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hfn64

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As I said, the videos are watchable and the quality is decent and definitely could be of use for DRK.
But when you think about the content... I spent a couple of minutes and I still do not know the difference between LTC / DOGE / BTC.
Why should I invest? What is this currency different than everything else?
So I am afraid that video did not explained the products. It explained very general basics of cryptocurrencies.
First of all, I had very little say in the content for the script for the LTC video. Secondly, that's what we were going with in the Dogecoin video. Dogecoin felt like it was a newbies introduction into the world of crypto. We were appealing to the average Joe who has no idea about cryptos, most don't care for the differences between DOGE and BTC, so we felt no need to overcomplicate things and tell them the differences. If we were appealing to a different demographic, a more serious crypto based group, we would over course go into more detail, and explain why the coin is different, and it's advantages over others... And that seems like what you're going for. Nice.
 

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Okay yeah it just came off as pretty offensive, perhaps you're too drunk at the moment. I'm just saying, perhaps your line of work differs from what these people are actually looking for. Unless you are physically promoting this video, i.e paying money to google to advertise on youtube, there's no point in trying to cram information into 30 seconds. If people have got to your website to find out about DRK, or typed in 'What is DRK', ultimately, they will watch 1:30-2mins of the video.
Thats the thing. You're referencing yourself. An early adopter. I may be a bit tipsy, but not at all rambling. You must put yourself int he shoes of one who has "heard" of bitcoin but doesnt know what it is... or someone who knows BTC or maybe LTC... but finds no instrinsic value to it.

Example. Oldest profession/trade in the world. Porn, sex, toys and whatnot. With bitcoin you can easily be exposed! With anon-dark you're safe. Now imagine all the rest of the "hope no one finds out what I bought" market... and I'm not promoting illegal stuff either!

That right there is a humungous market cap. Let alone little daily micro-payments or huge international money transfers.

For us cryptos is so logic, regular banking is obsolete. For 99% of the population this is just like email in the ealry 90's. Totally illogical and weird.

That's where I'm getting at
 
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Guys, you both are right but you are just talking about different audience - so let's make few versions :)
 

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Thats the thing. You're referencing yourself. An early adopter. I may be a bit tipsy, but not at all rambling. You must put yourself int he shoes of one who has "heard" of bitcoin but doesnt know what it is... or someone who knows BTC or maybe LTC... but finds no instrinsic value to it.

Example. Oldest profession/trade in the world. Porn, sex, toys and whatnot. With bitcoin you can easily be exposed! With anon-dark you're safe. Now imagine all the rest of the "hope no one finds out what I bought" market... and I'm not promoting illegal stuff either!

That right there is a humungous market cap. Let alone little daily micro-payments or huge international money transfers.

For us cryptos is so logic, regular banking is obsolete. For 99% of the population this is just like email in the ealry 90's. Totally illogical and weird.

That's where I'm getting at
Interesting stuff! I don't want to sound offensive, but perhaps you replied to the wrong comment? I don't think that your comment is associated with anything I said in my previous reply, so I'm quite confused...
 

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Ah OK - if the DOGE wanted intro to crypto then the video then your video did a very good job.

Problem with Dark is that at least in the early stages (=now and near future) I do not really see average Joe investing into / using Dark. Hence instead of something cryptogeneric I would at first target early adopters of bitcoin - the group that needs to be warned about insufficiencies of bitcoin and offered a tailored solution.
 
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Ah OK - if the DOGE wanted intro to crypto then the video then your video did a very good job.

Problem with Dark is that at least in the early stages (=now and near future) I do not really see average Joe investing into / using dark hence instead of something cryptogeneric I would at first target early adopters of bitcoin - the group that needs to be warned about insufficiencies of bitcoin and offered a tailored solution.
Yeah if that's what you guys are looking to do, that makes complete sense! The video should definitely be more concise about DRK vs BTC! :)
 
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Ah OK - if the DOGE wanted intro to crypto then the video then your video did a very good job.

Problem with Dark is that at least in the early stages (=now and near future) I do not really see average Joe investing into / using dark hence instead of something cryptogeneric I would at first target early adopters of bitcoin - the group that needs to be warned about insufficiencies of bitcoin and offered a tailored solution.
Bingo! But never BTC vs DRK .... just what DRK does that BTC doesnt... clearly but subtle! No coin war promotion!!

