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By the contrary. From what I see here, quite a few Masternode owners are shortsighted and think short term only. They don't want a more inclusive system because they are afraid it would affect their immediate masternode dividends. That's the only reason. That's not long term thinking at all. Anything else is bullshit rationalizing.

When MN operators voted for Lamasu integration, that wasn't short term. It was so you would have added benefits, ease and accessibility.
 
When MN operators voted for Lamasu integration, that wasn't short term. It was so you would have added benefits, ease and accessibility.
I've voted for that one as well by the way. I really hope not all masternode owners are as shortsighted as some of the people who commented here.
 
It's like we are talking about DASH being closed or public company.
It is a service that pays the people that run it, work on it, develop it. Dash and Bitcoin are NOT a socialistic system, it grew out of libertarianism and the school of Austrian Economics. Libertarianism in that Satoshi wanted to cut down the government, and crony corporatism and take back our rights, and built Bitcoin on the philosophy of Austrian Economics.
 
How exactly could such a thing happen with masternodes holding more then 50% of voting power already? While many microinvesters will try to buy shares (DASH) for themself DASH price will be rocking up.

Simply holding dash does not make you a "micro investor", you didn't do anything. Do you hold US dollars as an investment?
 
Also, I dare anyone of you to go ahead and buy a BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY share, just one. How many of you savvy capitalists can afford one? How many of you have saved enough to afford a Berkshire share? I rest my case.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:BRK.A&ei=AE2jVrHvKdGAmAHZ5bHIBw

Who has $190k saved to buy 1 share? :) You would need a million dollars to own 5 shares.

Not true, you can easily look up their investment portfolio and do it yourself at a smaller level... or customise to fit your own perspective.
 
Simply holding dash does not make you a "micro investor", you didn't do anything. Do you hold US dollars as an investment?
Actually, I do hold US dollars as an investment right now:grin:. The thing is that my native currency is russian ruble. I get my salary and costs in it, and that is sad, btw :wink:
 
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Not true, you can easily look up their investment portfolio and do it yourself at a smaller level... or customise to fit your own perspective.
That's not the point. This happens to be a company that invests in other businesses but it could have been a different type of company.

Buying the same stuff they do is not active management, to sell and buy at the right time. So you don't get the same thing at all. They buy many companies dirt cheap, negotiate prices and so on. You don't get the same kinda` luxury to get in cheap. As some say you make money when you buy. And there's also the fees you'd pay to buy all these different stocks, which would be way more expensive than buying 1 company. Not to mention you won't get access to private companies.
 
Also, I dare anyone of you to go ahead and buy a BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY share, just one. How many of you savvy capitalists can afford one? How many of you have saved enough to afford a Berkshire share? I rest my case.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:BRK.A&ei=AE2jVrHvKdGAmAHZ5bHIBw

Who has $190k saved to buy 1 share? :) You would need a million dollars to own 5 shares.
This is a non-sequitur, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. And one day a single Dash may be worth the same amount, but it still won't matter, unless we need more masternodes.
 
This is a non-sequitur, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. And one day a single Dash may be worth the same amount, but it still won't matter, unless we need more masternodes.
We need sounds like collectivist talk. Are you a communist ? En garde! :)

Guess we strongly disagree on what DASH as a project needs.
 
That's not the point. This happens to be a company that invests in other businesses but it could have been a different type of company.

Buying the same stuff they do is not active management, to sell and buy at the right time. So you don't get the same thing at all. They buy many companies dirt cheap, negotiate prices and so on. You don't get the same kinda` luxury to get in cheap. As some say you make money when you buy. And there's also the fees you'd pay to buy all these different stocks, which would be way more expensive than buying 1 company. Not to mention you won't get access to private companies.
I'm sorry, you're so far off base. I can't help you. Evan set this ball rolling this way for a reason, and it's the very reason I'm here. I would leave if the basics changed. I'm certain you will not be able to change the course of Dash, so I honestly think maybe you should look into other projects?? Because you may never be happy here.
 
I'm sorry, you're so far off the base of reality. I can't help you. Evan set this ball rolling this way for a reason, and it's the very reason I'm here. I would leave if the basics changed. I'm certain you will not be able to change the course of Dash, so I honestly think maybe you should look into other projects?? Because you may never be happy here.

You haven't really tackled any of my points specifically, but made side comments that are totally unrelated.

I guess you're tired and need to get some sleep like you've said in an earlier post. I suggest you actually read the posts before jumping in to reply. Try again tomorrow with a fresh pair of eyes.
 
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That's not the point. This happens to be a company that invests in other businesses but it could have been a different type of company.

Buying the same stuff they do is not active management, to sell and buy at the right time. So you don't get the same thing at all. They buy many companies dirt cheap, negotiate prices and so on. You don't get the same kinda` luxury to get in cheap. As some say you make money when you buy. And there's also the fees you'd pay to buy all these different stocks, which would be way more expensive than buying 1 company. Not to mention you won't get access to private companies.

I don't mean to patronise, I say this with good intention; I think you would benefit from reading up on business, economics and democracy.. maybe take a course or something. You're missing a deeper understanding here of how things work. You just need to listen and absorb what is being said.
 
I don't mean to patronise, I say this with good intention; I think you would benefit from reading up on business, economics and democracy.. maybe take a course or something. You're missing a deeper understanding here of how things work. You just need to listen and absorb what is being said.
Another posts that's totally off and unrelated. It's what people do when they run out of arguments.

I probably know more about economics than a bunch of you naysayers put together.
 
This ----> "We need sounds like collectivist talk. Are you a communist ? En garde! :)" - for example - is a classic logical fallacy. Can you please tell me which one it is?
I was joking ffs. Go get some sleep and try to actually figure out what the idea here is.
 
No I'm tired too - sheesh - you guys like to argue - got mixed up who I was arguing with - hah. Just deleted. But seriously, one of us needs sleep - and someone up above needs to learn how to argue. Night night.
 
I don't mean to patronise, I say this with good intention; I think you would benefit from reading up on business, economics and democracy.. maybe take a course or something. You're missing a deeper understanding here of how things work. You just need to listen and absorb what is being said.
Like DASH is getting more and more closed/private company with its price is going up, but masternodes are OK with it? :smile:
 
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Another posts that's totally off and unrelated. It's what people do when they run out of arguments.

I'm probably know more about economics than a bunch of you naysayers put together.

Ssshh, just trust what I say, there's a reason we have two ears and one mouth. You're assuming too much; people like myself left school with no qualifications yet fought their way through college and got a degree. It's not good to judge people so quickly.
 
GrandMasterDash

Not sure how your education or lack there off is of any relevance here. What are we discussing here?

You've made the claim an individual can replicate what Warren Buffett does with his Berkshire company and I've explained why you are wrong and then you've went offtopic attacking me personally without having any arguments to counter what I've stated. So what are we talking about here? You were the one to throw around insults.
 
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