Pre-Proposal Zero Waste Protocol

[wizofreuse]

Greetings, my name is John Bushe. I am a Zero Waste specialist, which is a goal being adopted by cities and businesses all over the world. GM save billions at it's over 200 manufacturing facilities. We have gone through an incubator program in Dallas Texas and recently won 2nd place at an iot hackathon with our "smart dumpster" , which tells you when it is full utilizing sonar. I recently was able to install linux onto old PC's and mine DARK with it which totally impressed me!

Excerpt from White Paper:

The intention of this protocol is to reduce trash collection costs and harness the abundant discards currently being wasted to create a new “resource-based” economy. This protocol will reduce waste costs by automatically ordering the collection of discards/resources from the least expensive service only when the container is near full. It will then track and verify that the discards, conventionally sent to disposal facilities, are redirected to third party destinations by providing incentives for diverting the 12 categories of waste defined by Dr. Dan Knapp of Urban Ore in Berkeley, California. All payment for services, resources, and all other data such as “proof of recycling” are distributed immediately to all relevant parties.

This protocol could serve as an economic model for any distributed ledger needing to instantly collateralize tokens with assets. By collateralizing the tokens with reusable materials formerly wasted, value is created for both. This will spur a shift in social values giving already-mined materials multiple lives rather than extracting and using raw, virgin materials.

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Let me know what you think, and if you want us!

 

[joemoraca]

You didn't provide links to anything to review. I did google http://urbanore.com/ and that seems cool. Based on what you include here I don't see a clear request for anything to comment on. So I will throw in I would like a smart dumpster that rolls itself to the road on Tuesdays - full or not.

More details on your ideas of how you can grow Dash utilization would be helpful.

 

[wizofreuse]

Okay, yes I had originally posted links and such but because I am new, I had to take them out to post. Currently we are running our business on google apps, we would love our business to be enabled by the infrastructure DASH has. The "Evolution platform" and the Drive, Transactions, and merchant functions are features our waste business needs now. We are looking to be empowered and plugin to the DAPP/DAO infrastructure that already exists rather than build it.

 

[wizofreuse]

Here is our slack if it will let me post a link now: https://zerowaste-team.slack.com/

 

[wizofreuse]

white paper (completing): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-GbGyOlGdyLb91IUPyLAFNRjGnaeqWxdmvVutesCVLM/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Pete - DashCrypto]

As was touched on by joemoraca, your initial post gave but a concise overview of your aims. Your more recent post with a link to your whitepaper is helpful. I will read it and comment further. Still, I would suggest adding components dealing with the amount of Dash sought, the timeframe, how the Dash will be utilized, what the quantifiable deliverables will be and at what date/stage, etc. Also, it may be good to "introduce" yourself and/or your team.

 

[wizofreuse]

Here is article to hackathon we won 2nd place at this year: http://www.theserverside.com/blog/C...s-and-Opinions/How-to-win-at-an-IoT-hackathon

 

[RGXDK]

it's an automatic NO. I don't even know what this is about.

 

[wizofreuse]

it's an automatic NO. I don't even know what this is about.

As my mentors say: "If you are not for Zero Waste how much waste are you for?" This feedback does not help us, can you please explain this knee jerk response?

 

[RGXDK]

@wizofreuse

How about you explain what your proposal is about first? What the hell "Zero Waste" has to do with anything?

 

[TroyDASH]

What does this have to do with Dash?

 

[Pete - DashCrypto]

Hmm.. The idea of introducing more market signals into the relatively monolithic trash collection and disposal industry is interesting. One would be hard-pressed to identify someone who advocates that more trash need be created or who argues against the more efficient use of it, costs aside. But certainly costs are integral. 



But as TroyDASH noted, the proposal, as put forth thus far, doesn't seem to be crafted to leverage Dash. Indeed, it seems like a lot of variables have to first be realized before the proposal becomes viable to be funded. Along that vein, I'm reminded of the HempSweet proposal, which sounded nice were it all to work.

It’s stated that “a Consumer may be allowed to record the resources received from a Producer, which in turn may credit the Producer’s account.” Yet how would the type of resources be determined? Would the Producer be tasked with sorting their trash into up to 12 “discards” that are then each scanned and moved into the appropriate dumpster?