Sorry hfn64, again,no ofense!! I am a bit tipsy and should go to bed, maybe chose my words wrong?... but love this community so much I couldn't let go,

DRK video #1 MUST be bombastically stupid simple to follow by a 5 years or a 95 year old. From then on, its a different league. Ok, sorry about my drinking, just hope I made some sense somewhere... ;)

Ok, I'm off! resume tomorrow!
 

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Yep, agree with DRK does what BTC does not :)

The initial brief description must be targeted at those already familiar with BTC as almost everyone who wants to buy DRK has buy it with BTC anyway :)
 

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Lets focus people, @hnf64 you did a fantastic job. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

There are allot of opinions here but very few are pointed to the subject at hand.

Please post your ~100 word view of what darkcoin is here, for everything else please use PM.

We need to focus ! There is a small DRK price to be won if your explanation is picked ;)
Just post what comes to your head first. 100 words is surprisingly little.
 

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I think our focus should be on theme of "Privacy" not anon.

Anon makes people think about the darknet. Privacy is everyman's concern.
 

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yidakee If you have some vision of a 30sec video Im all ears.
What message would you promote in 30 sec ? Do you have some script/teaser in mind?
 

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yidakee If you have some vision of a 30sec video Im all ears.
What message would you promote in 30 sec ? Do you have some script/teaser in mind?
I work on demand. Hadn't thought of if... and like stated, not the best time to be coherent, though I try my best :tongue:
Seriously, I can be that good, if inspired! Please drop me a line tomorrow, so this ebrious state of mine right now, doesn't make me forget.

Still cant believe my best mate is getting married !! :eek::tongue::tongue::cool:

EDIT: ok ok... insomnia can be a great muse... I'll have something by tomorrow
 

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yidakee If you have some vision of a 30sec video Im all ears.
What message would you promote in 30 sec ? Do you have some script/teaser in mind?
Ok... right on top off my head before I go to sleep

1 - What is darkcoin ? Do you know what Bitcoin is, to start off with? If not this video is not for you!... (double edged sword here... see?)
2 - BTC is....transparent, clean, honestly public ledgered, pseudonym based, totally open and scrutinised by individuals or companies, etc...
3. DRK is everything BTC can be, except, if you so wish, it can also be completely anonymous and private! Solves BTC's main problem. fungibility, and merchant/customer privacy/anonymity.
4 - DRK takes 2.5 minutes vs BTC 10 minute. And using the same API's ... A super sales pitch for micto tx, ergo merchants.

That, in under 30 seconds, with a sexy voice, and nice animate graphics, will be a alt-killer!! Say the word and its done within a weeks with international quality stamp, design, sound foley, voice over in multiple languages, original music, the works. I can do it no problem. That's my day to day thing.
 
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I have too many projects going on to do anything pro bono these days. However I may be able to set you up with a motion logo if someone can provide me the Logo / Branded Graphics in highest resolution Adobe Illustrator and PSD files.

I can provide a link to my demo reel after I'm no longer a newb. You can also google me and/or go to my youtube page
 

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Ok... right on top off my head before I go to sleep

1 - What is darkcoin ? Do you know what Bitcoin is, to start off with? If not this video is not for you!... (double edged sword here... see?)
2 - BTC is....transparent, clean, honestly public ledgered, pseudonym based, totally open and scrutinised by individuals or companies, etc...
3. DRK is everything BTC can be, except, if you so wish, it can also be completely anonymous and private! Solves BTC's main problem. fungibility, and merchant/customer privacy/anonymity.
4 - DRK takes 2.5 minutes vs BTC 10 minute. And using the same API's ... A super sales pitch for micto tx, ergo merchants.

That, in under 30 seconds, with a sexy voice, and nice animate graphics, will be a alt-killer!! Say the word and its done within a weeks with international quality stamp, design, sound foley, voice over in multiple languages, original music, the works. I can do it no problem. That's my day to day thing.
Nice. What about very simple version of what you have written (dummified to the extreme):

<text on the screen>WHY DARKCOIN ?

