this gets into the press…?

All that daschdisciple has to do is amend “How will this magical CMO be found?” here, as promised, and the problem will disappear, but so far he’s ignored this request.

I expected a flood of yes votes, but this is not happening - I suspect the MNO's have the same problem with the proposal. Remove those offending lines and it will sail through to the benefit of Dash. (In my personal opinion ;))
Despite the error in the PEC report, I am not the proposal owner on this one (DashTreasury is). I have rescinded my offer to assist with recruitment here officially, and I've done the same thing on DashCentral and at https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-2010.prop.

Please keep in mind that DashTreasury offered me up only to assist, but that the MNOs always had the "carte blanche" to pick the CMO, not any individuals. (Recruitment is a nasty, time-intensive job, which is why we didn't want to put up a plan without backing it up with some donated resources of our own.)

I'll put the CMO governance question here again to re-iterate. This is what is being voted on, the rest are logistics:

"We would like the Dash DAO to begin the immediate search and recruitment of a high-level Chief Marketing Officer, to be paid entirely in Dash, by the Dash DAO. Vote in favor of this proposal if you agree that the Dash DAO should begin this recruiting process."
 
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Tallyho

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Despite the error in the PEC report, I am not the proposal owner on this one (DashTreasury is). I have rescinded my offer to assist with recruitment here officially, and I've done the same thing on DashCentral and at https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-2010.prop.

Please keep in mind that DashTreasury offered me up only to assist, but that the MNOs always had the "carte blanche" to pick the CMO, not any individuals. (Recruitment is a nasty, time-intensive job, which is why we didn't want to put up a plan without backing it up with some donated resources of our own.)

I'll put the CMO governance question here again to re-iterate. This is what is being voted on, the rest are logistics:

"We would like the Dash DAO to begin the immediate search and recruitment of a high-level Chief Marketing Officer, to be paid entirely in Dash, by the Dash DAO. Vote in favor of this proposal if you agree that the Dash DAO should begin this recruiting process."
Thanks for clarifying @dashdisciple. Are you able to do this??

All that daschdisciple has to do is amend “How will this magical CMO be found?”
 

Biltong

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Thanx Dashd...
That makes your position clear, but the offending lines are still there and your name still features prominently.
Nothing has changed in the proposal.
Might be a good idea to talk to Dashtreasury?
BTW: No error in the report: We use the name of the person who posts the proposal, which was you.
 

solarguy

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There will a response to many questions from this thread soon. Core Team works on many things in parallel at the moment and our presence on the forum is limited due to the amount of work (and issues connected with them [emoji4]).
Please be patient.
That sounds like we will get meaningful feedback to influence the current voting cycle.
Looking forward to the additional information.
Yes, we recognize that the Core Team has 87 important things going on at the moment.
 

dashdisciple

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I think we're fast approaching a scenario where the rigidity of the PEC process could potentially cause much more harm than good. This may be a good opportunity to consider PEC's mission.

(Does the PEC committee evaluate proposals based on metrics that would help Dash, or is this unintentionally going in the direction of a standard bureaucracy - similar to the pitfalls of standardized testing). I don't mean for this to be an inflammatory statement, but this type of rigidity can be more than a simple hassle - it can damaging to Dash.

The PEC process has rated the branded sailboat proposal at 91%, Peter Eralith's professional video and youtube advertising proposal at 66%, and the hiring of a professional CMO at 0%. Is this how a rational veteran business person would also rank these proposals, or is the PEC already leading the MNOs in a harmful direction?

The CMO vote we're all discussing here is very clearly to see if the MNO's would like to hire a CMO. It has to nothing to do with me, abob54, or DashTreasury, aside from the fact that we paid to post the proposal, and provided an outline that anyone can use. If the MNOs can find and hire the right CMO, we might all be able to kill a lot of birds with one stone. If we trust the integrity, skill and judgment of the CMO that the MNOs hire - is it possible that we can unite and move on from this temporary treasury evaluation dilemma immediately?
 
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Tallyho

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I assure you I'm as keen to get past this block as you are :) I'm certainly not aiming to make this any more difficult than it already is, in fact the whole idea is to facilitate. To answer your question, the key is in the question:

Does the PEC committee evaluate proposals based on metrics that.....
(my bold)

The PEC committee evaluates PROPOSALS, not the comments posted after proposals nor statements posted elsewhere on the web. It's the proposal itself that will be saved on the blockchain and that is the closest thing to a contract the Dash governance system has at this time. I am perfectly satisfied with the comments you have made. I am only asking that you fix the conflicting details in the proposal (I'm pretty sure text can be added to proposals after submission) and the pre-proposal (by editing the first post in this thread) in order to avoid any risk of you being held to obligations that you have already stated you have rescinded.

That really is all :)
 

dashdisciple

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I assure you I'm as keen to get past this block as you are :) I'm certainly not aiming to make this any more difficult than it already is, in fact the whole idea is to facilitate. To answer your question, the key is in the question:


(my bold)

The PEC committee evaluates PROPOSALS, not the comments posted after proposals nor statements posted elsewhere on the web. It's the proposal itself that will be saved on the blockchain and that is the closest thing to a contract the Dash governance system has at this time. I am perfectly satisfied with the comments you have made. I am only asking that you fix the conflicting details in the proposal (I'm pretty sure text can be added to proposals after submission) and the pre-proposal (by editing the first post in this thread) in order to avoid any risk of you being held to obligations that you have already stated you have rescinded.

That really is all :)

Thanks, Tallyho. As you've requested, I've made that update to the first post in this discussion, and I'll try to have the same update made elsewhere.

To clarify, there is no official proposal description text saved to the blockchain. The information about a proposal that is attached to the blockchain is:

-Payment amount of proposal
-Start date of proposal
-End date of proposal
-Abbreviated title of proposal
-Payment address of proposal owner
-URL of proposal
 

TroyDASH

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@dashdisciple now that you have stepped aside on the recruitment process, we are left with an open ended situation where we need to re-answer the "where does this magical CMO come from?" question. If this proposal passes, what would be a reasonable way forward? Is the core team willing to handle the recruitment process, or is there someone else?
 
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Tallyho

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Thank you @dashdisciple!

In view of your update:

I am officially rescinding my offer to help with recruitment (as stated in the proposal), and the same goes for @abob54. If there's any specific nuts and bolts help or advice we can offer when it comes time to recruit, we can be available to whichever trusted Dash member heads up this task, but for the good of Dash and our desire to see top marketing talent working for Dash, we will not get between the MNOs and the candidate.
I now consider the issue resolved. I understand this proposal to be an opinion poll on this question:

We would like the Dash DAO to begin the immediate search and recruitment of a high-level Chief Marketing Officer, to be paid entirely in Dash, by the Dash DAO. Vote in favor of this proposal if you agree that the Dash DAO should begin this recruiting process.
As such I consider this to be a survey proposal and therefore outside the scope of the PEC.

I shall remove my report immediately, which I hope will enable MNOs to move on and concentrate on the real issue at hand.

Thank you for your cooperation and happy voting!