Missing 1000 coins after darksend

europound

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Could somebody teach me how to join two wallets into one?
Do I just copy old.another.country.wallet.dat + new.laptop.wallet.dat -> god.help.me.bundle3.dat ?
 

Ryan Taylor

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Looking at your screen shots, this is exactly what is happening:

1) In 2014 and 2015, you made a backup of your wallet.
2) On your laptop in country A, you mixed coins AFTER the backups were made. This mixing process added new addresses to your wallet and sent funds there. These new addresses were NOT contained in your backups.
3) You are now in country B with a different laptop and restored your wallet from backups in 2014 and 2015.
  • Because these backups contained SOME of the addresses, but not ALL of the addresses used during the mixing process, it rightfully displays the transactions as "sends" (they go out of an address in your wallet to an address not in your wallet)
  • However, your wallet in country A should still contain those addresses, so that wallet would show them as mixes (transactions that go out of one address in the wallet, and into another address in the wallet)
  • Nearly all of the amounts in your screenshots are PrivateSend denominated amounts
  • Also, a typical "mix" contains many denominated inputs, yet your transactions only show one or two of those being "lost" in any one transaction... this tells me that your backup wallets have MOST, but not ALL of the PrivateSend mixing addresses used in each of the transactions. I would need to look at individual transactions in your wallet and compare them to the blockchain to validate this hypothesis. This means you likely went through all 1,000 autogenerated addresses and the original wallet in country A had to create new ones beyond the 1,000. With enough mixing, most of the funds would eventually end up in one of these newly created addresses.
In short, your backups are very outdated, and don't contain the private keys of all of the addresses contained in the wallet in country A. Obtain the wallet in country A, and I suspect you will find all of your funds. And please, back up your wallet more frequently!
 

Ryan Taylor

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Could somebody teach me how to join two wallets into one?
Do I just copy old.another.country.wallet.dat + new.laptop.wallet.dat -> god.help.me.bundle3.dat ?
No. Please, stop whatever you are doing. Get professional help in person before you damage a wallet. Then your funds really will be lost.

If you ever switch machines, you need to back up the wallet on the old machine and then copy that to the new machine. This entire episode is caused by restoring from a very very old backup that didn't contain all your most recent addresses.
 
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europound

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Another country old wallet is on ubuntu laptop in virtualbox windows 7.
I remember some crashes and hangups occurred with virtualbox.

Virtualbox is safer than live usb?
Does vb save data instantly to hdd?
 

europound

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What professional help? Where to find them?
I need a psychiatrist asap for sure... I am freaking out
 

UdjinM6

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I'm sorry I can't quite follow the story of what happened so let's try to clear it out a bit:
- you had a wallet (state 1, virtualbox)
- made a backup (state 1)
- mixed coins (new keys/addresses were created so now you wallet is in state 2, virtualbox)
- time passes
- you opened a wallet using a backup (now you are back in state 1 btw) and there are coins missing
- you did not mix in new wallet (the one you restored from a backup)

Right?

If so, you should:
- backup all wallets you have
- find you state 2 virtual box wallet (i.e. old.another.country.wallet.dat)
- copy it to dash datadir (new name, do not overwrite wallet.dat yet!)
- rename wallet.dat to wallet.dat.old, rename old.another.country.wallet.dat to wallet.dat
- open wallet as you normally do and you should see all your coins
 

crowning

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primary wallet is sitting in another laptop in another country in virtualbox...
Get this wallet and you'll have your coins. Case closed.

(this may sound harsh, but what you're requesting in all your posts is basically "I have a purse with many coins there, and have one with less coins here. I want to have the many coins purse here.")
 

Dworf

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but if I had crashes on virtualbox?
if you have had crashes with Virtualbox and the system file is corrupt you need urgent professional help - do not start VB again before a professional took a look inside your system
 

GrandMasterDash

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For this particular case, my advice would be to stop trying to fix this yourself and get everything sorted out professionally. Given the high value, I'm wondering if someone here could help in person and come to some kind of deal such as 10% of whatever is recovered.
 

rustycase

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"you have a very limited understanding of how wallets work in general and DarkSend in particular"

I am just an average Joe the Plumber, I don't care about tricks, hoops and loops and jumps, I just want my money back
It might occur to me the "average Joe the Plumber" may not need to make use of, or select DarkSend functions available in a wallet.

I ask a lot of questions before pushing buttons I don't understand.

Did I forget to mention, I was a better than average plumber... I was told the rules early on...
1. Shit runs down hill.
2. Payday is on Fridays.
3. Don't bite your fingernails.

I sure do hope you are able to get your problem resolved !
rc
 

ldw

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It might occur to me the "average Joe the Plumber" may not need to make use of, or select DarkSend functions available in a wallet.

Of course the average Joe wants privacy. The whole point of Dash is being a digital cash.
I really don't like the hostility that's going on here. I know the user made some dumb mistakes in this case, but Dash is never going to succeed as long as it's this complicated...
Private send should just work flawlessly and starting a masternode should be no more than a click on a button in your wallet...
I know about the grand future plans but I suggest Dash gets there quick because there are other coins catching up (and the current price might be reflecting that).​
 

GrandMasterDash

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It might occur to me the "average Joe the Plumber" may not need to make use of, or select DarkSend functions available in a wallet.

Of course the average Joe wants privacy. The whole point of Dash is being a digital cash.
I really don't like the hostility that's going on here. I know the user made some dumb mistakes in this case, but Dash is never going to succeed as long as it's this complicated...
Private send should just work flawlessly and starting a masternode should be no more than a click on a button in your wallet...
I know about the grand future plans but I suggest Dash gets there quick because there are other coins catching up (and the current price might be reflecting that).​
Indeed. And it seems to me, new lay users are arriving here and pointing out exactly what I've been saying all along. End users are expecting privacy by default and they just want it to do it's magic invisibly. Evan has previously touted the virtues of fungibility yet these days it's all about getting into bed with companies like Coinfirm and pushing privacy to the back ... oh yeah, "more important things to do".

When I bring these issues up, all I get is criticism yet it's not me that touted fungibility, it was Evan himself.. why don't people target him instead? But anyway, here's another recent post from someone that also gives their lay view...

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/...d-truly-be-anonymous.10936/page-3#post-106333

The core team needs to wake up and finally acknowledge they haven't been giving this the attention it deserves.
 

freshdopamine

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what do you mean by access?
I am creating new wallet on new computer, can I send dash coins from old to new now?
How do I retrieve coins from darksend abyss?
Open your wallet and you should see your balance at the top and then your mixed balance in red (meaning no mixed coins to send via darksend)
The balance on the top is amount of coins you hold. Click on send and on bottom right unclick darksend or click instant send. (access the funds) The reason why you can't send any darksend is because you hold 0 mixed coins
 

bigrcanada

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no, nothing was resolved, I lost all my money to this BS Darksend POS
Wasn't even a masternode
Dude... Reach out to the core devs. Your starting to sound like a troll. I've used darksend dozens of times...and have never had a single issue... Across multiple wallets... And in different locations all over the world. Sounds like you don't know what your doing and your blaming the technology. Imo.
 

Icebucket

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Is there not a slack channel dedicated to solving these issues ? if not there should be :rolleyes: thought we already had it but im not shure after all the slack drama that went down.
 
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Icebucket

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Maybe include in the core staff proposal a slack rep channel dedicated to help with dumb fucks like this one :D there is no shortage of dumb fuks and this problem will just grow.