<2 seconds later a voice starts>While Darkcoin shares many similarities with Bitcoin, it offers 2 key improvements:
<another voice>Darkcoin is fast. It only takes two minutes to confirm the transactions. <animation of a rabbit outracing a turtle>
<another voice>Darkcoin is anonymous.<the rabbit puts on a starwars mask>

<back to the original voice>Some of you have nothing to hide. For everyone else, there is Darkcoin.

<Darkcoin logo appears on the screen and the voice continues>Darkcoin. Because the privacy matters.
 
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yidakee I like your 30 sec promo vid idea. but this thread is not about that. I would like us to stay on topic, and If you want to make this promo. All the power to you. I would like to participate in any way that I can but. We are right now just working on this.

I foresee a future where there are multiple videos hovering on the internet explaining darkcoin. But we need to start somewhere.

So people. What is darkcoin ?
 

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we should have a teaser, something that will make people ask What is darkcoin. The theme of the teaser may be Why Darkcoin and it may be something simple & shocking that has a potential to be re-sent like that rabbit in the starwars mask. Do not underestimate geekiness of the early adopters - they are the ones who are investing into drk at the moment.
 

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yidakee I like your 30 sec promo vid idea. but this thread is not about that. I would like us to stay on topic, and If you want to make this promo. All the power to you. I would like to participate in any way that I can but. We are right now just working on this.

I foresee a future where there are multiple videos hovering on the internet explaining darkcoin. But we need to start somewhere.

So people. What is darkcoin ?
Yes, I perfectly understand. But what you describe is precisely what I'm saying, In less than 30 seconds, a 5 year old or a 95 yearld old must get the message sound and clear! - the rest is personal philosophy and technicalities on the subject - this is based on more than 60 years of market research! The vast majority of the "people" will not stand for more than 30 seconds! I'm not trying to promote "my idea" .... just bringing my expertise in the area, The human species is stupid by nature and has an attentions span just under 30 seconds unless motivated!

Once motivated, get them to tier 2 enlightenment, until then, hammer them with KISS (keep it simple and stupid)

What is darkcoin ?

The first fully operational private crypto-currency based on Bitcoin. It innovates by addressing one of Bitcoin's main flaws - fungibility.
Bitcoin is not fungible, its pseudo-anonymous, which serves a great purpose! Honesty and transparency! Both of which are great things!!
But what about privacy and anonymity?
Bitcoin completely fails there.
But Darkcoin can do both.
Open and scrutinised, or privately anonymised !!
And its much much MUCH faster too!

With Darkcoin you have the choice.

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extra credits for other vids/projects

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True financial freedom to the world"
"And its even more environmentally friendly than BTC due to x11 algo"
" and DGW3 instead of a fixed perpetual date for mining halving-rewards ?!?! "
" Its 28ºC outside, and my miner is purring like a quiet kitty at around 61ºC (ref: 5x 280x-Vapor-X miner)
" It is, in this day and age, ASIC resistant! x11... 11 algorithms mixed together? My GPU's will certainly last longer, for a long LONG time !!"
"My miners make less than half the noise they did before, and about half the electric cost!!... and will surely last longer!"
"The first solid PoW coins and working PoService coin? Wow... such financial prestige..."
"A fully dedicated 24/7 team of developers who do not hide behind pseudonyms ? .. wow..."
"The main developer, Evan, has 17+ years working in the financial sector before qutting full time for Darkcoin ?!!? ..... ok ..."
"the most resilient, strong held together, spontaneously created community, in the recent history of the internet (apart from the highly respected "Anonymous" alliance)?
" A most positive well rounded group of individuals sharing a congruous vision?"

I could go on, but I'm out for now, Food for thought people... Slice it up and mix it, but lets do something about it, ok ?

nighty-night
 
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Are we on the same page here? Fungibility is ability to exchange the currency for any other unit of the currency. Do you mean that a bitcoin is not the same as the other bitcoin because some bitcoins are "clean" whereas other are tainted whereas darkcoins are all clean with no traceable history? If I am not getting it, 5 year old may struggle as well :)
 

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Fungibility is a word that is just to complex for my grandmother to understand. We need to stick with the KISS approach.
 

