Proposal for PIVX: Adaptive Proposal Fees

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In the meantime, the reaction from the PIVX community seems very positive.
https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposal-fees/1072/8?u=demo

 

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For everyone who is interested in fundrasing the Adaptive-proposal-Fees (version 2) in PIVX, here is the address.
https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposal-fees/1072/11

When the 50 PIV will be reached in my PIV address, I will post the proposal into the PIVX budget system.

 

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Whoever is a PIVX masternode, he may vote in a similar proposal that was submitted there: https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098

You can check how many votes the PIVX proposal received there:
http://178.254.23.111/~pub/DN/DN_masternode_payments_stats.html
and compare them to the votes the DASH proposal received here:
https://dashvotetracker.com/history.php?ProposalID=271

That way you can judge (and compare) the prudence of the DASH community leaders (aka the MNOs, or the whales ) and of the PIVX community leaders.

 

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Whoever is a PIVX masternode, he may vote in a similar proposal that was submitted there: https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098

You can check how many votes the PIVX proposal received there:
http://178.254.23.111/~pub/DN/DN_masternode_payments_stats.html
and compare them to the votes the DASH proposal received here:
https://dashvotetracker.com/history.php?ProposalID=271

That way you can judge (and compare) the prudence of the DASH community leaders (aka the MNOs, or the whales ) and of the PIVX community leaders.

My proposal does not appear now in the PIVX budget system although it used to appear a couple of hours before.
The PIVX development team is looking at it.

Read here their answer:
https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098/9

 

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There are forces in PIVX that dont like to vote the numbers at all.
Have a look at my story there, and to what happened to the proposal of the Adaptive-ProposalFee
https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098/10

At least the 1/5 of the PIVX masternodes dislike the Adaptive-ProposalFee for sure!
But they did an error, they revealed their intentions early, although the strategic voting requires to vote the last minute.
So lets wait for a month, to see what it will happen in the PIVX universe, regarding the adaptive proposal fee issue.

In the meantime, watch the Dashvotetracker carefully
https://dashvotetracker.com/history.php?ProposalID=271

 

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The 400 negative votes from the PIVX Masternodes were probably all hosted in @coin-server which is now down. (reference: https://forum.pivx.org/t/cdg-mno-approval/910/4 ). The initial 400 negative votes are not valid at the moment. Currently the Adaptive-ProposalFee proposal at PIVX is voted as follows:

<vote history>
Current Number of Masternodes: 1189 (unique IPs: 1189, IPv6: 377, TOR: 409)
Proposal 12: Adaptive-ProposalFee Yes: 35 / No: 28
Command: pivx-cli mnbudget vote ed56d683274c95a75a3ab169332d799310305388bf44888adec799058f2fdfa3 yes | no
</vote history>

 

[Pietro Speroni]

The 400 negative votes from the PIVX Masternodes were probably all hosted in @coin-server which is now down. (reference: https://forum.pivx.org/t/cdg-mno-approval/910/4 ). The initial 400 negative votes are not valid at the moment. Currently the Adaptive-ProposalFee proposal at PIVX is voted as follows:

<vote history>
Current Number of Masternodes: 1189 (unique IPs: 1189, IPv6: 377, TOR: 409)
Proposal 12: Adaptive-ProposalFee Yes: 35 / No: 28
Command: pivx-cli mnbudget vote ed56d683274c95a75a3ab169332d799310305388bf44888adec799058f2fdfa3 yes | no
</vote history>

@demo if one person controls 400 nodes, out of 1200, the situation is not recoverable. I am sorry.

 

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@demo if one person controls 400 nodes, out of 1200, the situation is not recoverable. I am sorry.

I agree. Unless of course he decides to give his masternodes for free to other people, or he decides to give voting rights to some other actors and not only to the masternodes.... Everything depends on the will of the people who hold a lot of nodes.

But remember the same initial centraliazation happens whenever someone initially designs whatever coin. He has to make some initial decisions, and those decisions are centralized. Initially everything depends on the designers, the initial numbers are decided in a centralized manner, so centralization is always the first inevitable step.

The important thing is whoever has the centralized power (either being a designer/coder or a voter), to be dedicated in decentralization. So even if someone initialy holds 400 masternodes out of 1200, if he likes decentralization he may do some (big or small) steps towards the decentraliazation goal. And this is positive.

And here I am to encourage whoever holds centralized power, to give it away.

 

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Vote history1:
ref: https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098/21
<vote history>
Current Number of Masternodes: 1484 (unique IPs: 1484, IPv6: 655, TOR: 418)
Proposal 11: Adaptive-ProposalFee Yes: 119 / No: 137
Command: pivx-cli mnbudget vote ed56d683274c95a75a3ab169332d799310305388bf44888adec799058f2fdfa3 yes | no
</vote history>

Vote history2:
ref: https://forum.pivx.org/t/adaptive-proposalfee/1098/22
<vote-history>
Current Number of Masternodes: 1724 (unique IPs: 1724, IPv6: 902, TOR: 417)
The proposal is hidden (more than 10% negative votes)
</vote history>

Conclusion one: The TOR masternodes do not vote against the proposal.
Conclusion two: The total number of masternodes increased 240 votes and the number of IPV6 increased 247 nodes.

So all the negative votes came form IPv6 nodes.

 

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