Putting the necessary technology aside (the scanners, links with trash collection companies, etc.) a lot hinges on the human actor.

I’m reminded of the Penn & Teller “Bullshit” episode on recycling, that demonstrated that though people may be well-intentioned, they will not take the time to sort their trash, due to confusion or lack of incentive. Perhaps I missed it but how does your team/white paper propose to address that?



How is it envisioned that Dash could play a part in this project? As a backbone currency upon which something like Dashparty could be created and your tokens supported? 

On what network would the smart contact be written that converts the token to fiat? Does it exist? If not, how much time/resources is that expected to take?



And by the way, at the bottom of the white paper there is viewable an email that is marked “CONFIDENTIAL” in the subject line.

 

[wizofreuse]

@wizofreuse

How about you explain what your proposal is about first? What the hell "Zero Waste" has to do with anything?

@wizofreuse

How about you explain what your proposal is about first? What the hell "Zero Waste" has to do with anything?

We are throwing away money (discards), such as metal, plastic, and brush (compost). This an economic layer, and how our DAO/DAPP will make money. We want to take over waste bill and automated pickup with a smart dumpster. We would use DASH as technology that runs out distributed waste corporation.

 

[Coqui33]

No. Apparently, nothng to do with improving/expanding/publicising Dash.

 

[wizofreuse]

Yes it was not crafted with Dash in mind. At first this was a being planned for ETH DAO project, they we got into HYPERLEDGER project (IBM). We are being advised to go open source now so will take the "confidential" off. As far as incentive, that is why we need a credit for waste diversion. You would through a 5cent can in a bucket that paid you wouldn't you?

As far as DASH, we are still learning but that sounds awesome (Dashparty). I need to learn more about that, but sure it would be create to support our tokens which will incentive reuse and waste diversion. Not sure how it will be converted to fiat from DASH network, but something like "coinvoice" would have worked but I think they went out of business.

Basically at a rudimentary level I am a CMO looking for technology platform to run our digital corp. The less I have to thing about white paper the more I can focus on our BETA (lowering the waste bill).

Best, John

Hmm.. The idea of introducing more market signals into the relatively monolithic trash collection and disposal industry is interesting. One would be hard-pressed to identify someone who advocates that more trash need be created or who argues against the more efficient use of it, costs aside. But certainly costs are integral. 



But as TroyDASH noted, the proposal, as put forth thus far, doesn't seem to be crafted to leverage Dash. Indeed, it seems like a lot of variables have to first be realized before the proposal becomes viable to be funded. Along that vein, I'm reminded of the HempSweet proposal, which sounded nice were it all to work.

It’s stated that “a Consumer may be allowed to record the resources received from a Producer, which in turn may credit the Producer’s account.” Yet how would the type of resources be determined? Would the Producer be tasked with sorting their trash into up to 12 “discards” that are then each scanned and moved into the appropriate dumpster?

Putting the necessary technology aside (the scanners, links with trash collection companies, etc.) a lot hinges on the human actor.

I’m reminded of the Penn & Teller “Bullshit” episode on recycling, that demonstrated that though people may be well-intentioned, they will not take the time to sort their trash, due to confusion or lack of incentive. Perhaps I missed it but how does your team/white paper propose to address that?



How is it envisioned that Dash could play a part in this project? As a backbone currency upon which something like Dashparty could be created and your tokens supported? 

On what network would the smart contact be written that converts the token to fiat? Does it exist? If not, how much time/resources is that expected to take?



And by the way, at the bottom of the white paper there is viewable an email that is marked “CONFIDENTIAL” in the subject line.

DA

 

[wizofreuse]

No. Apparently, nothng to do with improving/expanding/publicising Dash.

Honestly if we utilize Dash, Dash will get the benefit of being utilized by a business case with the potential of a 44 B industry (USA alone). Personally, my company Adbongo.io does advocacy for causes like Zero Waste and Blockchain. You are hearing about it now because of the advocacy. Marketing Dash will happen automatically if it works for our business.