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PinIdea ASIC X11 Miner DR-1 Hashrate 500MH/s @320w Weighs 4.5kg

Discussion in 'Hardware Discussions (ASIC / GPU / CPU)' started by soleo, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. soleo

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    Who are we?
    We are a group of engineers who work in four different cities (Shanghai, Wuxi, Shenzhen, Chicago) across U.S.A and China. In the past two years, we've been working on developing ASIC for X11 coins. And in the past few months, we have some breakthroughs on miners. Obviously, we have huge confidence on Dash which leads us to develop ASIC miner, even though the market isn't mature back then.

    Why announcing the news now?
    A few months ago, we announced we have an explorer version of X11 Miner. And we made a small batch of miners test the water of the market but we didn't deliver. The whole teams were split since then. Hearing about recent development on ASIC miner in Dash community, I contacted my past teammate to see how's everything going with them. It turned out that one of our engineers who is working with another vendor had a breakthrough, and performance is good enough for us to announce the news. PinIdea will be the only distributor for the Shooter Chip X11 Miners.

    When and how will the new models be shipped?
    50 devices would be available next month. Estimated to be shipped by the April 8th, 2016 via UPS, SF-Express from Mainland China. Update: April 15th is the latest shipping date now because of heat sinks replacement

    Is it legit?
    If you're living in Chicago, I'd be willing to demo it for you in person. In the past few days, we've been trying to arrange tests for someone trusted in Dash community. For anyone who is concerned about the legitimacy of the miners, we strongly recommend waiting for the test run report before buying.

    Mining Software?
    Support Linux (Tested only on Ubuntu), Windows
    Also, support running with Raspberry PI

    https://github.com/PinIdea/ASIC-X11-Miner/releases/tag/v1.0.1

    Documentation

    https://github.com/PinIdea/ASIC-X11-Miner/blob/master/DR-1/README.md

    Power Supply?
    You'll need to have your own power supply. Both PCI-E 6 and PCI-E 8 Pin would work.

    Specifications?
    Hash Rate: 500 MH/s ±10%
    Power Consumption: 280 W ±10%
    Number of Shooter chips per unit: 60
    Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
    Power Supply: ATX 12V required
    Dimensions: 290mm(L)*130mm(W)*150mm(H)
    Weight: 4.5kg

    Single ASIC Chip Performance
    Package Type: QFN64 8mm*8mm
    Interface: SPI
    Hash Rate: 8.5Mhash/s @400Mhz
    Power Consumption: 4.3W @400Mhz

    Payment Methods?
    Dash and BitCoin

    Price?
    500 Dash or equivalent amount in BTC per device. Shipping cost is included if it is less than 250 USD. Dash is the preferred payment method for us.

    Note
    Each buyer can only purchase one device at most.

    USB version miner video (screencast of 12 hours test)


    Final Product Testing Video




    Product Front And Back

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    More Info?
    More Video demos will be uploaded in next week. Dash MasterNode Wallet(Handheld device) is going to be released later this year. At the same time, we'll arrange group conversations with our Chinese Engineer in Tencent QQ to make full disclosure about our development on ASCI x11 Miners. PM me if you have any further questions or visit pinidea.io
     

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  2. Solarminer

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    pinidea.io isn't updated with this news. Maybe you could update it.

    Can you provide a cost estimate?
     
  3. BolehVPN

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    are these already running ?
     
  4. tungfa

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    iBeLink is this you ?

    edit
    anybody in Chicago to check this out ?
     
  5. soleo

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    I am definitely not IBeLink
     
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  6. BolehVPN

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    Dropped u a message soleo
     
  7. iBeLink

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    This is not iBeLink's products. If this is true, it is good news to Dash community and miners.

    iBeLink
     
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  8. oaxaca

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    Hi Soleo,

    Can you describe this handheld device in more detail?
     
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    Woow! Interesting. The race is on before they're actually delivering. Very different from the pre-order vs spec promis vs vaporware scame we saw with litecoin. This is also very new and promising in the world of crypto!

    soleo - ETA fo availability? Price?
     
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    This is very bad news for the DASH community.
    Decentralization - is one of the main ideas of Bitcoin and DASH.
    There will be no independent pools for Bitcoin soon. A few years later it happens to DASH.
    It is necessary to change the algorithm of mining, imho.

    Asic developers mining six months in the shade, now they want to sell these Asics and earn more money.
     
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    I live in Chicago and would be down to come check it out. Also how much?
     
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    I may be willing to check it out in Chicago. Send me a PM on available dates. Also, what is the cost for this device?
     
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    I remember these guys from a few months back. I emailed them requesting more information about selling one. They had USB prototypes similar to DualMiner USB's that they decided not to sell and removed all traces of its existence from the internet.
     
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    If it is them, they seemed legit and refunded my money when they decided not to sell.
     
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  15. soleo

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    It's updated now. The price is 500 Dash per device.

    The first batch is still in manufacturer's hands. Short answer "Nope".

    The first batch will be shipped between the third week and fourth week of March. It takes 10 days to get those devices delivered from China. The price is 500 Dash.