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On another note,
I believe this video needs 2 parts / or 2 different videos
- What is DRK
and
- How to use DRK

I am just back from a trip where i met an old friend again, he is good on computers but had a hard time understanding how to use DRK, buy/where to and how, wallets (use and secure them, step by step guide), …….. thats why i mention/suggest this …>>
 

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I think hfn64 does a good job and we should consider his offer seriously.

If we want more videos for different audiences we could create multiple videos, I see no issue here. Let's keep this topic constructive.

hfn64 what do you need to get started?
 
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I think hfn64 does a good job and we should consider his offer seriously.

If we want more videos for different audiences we could create multiple videos, I see no issue here. Let's keep this topic constructive.

hfn64 what do you need to get started?
I'm glad you're interested! I would really recommend a video series, perhaps. Like 'How to use Darkcoin' 'How to buy and sell Darkcoin' 'How Darkcoin works' 'What is Darkcoin', I imagine that'd be really useful, but of course - it's up to you.

All I need to get started is a script. More often than not, the videos I create, I create the concepts/scenes for. If people have suggestions, I'd happily look at possible storyboards, and select the best concepts/the most viable and work with those.
A voice over would also be extremely helpful, although I can create the video without, and then sync it with the audio, but it's much more difficult.
 
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I'm glad you're interested! I would really recommend a video series, perhaps. Like 'How to use Darkcoin' 'How to buy and sell Darkcoin' 'How Darkcoin works' 'What is Darkcoin', I imagine that'd be really useful, but of course - it's up to you.

All I need to get started is a script. More often than not, the videos I create, I create the concepts/scenes for. If people have suggestions, I'd happily look at possible storyboards, and select the best concepts/the most viable and work with those.
A voice over would also be extremely helpful, although I can create the video without, and then sync it with the audio, but it's much more difficult.
Are you familiar with Darksend+ and Masternodes and how they work?
Are you also good at creating Infographics or know someone by any chance?
 

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Are you familiar with Darksend+ and Masternodes and how they work?
Are you also good at creating Infographics or know someone by any chance?

I am not familiar at all, however I could take some time to get to grips with the concepts. And do you mean static image infographics? I'm good with illustrator/photoshop so yeah I could defo give it a go? If you mean animated infographics, that's a bit more difficult but of course all possible to do! :)
 

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I finally had the net speed to watch these 2 videos from hfn64 , and i think they are ok !
- a bit too happy
- a bit too fast
- a bit too much background into in there
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but on a general, this is pretty cool and user 'friendly' (people get the message)
this kind of 'animation' (less photos thought) would be great to get the message across !

I agree with yidakee , lets start with the 1st video as an introduction, (short) then they are 'honey', and then we can do all the follow up's
(more technical stuff, MN's, Darksend +,....)
vertoe i agree, we should consider this offer, before we start with somebody else who has no idea about the crypto world, and we have to start from scratch !

Lets do it ! ...>>
 

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Hi guys! I´m a long time forum lurker and darkcoin supporter from april on. I also run a company, where we create explainer videos (cant post a link since it is my first post on the forum). Usually it´s a good idea to start with a video narration script and based on that create a graphics storyboard that can be revised before starting on the animation. I totally agree that the video should be targeted at mass adopters rather than tech people. It should also briefly explain how darkcoin works, but most importantly it should emphasise the benefits of using darkcoin, complete anonymity, decentralized system and fast anonymous transactions. But first we need to drill down to the best marketing statement for darkcoin. IMHO "first anonymous cryptocurrency solution" is too vague. We need something that appeals more to the end user, and promotes utility of DRK. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
 
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Maybe this is to early. How about a side video explaining any of the FUD that may have been spread? Wide adoption is made by making things easy. It would be easier for the average user to believe FUD through hearsay rather than looking it up for themselves. I say find all the crap and address it directly. No fuss. No problem. Again maybe this is to much but just an idea to calm the masses.
 
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It takes more energy to address fud then to make fud. i prefer if we stick to the folks who want to know about Darkcoin without making alot of searches for it. communicate clearly concisely and completely.
 
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