[prepoposal] Dash Debit Card ready by Mid-April

Shall we release the DASH debit card within 3 weeks?

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AjM

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Thank you for your question. As mentioned in a comment above, we leave the crypto in crypto. So if you deposit crypto (e.g. 1 Dash), you will have Dash in our TenX wallet. Assume you go to any store in the world, it can be in Finland or anywhere else and you use your TenX card, then in THIS VERY MOMENT the best available exchange rate is used to spend your Dash in fiat.

Does that make sense?
Yes, but how much i can spend if have that one Dash, which is at that time exchage valued 100€ and i want buy something, in Euros?
 

Dr. Julian Hosp

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Yes, but how much i can spend if have that one Dash, which is at that time exchage valued 100€ and i want buy something, in Euros?
It depends on the exact exchange rate that very moment when you make the purchase.
 
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Dr. Julian Hosp

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Would you be able to ship these cards direct to US?

Would people be able to set up accounts from US?

How long would shipping time be to US? Is it direct from you?

These are things that MANY would like to know, as the main issue right now is a physical dash debit card that can be used in US. @CharlieShrem is tackling this problem with his card. I want to know if this will be a valuable possibility as well for the US market, and who can verify your legitimacy? Perhaps work with @babygiraffe to finalise this!
At this very moment we do not do KYC checks as a standard process. That is why right now, we discourage not necessarily prohibit US users, to get our TenX cards. Saying that, this is an issue we are actually solving with lawyers these very days, as we feel we are on the safe side, but rather safe than sorry.

We are shipping cards all over the world nevertheless and we do see a clear road to offer these DASH Debit cards also to US users.

Verifying our legitimacy it depends on what you are looking for exactly:
  • That we guys exist? Happy to do a live broadcast with our team.
  • That our app works? Just download it and try our app with Bitcoin on Android.
  • That we can handle the Dash integration? We've had a few Dash Masternodes live for quite some time already. The actual integration into our app is similar to Bitcoin, as Dash is a fork. So the RPC is the same.
I personally do not know @babygiraffe, but happy to get "verified" through her/him.

Let me know if any further questions, happy to answer.
 
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At this very moment we do not do KYC checks as a standard process. That is why right now, we discourage not necessarily prohibit US users, to get our TenX cards. Saying that, this is an issue we are actually solving with lawyers these very days, as we feel we are on the safe side, but rather safe than sorry.

We are shipping cards all over the world nevertheless and we do see a clear road to offer these DASH Debit cards also to US users.

Verifying our legitimacy it depends on what you are looking for exactly:
  • That we guys exist? Happy to do a live broadcast with our team.
  • That our app works? Just download it and try our app with Bitcoin on Android.
  • That we can handle the Dash integration? We've had a few Dash Masternodes live for quite some time already. The actual integration into our app is similar to Bitcoin, as Dash is a fork. So the RPC is the same.
I personally do not know @babygiraffe, but happy to get "verified" through her/him.

Let me know if any further questions, happy to answer.
! I would vote in favor if US is possible. I will not sit here and grill you on legitimacy, and I like what I am seeing. I do hope that the core team recognizes this proposal and gives some feedback or inquiry.
 

Dr. Julian Hosp

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100€ ?
So i'm asking your fee.
We do NOT charge fees. Please understand that it is not always possible to charge the exact same exchange rate you might find on Google or an exchange since there might be small time delays, but we only work with the fees from the merchant.
 
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! I would vote in favor if US is possible. I will not sit here and grill you on legitimacy, and I like what I am seeing. I do hope that the core team recognizes this proposal and gives some feedback or inquiry.
We totally understand that and trust me when I say that we are working on this very hard. To be honest, we are quite confident even with the current setup we could already encourage US based users to sign up, but we want to be double protected. That is why we do NOT prohibit but rather discourage US based users atm. Be assured that within the next few weeks we will have this working.
 