    2.4 ~ 3 inch touch screen with Wi-Fi and Cam for QR Code scanning.
    32GB ROM
    1GB RAM
     
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    What does it do?
     
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    The price is 500 Dash. And PM me to schedule a time slot so that you could see the demo in person.

    500 Dash.

    Yep, that's us. It was a difficult decision we have to make. But now we're confident about the product we're going to deliver.

    It embedded with Dash wallet program and store full blockchain.
    If you have more than 1000 Dash, it can act as masternode.
    The goal for the device is to speed up the whole process of making payment and make Dash even more suitable and convienient for real-life use cases.
     
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    Can you tell us a story?
    How long has the team been together?
    What skill sets do the team members have?
    When did you get the sample chips?
    What die size is the chip?
    How many chips did your run produce?
    What are your long term plans?
     
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  19. UdjinM6

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    soleo hello and welcome! :)

    Few notes.
    I cleaned up this time for you but please use single message to reply to many people instead of bloating the thread with multiple messages. Otherwise it's getting hard to read.
    Also please keep your first post updated with new info (price, specs, ETA etc). By doing this you'll help others to be always aware of the actual proposal.

    Thanks.
     
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    i from chinese qq group , i like game 横扫千军 仙侠道2 , these game made by www。xd。com
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    It seems pinidea is flagship subsidiary


     
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    i sent PM to you. but no reply.
     
  23. soleo

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    I don't know all the answers, but I'll try my best.

    Can you tell us a story?
    I wish I'm a better storyteller, but I am not. Here goes the story about us. We are a bunch of weirdos/nerds/perfectionist (Sorry, my teammates, allow me to use those words to describe us). The early members were chatting on some random topics online one day. One of them mentioned Dark Coin (aka Dash), and soon the whole group was amazed by this new kind of cryptocurrency. At the same time, they felt challenged by the keyword "ASIC resistance". With a CAN-DO attitude, they wanted to explore the possibilities to create ASCI chips for Dark Coin. With trials and errors, Dark Coin proved to be really hard to speed up. Lots of obstacles came up, and at one point they just want to give up and let it go. I joined the team last spring festival when I visited my family in China. I met other team members back then, was totally attracted by Dark Coin, decided to be one part of this team. We tried to deliver an early prototype last September to see how people would react, but our hardware developers in team insist on not selling them yet. The early prototypes are considered to be not good enough. We have zero tolerance on delivering a product which is not good enough. I shared the news with my teammates when I saw the recent developments on DashTalk who is delivering ASIC X11 Miners. And that's when I heard from my teammates that now we have a much better product comparing to the one we had before. We have no reason to hide it now and announced the news. However, we still firmly believe that we can do much better.

    How long has the team been together?
    Our team members are long time friends, but we started working on this project since Dash was born.

    What skill sets do the team members have?
    Our team members are extremely diverse. We have people who can do Chip Design to Software Development. In fact, it's a team made up with engineers. We all have our daytime jobs, and committed to this project in our spare time.

    When did you get the sample chips?
    November 2015

    What are your long term plans?
    Anonymous payment shouldn't be difficult for everyone. We believe in anonymous payment should be easy and elegant, and it should be basic human rights. That's why we start the project in the first place. The future plans would be providing mobile and fast ways to make payments with Dash. We want to bring Dash to everyone's daily life.


    Sorry, I'll keep them in mind.
     
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    Let me make sure I got this right. The original prototype in September did not work well, and 2 months later you were not only able to correct the design but fabricate new chips? Sounds improbable. What is the die size of the new chips?
     
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    soleo , I PM'ed you. Let me know when I can come check it out. Thanks.
     
  26. rentahash

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    I am interested in purchase,
    please change the title, you will get more potential buyers :)
    ASCI (ASIC) X11 Miner Hashrate 500MH/s @280w Weighs 4.5kg

    I would also like if somebody from Chicago visit soleo and confirm 500MH/s @280w :)
     
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    Well actually the prototype sticks had FPGA chips on them and wolf0 promised that they were impossible to work as it couldn't due the 11 algorithms or something to that sense. This means this would have to have come from a whole different fabrication or set up.
     
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    This looks like a very interesting development. I live in Illinois, a bit south of Chicago and would be interested in seeing a demo and posting the results to the community.

    In regards to what has been posted so far I do have a couple of questions. The mining software, is that something completely custom, or did you alter one of the existing projects used with other ASIC miners such as a variant of cgminer like the Antminers used? Will we be able to overclock at our own risk, or more interestingly for some of us, underclock these miners for greater efficiency?
     
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    Hey everyone, so this weekend I met up with soleo and he showed me his USB version of the miner. The miner runs on their own custom software. He said there will also be a linux and windows one that ships with the ASIC. He was doing some testing before I got there and it was running underclocked at 6MH/s. When he ran it at full power it took only a few minutes before the P2P was registering 8MH/s without any rejects that I saw. Also for what it is worth Soloe seems like someone who cares about DASH. We talked about his love of developing hardware and software, seems like a very normal person.

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    Thanks for the update, we appreciate you checking it out. I would like to visit them as well but this past weekend did not work for me.

    Soleo, do you have any estimates of performance/watt on your underclocking? Do you have a github repository for the software that we could check out?
     

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