vazaki3
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FUD
Decreed is about to surpass Dash
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First up, decred flipping dash, however briefly, is a good indicator for buying dash so long as you have other indicators.. which did occur. I did pick some up.
From the beginning, MNOs have consistently made poor long term decisions, for even when they did make good decisions, they got bored and distracted with other proposals. It's difficult to succeed at anything if you're constantly distracted. Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, which I think probably applies to any political or governance system. But having said that, you can't just blame MNOs because, ultimately, DCG are the self-assigned guardian of dash's consensus and governance. For those kind of decisions, they have always held house advantage and imo they dropped the ball.
Now, I understand I am seen as a bit of an antagonist here but, on reflection, it was my frustration dealing with certain people here that were and still remain stubborn. Stubbornness is easily one of the worst human traits. They didn't like me biting back and their stubbornness meant they could never stop, listen and reconsider, "we'll show him, we're going to keep our principles at any cost". And that's it really, right there.. principles ALWAYS come at a cost. The more principled you are, the bigger the cost. Not saying having principles is a bad thing, but I think people should always be checking in on what that cost is. When you're on life support, you can't afford principles and often the only way to get ahead is drop them.
My approach has always been spending activism, which is why I no longer bother with proposals or thinking someone hear would actually engage us. It takes a particular mindset to reset the conversation.
From the beginning, MNOs have consistently made poor long term decisions, for even when they did make good decisions, they got bored and distracted with other proposals. It's difficult to succeed at anything if you're constantly distracted. Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, which I think probably applies to any political or governance system. But having said that, you can't just blame MNOs because, ultimately, DCG are the self-assigned guardian of dash's consensus and governance. For those kind of decisions, they have always held house advantage and imo they dropped the ball.
Now, I understand I am seen as a bit of an antagonist here but, on reflection, it was my frustration dealing with certain people here that were and still remain stubborn. Stubbornness is easily one of the worst human traits. They didn't like me biting back and their stubbornness meant they could never stop, listen and reconsider, "we'll show him, we're going to keep our principles at any cost". And that's it really, right there.. principles ALWAYS come at a cost. The more principled you are, the bigger the cost. Not saying having principles is a bad thing, but I think people should always be checking in on what that cost is. When you're on life support, you can't afford principles and often the only way to get ahead is drop them.
My approach has always been spending activism, which is why I no longer bother with proposals or thinking someone hear would actually engage us. It takes a particular mindset to reset the conversation.
Dans
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Sometimes, during a person's lifetime, one lucky opportunity to become rich may arise. In extraordinary cases, there may be two such opportunities, but having three is almost impossible.
n the case of Dash, it once had a chance to shine above the rest when it surpassed $1,000. We all thought this is it — we had found the holy grail of cryptocurrencies.
Later, we saw that fleeting illusion fade away, pushing us to adopt a more conservative stance, though we still believed it could happen... and it did, in a bull market led by Bitcoin, we were lifted to nearly $500 — driven by promises of Evolution, fast payments, decentralization, DeFi...
Now time has passed, and little to nothing remains of that dream many had of seeing Dash among the top 10. The opportunities were not used to fund projects that could truly add intrinsic value to Dash.
Instead, funding continued to go to a group that promised —and still promises— to deliver something extraordinary that would make a difference... A difference we witness daily as we look at the market rankings and see meme coins, or coins that don't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on questionable marketing and even more questionable code, outperform without attracting any serious investor capable of sustaining the price.
I doubt there will be a third opportunity. I accept my share of the blame — no one forced me to be here. The red flags were obvious, and we were slowly cooked with promises that never came, stripping us financially and leaving us in crypto oblivion.
Is it still worth waiting for something here?
I don’t think so. I’ve got my 1,600 Dash sitting there, forgotten. From time to time, I look at them and remember when just one Dash could get my son a bicycle on Bitrefill... now, if I'm lucky, it buys him a t-shirt — and soon, probably just a Hot Wheels car.
At least I haven’t really lost anything here, since I bought Dash a long time ago with profits from selling other coins, around $12 each. What truly saddens me is knowing that some people bought at $150, $120, or $70 not so long ago... and they’ll be stuck until this payment system understands that the priority is not to waste the budget, but to invest in actual value. A value that must be proven before releasing a single cent. Not like it is now, with upfront payments to unscrupulous people who are just another leech living off Dash’s budget.
If it were up to me, payments would only be made if the delivered product meets the promised goals, or if the marketing reaches a defined audience. It breaks my heart to see Dash advocacy videos about economic freedom getting barely a hundred views… My son makes gaming videos that pull in several thousand — and here we are, paying for garbage.
Take care, and best of health to everyone.
qwizzie
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Decred / DCR : -94.3% down from ATH
Dash : -98.8% down from ATH
Source : CryptoRank.io
Both coins are in the same boat. Same for a lot of other Altcoins.
Monero's pump this year (which looks to have peaked at $420) gives me hope that maybe other Altcoins will start getting pumped as well. Circulating away from already pumped Altcoins (overbought) towards severly dumped Altcoins (oversold).