AjM

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We do NOT charge fees. Please understand that it is not always possible to charge the exact same exchange rate you might find on Google or an exchange since there might be small time delays, but we only work with the fees from the merchant.
Ok, thanks, that sounds very nice.
 
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If android tap&pay testing program is still open, I'd like to apply.

Will vote "yes" on the proposal, be it submitted.
Awesome, let me talk to our Tech team, what the exact status for more users is and I will definitely get back to you.
Thanx for your support.
 
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I like this one a lot but have a few questions about the fee's.
So when you say 0% asset exchange fee does that mean from Dash to fiat?
Do you just go by the exact exchange price at the time of conversion and there is no mark up? Which exchange for BTC do you use?
Will you be integrating Instantsend?
Thanks
 

Dr. Julian Hosp

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Smells scammy to me
reason being? Cause you haven't tried our app, haven't actually looked into what we are doing... Just posting something, so you posted - right?! :) I can live with that. Would have been surprised not to see at least one troll commenting this.
 
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I like this one a lot but have a few questions about the fee's.
So when you say 0% asset exchange fee does that mean from Dash to fiat?
Do you just go by the exact exchange price at the time of conversion and there is no mark up? Which exchange for BTC do you use?
Will you be integrating Instantsend?
Thanks
Thanx for your questions.
Dash to fiat, correctly.
We use Polo.
Instantsend will get integrated.
 

Dr. Julian Hosp

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Who's that?
I assume you ask for their names and not what Angels and VCs are, right?

As this was a seed round and our Series A will come up Q3, I am happy to give you some names, however understand that due to strategic and legal reasons this is NOT a complete list. It is not common practise to release names before Series A anyways.

John R.
Dennis J. (last name abbreviated)
D. Lee (first name abbreviated)
Andreas A. (last name abbreviated)

We are in the same office as this guy here in Singapore - yep, he also has our card!



Now, let me ask you this: What is your clean name and who are you? :) If you are an accredited investor, feel free to contact me and I am happy to send you our company profile with our advisors and investor list.
 

GrandMasterDash

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I assume you ask for their names and not what Angels and VCs are, right?

As this was a seed round and our Series A will come up Q3, I am happy to give you some names, however understand that due to strategic and legal reasons this is NOT a complete list. It is not common practise to release names before Series A anyways.

John R.
Dennis J. (last name abbreviated)
D. Lee (first name abbreviated)
Andreas A. (last name abbreviated)

We are in the same office as this guy here in Singapore - yep, he also has our card!



Now, let me ask you this: What is your clean name and who are you? :) If you are an accredited investor, feel free to contact me and I am happy to send you our company profile with our advisors and investor list.
Being:
  • you have $1M from investors, and
  • you own MNs, and
  • you are ready to be fully implemented within 3 weeks, and
  • bitcoin and ethereum didn't pay you for their integration, and
  • dash adds value to your product offering
  • then why you are asking for 300 dash?
 
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Dr. Julian Hosp

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Being:
  • you have $1M from investors, and
  • you own MNs, and
  • you are ready to be fully implemented within 3 weeks, and
  • bitcoin and ethereum didn't pay you for their integration, and
  • dash adds value to your product offering
  • then why you are asking for 300 dash?
Just because we have money, does not mean we do not treat it carefully. We actually have a clear roadmap on what we want to achieve. We will focus a lot on the integration of COMIT as this would allow being fully trustless between blockchains. So most of our focus would go that direction as it is the true long-term value proposition. Adding Dash or any of the other currencies is short- to mid-term, as with COMIT this would be automatic and is our long-term vision: To connect all the blockchain through an open-source protocol.

What's the limiting resource for us? Time.
Time for Dash can be bought with money and since we did not budget that in in the 1M, we would use the 300 Dash to hire 1 full time person for Dash, while not getting in the way of our other plans.

