Pre-proposal: Preliminary Proposal: "0DASH - A DASH Games Platform(Phase 1)"

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GrandMasterDash

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Facebook links in proposal do not work.

Are you Zhang Da Zhi?
Do you know Zhang Da Zhi?
Are you related to Zhang Da Zhi?
 
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GrandMasterDash

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Out of a $300,000 proposal, you have allocated just $2000 for advertising production and $3000 for advertising publicity costs.
 
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TigerZEN

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Are you or was you connected in anyway to LuckChain?

http://bbs.luckchain.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=d3p6m4dcf4mi30atqsdeq8m5v0&topic=46.0

http://luckchain.org/


What is your physical address in Taiwan?

How is your planned reward system linked to dash? Is it on a separate blockchain?

Are you handling dash server side or client side?

Are you or was you connected in anyway to LuckChain?
----Sorry, I do not know what is LuckChain.

What is your physical address in Taiwan?
----Registered at Zhongzheng Dist. 0ffice at Shizheng Rd., Xitun Dist., Taichung City.

How is your planned reward system linked to dash? Is it on a separate blockchain?
----0DASH Reward is a cradle-style plan. Eventually will lead the game developers to apply for budget to DASH.


Are you handling dash server side or client side?
----0DASH is an integrated platform, like the DASH version of GooglePlay.
 

TigerZEN

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Out of a $300,000 proposal, you have allocated just $2000 for advertising production and $3000 for advertising publicity costs.
I think spend huge money to do marketing & advertising at this stage have no way to attract the public. We use incentives to make game developers support DASH, people who play games will naturally become DASH users.

I think all this budget apply should defined as marketing advertising costs of DASH.
 

GrandMasterDash

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Zdash and 0DASH are completely different. This domain (@163.com) is China email domain, people in Taiwan will never use that.
I know about the domain 163.com but the name similarity (0dash vs zdash) is too much of a coincidence for me, especially when you both are in the game and blockchain business.

There are other coincidences that are making me very uncomfortable. In your pdf proposal you say, "0dash team was established in April 2016...The original name is called BCG(BlockChain Game) platform".

Now look at the following link, also from 2016:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1632208

Use find-on-page and it clearly says "Blockchain Game Company".

And as stated above, when I do a whois on luckchain.org I can see "zdash" for admin email, whereas you come here as 0dash and claim to know nothing about it ("Sorry, I do not know what is LuckChain").
 

TigerZEN

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I know about the domain 163.com but the name similarity (0dash vs zdash) is too much of a coincidence for me, especially when you both are in the game and blockchain business.

There are other coincidences that are making me very uncomfortable. In your pdf proposal you say, "0dash team was established in April 2016...The original name is called BCG(BlockChain Game) platform".

Now look at the following link, also from 2016:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1632208

Use find-on-page and it clearly says "Blockchain Game Company".

And as stated above, when I do a whois on luckchain.org I can see "zdash" for admin email, whereas you come here as 0dash and claim to know nothing about it ("Sorry, I do not know what is LuckChain").

1.0dash vs zdash are completely different. So it does not exist on any coincidence. I do not know what disputes you have with them, I hope the discussion focused on the proposal. Hope that community can give us valuable advice.
I don't know what "zdash" meaning of, but 0 of "0dash" it's meant completely free.

2."BlockChain Game platform" is just an internal project name and project was not public. BlockChain Game platform is not business secret, Everyone can make this kind of project, but it is more difficult to complete it.
We wish to be the DASH version of GooglePlay, the page you provide is more like a gambling site. I think this is extremely different.

3.Again, sorry, I do not know what is LuckChain.

Thanks for your comments.
 

GrandMasterDash

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If no one really want to discuss the contents of the proposal, how do I proceed?
1. given the amount you're asking for, and
2. given I don't understand your proposition, and
3. given I find it difficult to prove who you are....

I think the best thing to do would be to setup video interviews with Cash Alternative TV, Dash Force News and BoxMining. Especially BoxMining because he's in the gaming industry and speaks fluent mandarin / english.
 
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TigerZEN

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1. given the amount you're asking for, and
2. given I don't understand your proposition, and
3. given I find it difficult to prove who you are....

I think the best thing to do would be to setup video interviews with Cash Alternative TV, Dash Force News and BoxMining. Especially BoxMining because he's in the gaming industry and speaks fluent mandarin / english.
My proposition is simple.
Establish a platform to be the DASH version of GooglePlay.
And this platform is not profitable.

Another question you have doubted about us, I feel that there is no logical at all.
You think I'm another gambling site Luckchain. but your information in the WHOIS query show that we are not related.

Luckchain was registered domain in Chengdu city of China, their office in Shenzhen city of Guangdong Province(China).

0Dash was registered in Taipei city of Taiwan. If you know the contradictions and conflicts between China and Taiwan, You will know that we can not have any connection, it's like the relationship between Pakistan and India, Especially in the young people this generation is more obvious.

If You have any grievances with Luckchain, I think you got the wrong guy.
This proposal should be closer to what you said.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/luckygames-provably-fair-premium-dash-casino.15624/#post-131747


By the way, Your suggestion I feel great, recently I will shoot a self-introduction video, let the community know more about us.

