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Discussion in 'Pre + Budget Proposal Discussions' started by DashDocumentary, Nov 5, 2017.

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    We have submitted a proposal for a Dash Documentary, and we want to allow the community to have their say on what will be included in the content of the documentary. We will answer all questions that are submitted, as well as consider every suggestion for the final project.
     
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    A documentary on a project that hasn't even fulfilled its potential?

    What is the movie going to talk about for 90 minutes? You need 10-20 min for current features at max. And then a 70 minute explanation on what Dash plans to do? That would be a feature-length ad, not a documentary, which is supposed to provide a historical account on what happened, not what's going to happen.

    Dash has done nothing movie-worthy yet. Let it deliver first. Then you might consider making movies about it.

    Any evidence for that? Because to me it felt more like they were merely preaching to the choir. Didn't see any price increases in the weeks after their respective releases.

    And finally: No pre-proposal and even worse: no escrow at that value = solid no.
     
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    Hi Troy, we are in the process getting this sorted and will have them connected tomorrow.
     
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    Hi Macrochip, thanks for your comments.

    The documentary is designed to be about the potential of Dash and Cryptocurrencies, as well as the ground they are making within the financial system. It is not to discuss them after they have already become a success. It's aim is to encourage people to participate in the market.

    The length of the documentary and exactly how long each topic will be covered for is still to be decided, Dash will be a large portion of the subject matter, but it is not going to be a direct advertisement for Dash. A documentary is not limited to discussing historical events, but current breakthroughs and cited forecasts for how things could develop in the near future.

    Rise and Rise of Bitcoin has become the standard documentary for people looking to learn about Cryptocurrencies in the comfort of their sofas. They are still discussed today and seen as a key milestone for information about the market. Targeting audiences who want to gain an overview on new financial technologies, alongside being entertained is our aim. In this current climate more and more people are having a interest in cryptocurrencies and are seeking out high quality documentaries to find out more about the market.

    Allowing the proposal to run over the course of 6 months, assures the Masternodes that this project can be tracked and reassessed each month.
     
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    Sounds like a cool idea, I have come across people who have watched Rise and Rise of bitcoin and it got them into the crypto sphere. It would be great to see a DASH focused documentary if you could get a deal with HuLu or Netfix such wow!
     
  7. RGXDK

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    Voting NO, easily. It's a ridiculous amount of money and you'll have to do it all again once Evolution is released in 1-2 years because Dash will be so much different. The cost per conversion will be unreasonably high and not measurable
     
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    Hi RGXDK, to make a high quality documentary the funding cost is actually going to be tight, and we will be 100% transparent with our expenditures. As you highlighted, there could easily be a follow up piece, and we want to pave the way for future documentaries and create exposure on the build up to Dash's new releases.

    No currency outside of bitcoin has a large scale documentary and this is the perfect time to take that place, before a competing currency fills the opportunity.

    The conversion rate of the documentary cannot be directly measured in the way of figures and spikes in the price charts. Instead allowing people to share it and refer to is as the best way of gaining a foundation of knowledge about the current market.

    Anyone who wants to know about Cryptocurrencies can watch Rise and Rise or Banking on Bitcoin to gain a basic knowledge of Bitcoin. We are simply the next source of information, centred around new currencies and new technologies, with Dash as a focus.
     
  9. RGXDK

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    @DashDocumentary

    Dash doesn't need documentaries and we don't spend $300,000 on vague things like "creating exposure". If your proposal doesn't have a measurable ROI it shouldn't be funded. Also you'd have to redo all in a few months of this because of what I said above.
     
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    No. I agree with RGXDK.
     
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    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for all the initial feedback. We see now that a pre-proposal would have beneficial in assuring that initial concerns were addressed. We decided that it was more important to ensure that we were there at the beginning of the cycle, which was potentially a mistake on our part.

    We feel time is of the essence to create a documentary of this scale, any time now another currency could take this idea and tap into the audience looking into the evolution of cryptocurrencies.