Dash : -98.8% down from ATH
Source : CryptoRank.io
Both coins are in the same boat. Same for a lot of other Altcoins.
Monero's pump this year (which looks to have peaked at $420) gives me hope that maybe other Altcoins will start getting pumped as well. Circulating away from already pumped Altcoins (overbought) towards severly dumped Altcoins (oversold).
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vazaki3
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All? No way! Everyone, except me! I started yelling that Dash is about to fall to zero, when Dash reached 1640 USD
Stupids and Spies bought masternodes in order to stop governance.
There is an initiative to make the governance questions cheap, in order for the masternodes to be able to govern the DASH coin. But some stupids, and some spies, dont want that. They want to keep the governance questions expensive, to prevent masternodes from governing...
www.dash.org
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vazaki3
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Here follows the proof of potato I gave, back in 2017. Nobody believed me then, of course.
www.dash.org
You still dont believe me, but Dash can become the first coin, if you follow "the proof of individuality" road.
VOTE FOR ENCOINTER, STUPID!
(and vote the numbers too)
Which masternodes voted and what exactly voted on various proposals.
I think the table is not appropritate to visualize the data. Better use something like this. http://www.chartjs.org/samples/latest/ http://www.chartjs.org/samples/latest/scriptable/bubble.html http://www.chartjs.org/samples/latest/charts/radar.html
www.dash.org
You still dont believe me, but Dash can become the first coin, if you follow "the proof of individuality" road.
VOTE FOR ENCOINTER, STUPID!
(and vote the numbers too)
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Yes, totally get that, but I think the reason for the comparison is that dash was previously considered in a different league to decred.
I think a lot of alts have been cheap for quite a while. Even though bitcoin price moves them, it just can't quite break their back.
As for monero, I'm pretty sure the recent pump was down to the funneling of exchange hacks.
vazaki3
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Exactly. Dash used to be the 6th coin, once upon times.
But due to DCG (which didnt vote the numbers and didnt implement a proof of individuality scheme whenever the stupid and spies started to buy dash in order to destroy its governance) is now a dead coin.
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No, treat this as a hobby project. Platform chain launched in September(!), yet it has zero usage aside from credit withdrawals (check the platform explorer). Blockchain usernames seemed so cool back in 2016. Are you excited about tokens and NFTs on Platform in 2025? Yeah, me neither.
Usernames are still really cool! I like it really, I just say: send me 3 Dash, my username is Peter. Easier than anything else!
vazaki3
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Yeah....Yeah...certainly! The fudders decided the bad road that Dash followed! Are you nuts? THE RESPONSIBLES ARE NOT THE FUDDERS, THE RESPONSIBLES ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDE AND GOVERN!!!
Such pathetic mind send, to accuse the opposition for the bad things that the goverment causes!!! I dont know if you are a spy, but you are certainly a stupid. Stupidity is biggest force of the Dash universe.
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vazaki3
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<vote history>
</vote history>
Who is responsible for Dash's failure?
DCG
Votes: 5 -100.0%DCG
Votes: 4 -80.0%DCG
Votes: 4 -80.0%other
Votes: 1 -20.0%the stupid
Votes: 1 -20.0%the spies
Votes: 1 -20.0%the masternodes
Votes: 1 -20.0%the fudders
Votes: 0 -0.0%
- Total voters 5
</vote history>
I'm curious - and I really don't know the answer - but what is the break-even price for running a Platform node? because I think that would be one thing to consider when defining "failure".
I agree with soia, best to just treat this as a hobby project.
To this day I still have an error pinned to the top of my wallet "Error Upgrading" and pressing "Retry" does nothing. It's the ugliest thing and the longer it stays there, the more I can say this is a "failure". Of course, no one can understand this if they were successful in obtaining a username. Additionally, my chosen username was rejected on the flimsiest of grounds but I am unable to prove it because that would reveal personal identifiable information. So definitely, in my case, I would say that is another way to say failure.
When people here refer to dash's price as "low" it means they themselves are identifying with that aspect. Low is relative and there are many coins / tokens a lot cheaper than dash. Are they also "failures"? - no, of course not, but for dash the price doesn't reflect people's aspirations, that is why they are disappointed and talking about it. Pain comes from desire.
I agree with soia, best to just treat this as a hobby project.
To this day I still have an error pinned to the top of my wallet "Error Upgrading" and pressing "Retry" does nothing. It's the ugliest thing and the longer it stays there, the more I can say this is a "failure". Of course, no one can understand this if they were successful in obtaining a username. Additionally, my chosen username was rejected on the flimsiest of grounds but I am unable to prove it because that would reveal personal identifiable information. So definitely, in my case, I would say that is another way to say failure.
When people here refer to dash's price as "low" it means they themselves are identifying with that aspect. Low is relative and there are many coins / tokens a lot cheaper than dash. Are they also "failures"? - no, of course not, but for dash the price doesn't reflect people's aspirations, that is why they are disappointed and talking about it. Pain comes from desire.