You make it sound like I want less nodes because I want to have the consensus of Dash Platform in the hands of less people. This can not be further from the case.
Is there still consensus if 1 dev voted for Platform on all nodes ?
That clears that up then. Pretty much the same result as the initial outcome of the poll (at least with regards to Platform on all nodes).
Cool, i hope you have a better view of why we are polling. To us, it seems that HPM seem like the lesser evil, but we know it has drawbacks and that the community must ultimately have the say on what is going on. Not black and white :b
Is it possible to complement a shortage of collateralized nodes with voluntary nodes, in particular when bootstrapping the platform network?
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Sorry, I don't understand/find the answers.
See edit in my previous post, i am currently not sure of anything.
That's just the very typical attempts to avoid responsibility you and @QuantumExplorer show all these days! "That's not us! We only do the proposals! Network decides!!"
I'm currently trying to work on something else, so i will wait to have more time to answer the real questions with proper look at numbers. But such an ad hominem though, i can't let it there for long without answering, you are forcing my hand. It's cutting my work midway and reduces efficency by a bunch.
I invite you to watch the presentation by QE or read my comments, we have covered the why of this poll rather extensively. I repeated in this conversation also a few of the necessities. I hope that you, from the talk here i had with mostly qwizzie, can see that i infact don't especially lean toward a way or another, as long as some nodes do not support Platform. I think some parameters are better yes. Now you can trust the math or you don't, that's another story.
another quick answer, i have not followed that actively, but i think there is a whale/exchange which has lagged behind on the last big update, maybe it is related?Just curious about the recent uptick in active masternodes:
Dash Masternode Information
178.254.23.111
If this number continues upwards as we go into voting... is there a possibility of collusion to try and swing votes? I mean to say, can someone at MNOWatch fingerprint recently activated nodes? Maybe I'm just being paranoid.
If you have work to do - then do it, stop wasting your time answering me. That's not a rhetorical or irony, I'm dead serious. English isn't my native, so I want to repeat myself - return to work. If I have any say in that - do your code, this whole forum including me can really wait.
No, that's not true! You try to avoid resposibility not by asking the community but by saying that you do not decide. You do. Not alone, of course, we all do in much or less.
Now when you said that, I thought again and now I think that's not the way you deal with the situation I don't like but your position. Both of you. If the whole team votes for raising the collateral - then I don't like the whole team's position. I would prefer if you all loudly leaned to decentralization while offering the same ways to go and the same calculations.
So is it a matter of math or is it your opinion? "I think some parameters are better..." or "...trust the math!"
We all have a say in it of course. I decide, you decide, QE decide. Ultimately the internal coding order is through QE as CTO yes, and i have a higher say in it given i am very much into design. If there is a fuck up one day, do come and ask accounts from me and QE. I will never say otherwise. Then i'll accept my fuckups, quote me on it.
We did offer the same numbers for all the choice of nodes supporting Platform, Are you talking about that?
My opinion is based on the math. I trust the math and it shows to me that the most optimized/secure choice without sacrifcing too much decentralization happens to be HPM's if you ask me. You can debate but we all have a view of what is better, i'm not here to convince you, I stated why i was for HPM's so you can look up in the discussion in the past 20 messages what i have been stating. If it changes your mind, great. If it doesn't, good too, you'll vote and the community decides. Although if i keep repeating myself it'll sound like i'm trying to throw my views at you. One thing i do want to state though is that i do not think it's a step toward censorship as the number of HPM's are still high enough for a starter. Keep in mind it's for a launch parameter. It's not a forever choice.
Thank you, I highly appreciate it. It means a lot given that In times like that it is like a wave of anger and negative emotions thrown at us and it often is disheartening.
Oh wow, purposely attacking me, you much have been bullied in school, sorry to hear but keep it profesional, or have never heard about the left side and the right side of the brain, and how they work together and even sometimes fight eachother.
You said "Stop thinking with just your logical part of the brain", so this tongue in cheek answer was in answer to that. I apologize if it came off as insulting. I am glad to see that we agree though.
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Well that at least somewhat positive to hear, but why than not provide HPnodes with just one vote just like masternodes, regardless of stack, that at least would a small stop gap.