    In regard to the feedback, we will be developing this project alongside the Dash Community's support and participation. We encourage ideas and constructive feedback on topics worth covering. We have already planned to include covering the build up to Dash Evolution as we see it as a huge part of the future of Dash and the way people use Cryptocurrencies.

    In regards to the scale of the documentary, I am afraid for the cost of a professional documentary means our budget is relatively low and we know it's going to be tight. If you guys are looking for a more home made youtube documentary then I am afraid we are not the team for the job due to the experience and level of skill. If you want to make a professional documentary about the future and direction of cryptocurrencies which Dash is the main focus, then this very much worth voting yes for.

    With concerns about the cost of the documentary, this is not aspiring to be another YouTube informational video on Dash. But an in-depth analysis of the market, crafted together into a cinematic piece, fit for distribution. We offer absolute transparency on how the money is spent, the direction of the project, pre-production materials and constant updates on progression.
     
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    I think the money is too excessive without a clear ROI
     
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    Hi JZA, we appreciate your concern about not having a clear ROI.

    We will do everything we can to make our audience and return measurable. We've thought about a few methods of quantifying conversions, adding links to our website at the end of the documentary so that we can see trace website popularity. Providing methods of investing into markets by using tracking links. Asking people about how they found us when they sign up to our newsletter, things like that.

    There's also view counts on whichever platform it gets placed on, which will be accompanied with traceable URL's, community discussion boards for newcomers, PPV count (if applicable), physical sales, etc.

    This isn't necessarily about making a financial return. It's more a place that people within the community can share with people who are interested. It becomes a base for information about Dash and Cryptocurrencies that anyone can reference. It puts the name of Dash in as many places as possible, as well as on a variety of different news and article websites.

    It can also be used as a milestone in Dash's history, a foundation for future documentaries and YouTube channels to build on.
     
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    Yes it absolutely 100% is, and because your proposal offers doubtful or unmeasurable ROI it should be voted NO.
     
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    Hi RGXDK, thank you for your further comments.

    Ask yourself, are people more likely to invest in Dash from seeing an advert or from seeing an informative piece? This documentary isn't about making money, it's about getting Dash the exposure and giving reasons for people to invest in Dash. A documentary offers something more than an advert by giving people a visual understanding. And to clarify, almost no advertising campaign for Dash offers an accurately measurable ROI, it simply can't be achieved through most means of advertising.
     
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    You are missing the point IMHO, most of the issues here is, there is no plan on how to achieve a return, and there is no guaranteed people will look, find and watch a documentary for dash. At least not one you are making people from the community believe in. Also not even sure there is enough material to bring a story yet. And finally, is there a preview of how would it look like?
     
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    Hey JZA, we appreciate your opinion on this. I don't think there's any way of guaranteeing anything when it comes to advertising. We think there is absolutely enough material to talk about when it comes to Cryptocurrencies, there's a huge amount going on right now. Preview wise, we have a showreel and a few projects that we have worked on recently, they can be found here: vimeo.com/liturn, and will be uploading more content later in this month.
     
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    But you see thats the issue, one one said you have no projection but on the other side your e asking ofr a lot of money. That is having a high risk for a doubtful reward. I will suggest lowering your price and set modest goals. A documentary with no projection is sort of overcomiting to a very abstract goal. I would rethink this into a smaller budget production and test the watters in case of a reward, only THEN will think of updating to a full fledge documentary effort. ATM I dont see much demand for it.
     
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    JZA, I'm glad you are looking out for Dash, and looking for good and measurable ROI's on projects.

    But if I might ask, what is the ROI on Dash Global News site? Yes, your project. I see expenses reported pretty well, but I don't see any measurable ROI. How is your project any better than the proposed Dash Documentary on "how to achieve a return"?

    I'm not suggesting we shouldn't fund your project. But how can you ask them for more specific ROI when you haven't given specific ROI either?
     
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    Hi Guys,

    We have 3 days left, if you haven't yet had a look at our proposal please have a look on the links below.

