DashRemix makes Masternode voting easy with unbiased ratings of budget proposals and voting APIs

JackDashRemix

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Hi @Ftoole thanks for your questions.

We are looking at reducing the scope and budget of this proposal so it's more like a pilot project and more palatable for treasury funding. Automated voting is not part of this proposal, likely the next, and a discussion worth having. There are safeguards we can put in place that should mitigate concerns, e.g. put a check that MNOs have reviewed their votes before confirming. We are already thinking about security and centralisation concerns by writing evaluation outcomes to the blockchain to ensure no one can manipulate the system.

I think, and I would like to hear your opinion, that we can really add a lot of value to the network. Our initial goal is just to remove painpoints for MNOs. We want to increase their engagement with the voting system by allowing them to quickly evaluate all the information on the table. The rubric will draw out additional project details which will help people make informed decisions. We want to create guides for proposal owners to make sure they are giving MNOs the right amount of detail and information, therefore giving them the best chance to be fairly evaluated by the community and succeed if the project stands up. Ideally this will all result in better proposals and more informed votes on proposals; these are 'upstream' benefits to the Dash ecosystem which result in better long-term outcomes for the project (since, ideally, better projects are moving forward and working for Dash's interests out in the world).

We were introduced to Dash by the Kuvacash team. Personally, I have been interested and involved in crypto for the last couple of years, mostly through in the Ethereum space however. Our team has a blockchain developer (Ben) and a very experienced silicon valley product designer (Devin). All of us are crypto enthusiasts, and since learning about Dash have really come around to the DAO system and its obvious benefits for the protocol. Aspirational projects like Kuva are good examples of that.

CoinRemix will accept crypto at some point; for now it's more of an accounting issue (we are incorporated in Australia and crypto tax isn't well sorted out yet!). We pivoted from software development (crypto portfolios etc) last year to the evaluation system now in place, so we are still working through some of these things, our focus is mainly on getting content out at the moment.

Our method for CoinRemix is different to DashRemix; DashRemix is about establishing an analyst agnostic rubric, so that any team (not just DashRemix) can use these tools and contribute to the community. CoinRemix, on the other hand, is our expert opinion on ICOs that people pay for; it has some rubric elements (more technical, objective evaluation on team size, technical implementation, community metrics etc) but really we are deep-diving in the technical aspects of blockchain technologies on ICOs. Most reviews are focused on 'will this give me good returns after the ICO?' but we focus on "are the fundamentals of this project such as the technical foundation, market feasibility etc solid?" which is more of a longterm view on the viability of crypto out in the world. You can view our latest review here, it is currently outside of the paywall. Just to be clear, all DashRemix framework and content will be open source and free to access.

Gday @craigums, thanks a lot for your input and for linking me to your video. I watched through that section a couple of times and it is a very interesting idea. Increasing engagement with MNOs is really at the core of what we're doing and your discussion there; I think any measurable increase will result in better outcomes for Dash. There are multiple solutions to the issue; ours came about by asking 'How can we make evaluating proposals a painless experience for MNOs when there are so many proposals being posted and a never-ending debate around a lot of them?'

Our answer is to provide a framework to funnel all that information in one place, in a way that evaluates all the information fairly and gives a quick snapshot with a detailed dive available for any MNOs who wish to be more engaged. We believe an informed vote is a better outcome than no vote at all in this case, especially when a relatively small number of MNOs are responsible for the strategic direction of this community at the moment. Regarding delegation of votes, definitely possible and it's a good idea too. There's a few ways to do it; for us this will likely come under another proposal along with the APIs.

As someone on your youtube comments said, it's probably possible to do it via dashcentral voting which would be fine by us. A method integrated with DashRemix could be to have a 'curator' system, e.g. MNOs which use our rubric framework to do their own evaluations. Other MNOs could follow these MNOs and choose to vote based on their evaluations. This requires a bit of trust that they are using the rubric properly and and raise some more issues to think about around conflicts of interest, best and worst case scenarios etc, but there is probably an outcome there which works well enough. If you're a gamer it may look similar (but in a more structured manner) to the Steam curators functionality in some way.

Thanks and regards,
Jack @ DR
 

satoshilives

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Hey Singleton, thanks for having a read. Actually we were introduced to DASH by some pretty recognisable names in the community and came up with the idea after a few discussions with them, precisely about the number of proposals that come up each voting cycle. We've let them know our proposal is up for discussion and I'll let them give their thoughts, good or bad!

I can show you some of the work we've done at CoinRemix, ultimately it works to a slower drumbeat than DashRemix will have to, and on a different model, but the level of analysis should be heartening. I also aim to get a video up before we submit, which goes through a bit of that process too.

Regarding your latest question, right now we have a rough roadmap in mind which are additional proposals. Phase 1 is as you see, phase 2 is detailed there too (mostly around the API). Phase 3 we have some ideas for additions to DashRemix, but I expect our ideas will change by then. We will have some ongoing running costs. It may even be that we hire additional people from the community (without conflicts of interest) to continue evaluating proposals against the rubric, just to make sure we get every proposal that comes out. I see this running a few ways:
  1. We continue adding value with new proposals that contain new features. This might just be a few proposals, or we might uncover a whole bunch of work that should get done and actually helps MNOs.
  2. At some point the features are pretty much locked (but open source if other proposals want to build on them) and we just ask for a lower amount of DASH as a running cost of completing the evaluation.
  3. If at any point it's not valuable to the community, our proposals stop getting through and it dies a natural death. Hopefully we don't reach this point and DashRemix is a really useful tool for MNOs and proposal owners in to the future.
Thanks :)
Lets see what phases 1, 2 and 3 look like before we fund it all right? Makes sense to have a plan before spending the money in my opinion.
 

JackDashRemix

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@satoshilives Totally agreed Satoshi. This proposal is just for the first part and I think we may reduce some of the scope and budget as mentioned in earlier comments.

We just wanted to make it clear that there are ideas for further development if this project is successful and useful for the community. Those ideas will probably change as we work on the project anyway.
 

TheSingleton

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@JackDashRemix
Hey, are you still working on this? I wouldn't recommend submitting this cycle but hopefully, with the increasing price next cycle there will be more space.