Let me ask you this:
You do not expect us to work for free right? The Dash fund is there to support great projects and I believe ours will bring excellent value to the community. We would not integrate Dash at this very moment without the 300 Dash, because we have to hire an additional developer to do this and as you can see in our value proposition, our main target is to offer EVERYTHING, even the debit card, decentralized. Therefore, this proposal is a WIN-WIN for the community and of course us. And this is what this fund is for, right?! If the community disagrees, then let us know, and you can use other not-working debit cards that charge high fees. So far, most of the others feel we would add great value and that is what we are here for.

Should you have any further questions on this, let me know otherwise I would love to focus on the actual product! :)
 
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Dr. Julian Hosp

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You had no problem working for free when it was BTC and ETH. Why should DASH pay a penalty that no one else did?
I think you are misunderstanding our intentions. We onboarded BTC and ETH only to have a prove of concept for COMIT, not necessarily to offer a debit card. This was just a by-product. If you feel Dash is being punished by us integrating a service now that we would otherwise not integrate until the end of the year, because our vision is to build a decentralized credit card payment platform, then we of course will not offer our service right now. Understand, that the original plan was NOT to offer Dash right now, rather in a year's time directly decentraliced through the COMIT routing protocol.

A company can do everything, just not at the same time. Our focus is to have everything ready on a decentralized basis by year end. We just thought you would be excited for us to hire an extra person and dedicate a few resources to this growing platform and have the best card out there.

Your call - that's why we have this preproposal. So far over 90% want the card, so we are optimistic!
 

GrandMasterDash

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I think you are misunderstanding our intentions. We onboarded BTC and ETH only to have a prove of concept for COMIT, not necessarily to offer a debit card. This was just a by-product. If you feel Dash is being punished by us integrating a service now that we would otherwise not integrate until the end of the year, because our vision is to build a decentralized credit card payment platform, then we of course will not offer our service right now. Understand, that the original plan was NOT to offer Dash right now, rather in a year's time directly decentraliced through the COMIT routing protocol.

A company can do everything, just not at the same time. Our focus is to have everything ready on a decentralized basis by year end. We just thought you would be excited for us to hire an extra person and dedicate a few resources to this growing platform and have the best card out there.

Your call - that's why we have this preproposal. So far over 90% want the card, so we are optimistic!
Okay good, you can conitinue your onboarding test with the number three cryptocurrency too.
 
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dmitriybtc

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Wow, that is something really awesome.
So if I got it right, anybody will have an ability to fund our debit card with crypto only and when we want to buy something it automatically is exchanged into whatever fiat currency we live in, is it correct?

So if I live in Ukraine, and our local currency here hryvnias, I won't have to worry about conversion Dash into USD/Euro and then into hryvnia. It will be just straight Dash into hryvnia, right?

And what about fees, how were you able to remove all of them? Just curious.

If I understand everything tight, this is something extraordinary and I already want to order this card :)
 

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So far we have seen everything from 3 to 14 working days. I think it depends where exactly you live and how good the local post service it. We sent one card to the very north of Fortaleza which took 9 days. But we found out that the person really lived in the middle of nowhere. So I assume if you are in Sao Paulo or Rio, it is rather on the low end. From our end, we mail the card the same day we receive the order.
You are fast ... I requested the request to test here in brasil my card at around 2AM Brasilia and now in the morning I already have the number to track my card at the post office
 

GrandMasterDash

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I think you are misunderstanding our intentions. We onboarded BTC and ETH only to have a prove of concept for COMIT, not necessarily to offer a debit card. This was just a by-product. If you feel Dash is being punished by us integrating a service now that we would otherwise not integrate until the end of the year, because our vision is to build a decentralized credit card payment platform, then we of course will not offer our service right now. Understand, that the original plan was NOT to offer Dash right now, rather in a year's time directly decentraliced through the COMIT routing protocol.

A company can do everything, just not at the same time. Our focus is to have everything ready on a decentralized basis by year end. We just thought you would be excited for us to hire an extra person and dedicate a few resources to this growing platform and have the best card out there.

Your call - that's why we have this preproposal. So far over 90% want the card, so we are optimistic!
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