RC4 Compliant Mining Pools vs Non-Complying

[stonehedge]

This is where I get really confused. I don't understand how an RC3 pool can payout to an RC4 masternode...

 

[splawik21]

because the enforcment is on OFF mode....

If Evan press the button ON... all RC3 pools MNs are denied instantly

 

[stonehedge]

I assumed that RC3 pools can't see RC4 nodes because the number of times I was not getting paid by pools on RC3.

 

[vertoe]

I assumed that RC3 pools can't see RC4 nodes because the number of times I was not getting paid by pools on RC3.

Correctly. RC3 pools cant pay RC4 masternodes.

 

[stonehedge]

In that case, somehow wafflepool managed to pay a masternode running 10.12.31 today.

 

[UdjinM6]

aaaaand we hit 90% RC4 on paid blocks and 78% on all blocks!
https://drk.mn/blocks.html#perversion

 

[splawik21]

Please mine on pool that have been fully upgraded to RC4 !

Links useful to trace bad actors
https://drk.mn/blocks.html
http://drk.poolhash.org/mnode.html

Help by sending the pool on RC3 a friendly reminder to update to RC4 version

Link for pool operators to get info where update from etc:
http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/Important#Pool_Owners


Here are the pools who updated to RC4 - OK
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Mining.DarkcoinTalk.org
http://suchpool.pw/drk/
https://coinotron.com/coinotron/
https://www2.coinmine.pl/drk/
x11ltcbtccom (still 10% but at least they updated!)
pool_unknown_125
multipoolus
http://coinmine.pw/
http://simpledrk.com/
http://drk.cryptoadhd.com/
https://www.ltcrabbit.com/
https://mupool.com/?coin=DRK
http://darkcoin.miningpoolhub.com/
p2pool:
http://turing.darkco.in:7903/
http://drk.p2poolmining.us:7903/static/
http://eu.p2pool.sk:7903 & http://us.p2pool.sk:7903
http://p2drk.mupool.com/
http://darkcoin.fr:7903
http://p2pool.e-pool.net:7903/static/
http://darkcoin.kicks-ass.net/static/
128.199.252.211:7903/static/

Here are the pools who didn`t update to RC4 - KO
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http://wafflepool.com/ - INFORMED BY MAIL
http://drk.cif8.com/ - INFORMED BY MAIL
http://dark.v2.dedicatedpool.com/
https://www.minep.it/ - INFORMED BY PM BTCTALK
http://x11.greenpool.tk/ -
http://darkcoin.cryptocurrency.tw/ - INFORMED BY CONTACT FORM
https://cpu-pool.net/drk/ - INFORMED
https://dark.hashfaster.com/ - INFORMED
https://switchercoin.com/ - INFORMED
http://hashrate.org/ - INFORMED
drkhashlinkeu
nicehash
coinking.io - INFORMED BY TWITTER
https://www.ipominer.com/ - INFORMED BY EMAIL - Will NOT update till enforcment.
http://www.coinobox.ru/ - INFORMED BY EMAIL, SKYPE, CONTACT FORM

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UPDATED to 20.08.2014, 13:12

miningpoolhub - updated, just received a PM from the dev.

 

[vertoe]

I think some pools like ghash.io never check the coins activity, so they are only updating as soon as they notice all their blocks get orphaned. I say let's enforce
85.94% blocks payed, 63.72% of total blocks payed correctly

 

[splawik21]

I think some pools like ghash.io never check the coins activity, so they are only updating as soon as they notice all their blocks get orphaned. I say let's enforce
85.94% blocks payed, 63.72% of total blocks payed correctly

Vertoe I think now is the great opportunity.
The price is low if enforcment does not work the price will not go down much anyway

 

[jpr]

Is there a risk of unexpected fork with enforcement? How big is it now? 37% or 15%?

 

[elbereth]

If a clear date/time is established for the enforcement to go active, most of the 10% paying pools would switch to the correct percentage (maybe not the chinese x11*) prior to the switch (even non-paying would probably pay easily, code is available for all mining software). The risk of fork would be very low.

Should be easy to test on testnet if we manage to get the same ratios (more or less), from a few minutes ago figures:
- Majority of pools paying 20% and RC4 (68%)
- Some pools paying 10% and RC4 (17%)
- Some not paying at all (12%)
- I think the rest is negligible (non-RC4 paying either 10 or 20%).

Then Evan flip the switch on testnet and we see the behavior. I can bring up 15 masternodes and a p2pool. I can provide CPU hash power.

 

[vertoe]

someone announced cex.io stuff here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/cex-io-adds-darkcoin-btc-trading-pair.2091/
i used the chance to point out the ghash.io issue: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/cex-io-adds-darkcoin-btc-trading-pair.2091/#post-17427

 

[UdjinM6]

soooo.... I got 2 payments of last 10 my MNs were selected for, 8 other are "innmlist" or "tx_0_vout_1".... when will we test enforcement?

 

[splawik21]

soooo.... I got 2 payments of last 10 my MNs were selected for, 8 other are "innmlist" or "tx_0_vout_1".... when will we test enforcement?

I heard one time that you need to be very lucky to be unlucky like in this case

 

[UdjinM6]

I heard one time that you need to be very lucky to be unlucky like in this case

ahhhh.. thank you, I feel better now...:grin: but I really hope to hear some estimates/dates/plans here:wink:

 

[splawik21]

Enforcment will be pushed in RC5...finally,...
Dont worry, my last 29 payments 10 of them are innmlist or not_detected, so ~66% are paid rest not.

 

[vertoe]

Enforcment will be pushed in RC5...finally,...
Dont worry, my last 29 payments 10 of them are innmlist or not_detected, so ~66% are paid rest not.

Where do you read that? Didn't evan say we might push out enforcement earlier if rc4 works stable enough?

 

[splawik21]

enforcment will be before rc5

 

[splawik21]

I`ve already finished informing all bad actors again to move their ass on RC4

 

[vertoe]

I`ve already finished informing all bad actors again to move their ass on RC4

enforcing also means they need to pay 20% or else they will get orphans.