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    "DCG and DIF are requesting ~500 dash per month for the next 6 months for dash platform marketing warchest. Thank you."

    If DCG knew they faced more 'no' votes every month surely they would be more transparent and responsive. As long as MNOs see the treasury as free money they will keep spending it without putting any pressure on the recipients. Its too easy for them, and the results speak for themselves.
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Folks, the treasury's 'free money' problem will not go away. Only when we make the necessary adjustment from 'free money' to 'my money' will spending get smarter. Look at nearly any government in the world, where the answer is to 'throw money at the problem'. Extremely large amounts of money are...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    Correct, that is the intent. Please see the new thread where we are continuing discussions, and vote in the poll.
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    vazaki3, I understand your desire for an 'other' option. However, my goal here is focused on creating a sense of ownership over the treasury funds. Currently it is viewed as free money and is handed out freely to ineffective POs. If the masternodes feel like it is coming out if their own...
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Geert, on my first proposal on Dash Central, you claimed that this adjustment was your idea. At that point it became clear you are a troll, and this will be my only response to you. If you decide to continue to troll, that is up to you. Source...
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Folks, we really are sliding into oblivion. It does no good to be in denial. All the various projects funded over the years would have prevented it if they were effective. The "other people's money" or "free money" problem is real. We must grant leftover dash to masternodes or split with miners...
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    Decision Proposal: Increase Proposal System Flexibility & Efficiency

    Please take a moment to vote in a poll to adjust incentives: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/pre-proposal-solving-the-free-money-treasury-problem.51107/unread
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Folks, keep in mind I set up this poll so you can change your vote as you see fit.
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    If you are a member of discord or other platforms, your help in reaching out to those users would be appreciated. I agree with qwizzie that this is something that needs to be discussed transparently here out on the open internet. Get those folks out here, please. Also, keep in mind that it is...
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Thanks for your comment, the snark you put into it gave me a laugh. To your first question, It was inspired by @rick, but I feel the solid logic should be applied to the treasury as-is before any increase. Here is my first comment suggesting the idea, back on January 16, 2020. Here is my first...
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    The status quo is definitely the safer option, but the results so far speak for themselves. We are in the 30s. It matters. Outside of funding development, all other efforts have proven to be ineffective in adoption. The slide will continue. Even if evolution comes out, the MNOs will continue to...
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    Pre-Proposal: Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem

    Solving the 'Free Money' treasury problem: Other than funding developers and some early progress in venezuela, the Dash treasury has proven largely ineffective over the long term. Anyone being honest and objective can see that. Millions and millions of dollars worth of dash has been handed out...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    We must solve the Other People's Money problem! The simplest way to address it is to have leftover funds be given to those who restrain spending.
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    MNO incentives

    Thanks qwizzie, but I think I'm done with this shitshow. Feel free to submit it yourself, you have more masternodes than I do. I already blew 5 dash on my first proposal, and I got zero participation on the pre-proposal discussion, including you, and now all these bozos hiding out on discord are...
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    MNO incentives

    Hello Dash community, A couple cycles ago I submitted a proposal aimed at incentivizing greater MNO participation in evaluating and voting on proposals. It received almost zero comments on the forums, and a few weeks later I submitted it anyway. It went down in flames, and while I'm out 5 dash...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    Thanks for the correction. It would have been great to have your participation earlier. No, in the end that makes no difference to this proposal. I encourage you to read the entire post and you will understand how incentives shift perspectives and behavior. This adjustment intends to put 'skin...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    The proposal has been submitted, please vote! https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Decision-GrantLeftoverFundsToMasternodes
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    I'm not sure why you think this will mean more money for DCG. Yes, excess dash is burned, but the vast majority of cycles it has gone to dubious proposals with zero ROI, because MNOs believe they shouldnt waste it, so they think they should spend all of it. The excess will now go to MNOs. They...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    I get the impression you read the thread title, but not the actual post. When handing out money, the last thing it should be is impartial. That is the reason the greatest governance system in crypto has had such abysmal results. It should be very partial. It should require great scrutiny. It...
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    Pre-proposal: Grant to masternodes all leftover treasury funds each cycle.

    A new budget cycle has begun. I will submit this proposal on August 6 if DCG has not already submitted theirs. Also, as I feel strongly that leftover funds should be addressed before raising the treasury cap, I will still submit my proposal if DCG's includes both.
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