Thanks for your advice.
 

GrandMasterDash

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My proposition is simple.
Establish a platform to be the DASH version of GooglePlay.
And this platform is not profitable.

Another question you have doubted about us, I feel that there is no logical at all.
You think I'm another gambling site Luckchain. but your information in the WHOIS query show that we are not related.

Luckchain was registered domain in Chengdu city of China, their office in Shenzhen city of Guangdong Province(China).

0Dash was registered in Taipei city of Taiwan. If you know the contradictions and conflicts between China and Taiwan, You will know that we can not have any connection, it's like the relationship between Pakistan and India, Especially in the young people this generation is more obvious.

If You have any grievances with Luckchain, I think you got the wrong guy.
This proposal should be closer to what you said.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/luckygames-provably-fair-premium-dash-casino.15624/#post-131747


By the way, Your suggestion I feel great, recently I will shoot a self-introduction video, let the community know more about us.

Thanks for your advice.
Relax. There are thousands of MNOs, I'm just one person. I simply said, given the amount you're asking, it might be a good idea to make yourself known by way of video interviews etc.
 
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alex9

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1)Importing 10 game developers support DASH.Including contract and technical support costs.>>($6,000 each)
$60,000

2)Importing 100 game developers upload games to 0DASH.Including contract and technical support costs.>>($600 each)
$60,000
What do you mean by import? Are you going to use this money to motivate developers to move to your platform? $120'000 for 110 games?

3)Database system integration.
($3,000/mouth)
$21,000
5)Various types of hardware integration development.
($4,000/mouth)
$28,000
What do these 2 items mean?
 
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TigerZEN

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What do you mean by import? Are you going to use this money to motivate developers to move to your platform? $120'000 for 110 games?




What do these 2 items mean?
1.
Yes, correct.
100 games do not support DASH, is authorized to upload and connect with database.
Another 10 games support DASH require a lot of technical work and debugging.
This cost includes Authorization and technical support.


2.Database system integration is:
Database development and integration of game developer data.


3.Various types of hardware integration development is:
Collect all kinds of smart mobile device, and test the compatibility.
Advise database programmer and app programmer to improve.
 

Leonidas

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Who are those guys who give you so many likes ? "Users profiles dont exist"... It's just like they'd been created and then deleted... This proposal is getting weirder and weirder
 

alex9

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Who are those guys who give you so many likes ? "Users profiles dont exist"... It's just like they'd been created and then deleted... This proposal is getting weirder and weirder
I also carefully looked at their facebook page. The first post of August 30 and more than 40,000 subscribers, comments not in English are clearly made with something like Google translator. Definitely fake activity. A big red flag!
 

TigerZEN

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Who are those guys who give you so many likes ? "Users profiles dont exist"... It's just like they'd been created and then deleted... This proposal is getting weirder and weirder
Because several supporters want to support this proposal, but they don't understand the provisions of the community forum, they over-posted in other forums page, causing their account to be suspended. I am sorry about that, I have told supporters to stop joining the proposal discuss and press like, let this proposal discuss will be more neutral & normal.
 

TigerZEN

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I also carefully looked at their facebook page. The first post of August 30 and more than 40,000 subscribers, comments not in English are clearly made with something like Google translator. Definitely fake activity. A big red flag!
Because the project name has change, our Facebook fan page has been modifier this year, Lost 10,000 followers, we have paid a lot of resources on this project.
 

TigerZEN

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Dear Distinguished Master Owners, I hope that you can provide advice to this proposal, so I can adjusted and execute the project in a way that maximize benefit to the DASH community.
 

UdjinM6

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Because several supporters want to support this proposal, but they don't understand the provisions of the community forum, they over-posted in other forums page, causing their account to be suspended.
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That's not true for at least few of them, I know it for sure because I banned them.

These accounts:
- were registered at almost the same time (~3d ago);
- had no activity in other threads;
- had a lot of (supportive) activity in this single thread;
- had clearly fake profiles (name/profile picture mismatch pattern).

I'm sorry but this won't work.

EDIT: removed their ratings from your posts as well
 

alex9

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Because the project name has change, our Facebook fan page has been modifier this year, Lost 10,000 followers, we have paid a lot of resources on this project.
These facebook accounts are obvious fakes. There are many comments in my native language - all of them are definitely made using an automatic translator. By the way, I made screenshots from all these comments, in case you decide to delete them.
MNOs are not dumb as you may think.
 

TigerZEN

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That's not true for at least few of them, I know it for sure because I banned them.

These accounts:
- were registered at almost the same time (~3d ago);
- had no activity in other threads;
- had a lot of (supportive) activity in this single thread;
- had clearly fake profiles (name/profile picture mismatch pattern).

I'm sorry but this won't work.

EDIT: removed their ratings from your posts as well
I'm sorry for our supporters violate the rules, I think this project should be screwed up.
If this flaw cause the value of this project to be ignored, it's a great loss...

Please remove the whole pre-proposal, I will find another way to proceed this project, thank you.
 

TroyDASH

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Wow, what a joke. On the bright side, you saved yourself from wasting the 5 dash proposal fee, assuming you don't try again
 
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GrandMasterDash

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I wonder if it's worthwhile chasing and prosecuting a few of these to set an example