    The Proposal : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DashDocumentary

    Examples of our work : https://www.vimeo.com/liturn

    Interview with Craig Mason :

    Our Q & A Session :

    Article on Dash Force News : https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-documentary-pre-proposal-review/

    With Dash’s phenomenal growth this month. I think you'll agree that it's the perfect time to start a documentary so that we can give those who aren't in the cryptocurrency scene a chance to get educated and become a part of the dash revolution.

    We are the right team for this job, we have the passion, the resources, the drive and we will make a documentary Dash can be proud of.

    Please join us on this journey and lets work together to make Dash even Greater!

    The Dash Documentary Team
     
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    Hi Guys
    Craig and Paul Mason have also just reviewed our proposal which can be found here :

    With the deadline coming ever closer, please vote yes for us and help us create this documentary to make Dash even greater.
     
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    ROI is clearly visible by the amount of languages that are not being served on the dash ecosystem. Most of DG writers are engaged with their own communities and languages.

    I can tell you for a fact that the Spanish community has grown by magnitudes since we launched dash Spanish. People from Venezuela came around, Colombia and Spain.
     
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    And, the ROI is just as visible for a good documentary to come out next summer when a jillion people are going to start asking serious questions about cryptocurrency in general, and Dash in particular.

    I wasn't suggesting that we not fund your project. I was making a favorable comparison to your project. I was suggesting that the ROI on the documentary was similar to the ROI on a robust foreign language news project for Dash. Obvious and worthwhile ROI, but hard to quantify.
     
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    A copy of my post over on DashCentral:


    stillcantstop 3 points,13 hours ago

    There is still 2,000 Dash in the pot. Even if Core puts in a hefty proposal at the last minute, the Dash Documentary would still easily fit. So there is no question that we can easily afford this.

    I do not see it as premature since it will come out about the time Evolution rolls out for real.

    I monitor various search stats on Google trends. I also monitor the number of users in the big crypto forums on Reddit, along with how many users we get in the Dash specific forums.
    What those trends tell me is that cryptocurrency in general is about to hit mainstream big time. I'm starting to see ads on mainstream TV that talk about blockchain tech to track tomatoes and help businesses be more efficient.

    The take home message is that around 100 million people are going to start asking serious questions about cryptocurrency in the next year. Any time there is overwhelming demand for an informational product like that--the market is going to supply one.

    So we have a choice. We can have some influence in how the latest crypto documentary gets made, and how Dash is portrayed in that documentary.

    Or, we can let somebody else make the documentary that will come up on all those google searches next summer. And who can say how some other group would portray Dash? Have we generally been portrayed fairly in the past? I would answer that question in the strong negative.

    The information vacuum that occurs next summer will be filled with something. Why would we not fund this project to have some influence over what that information looks like? Let's stack the deck in our favor for a change.

    Plus, we're like swimming in Treasury money. So again, why wouldn't we do this?

    Carry on, have fun, win!

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    Well I'm not talking about ROI as far as quantification. I'm talking ROI as a value added. Just like a news site in French where there is no news in French will provoke a return to the network.

    What is the value proposition of a documentary? Why now and what has done for other networks like Bitcoin.

    For example the max Keiser GAP sponsorship, people can see the value (without needing quantification), on having the dash brand associated with a revered economist.
     
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    A jillion people are going to want to know about crypto next year. If WE make a documentary, WE have better control of the factual and credible presentation about Dash. If we don't do it, somebody else will, and I doubt Dash will be fairly presented. Historically, Dash has been characterized very unfairly and very inaccurately. Why would we pass up this opportunity to do it right this time?

    If you can't see that as valuable, I guess I can't help you.
     
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    Because I wanna be ore assured the jillions will watch it indeed.
     
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    We're getting close ladies and gentlemen.
    If we're all going to be rich, we may as well be famous too. Kidding...I have no interest in notoriety.

    I would rather have the documentary and not need it, than need it and not have it.

    And if it goes well, and it turns out awesome, then we also have a relationship with some talented film makers. That would not be a bad thing to have in our pocket.

    solarguy
     

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