- Apr 4, 2015
It's likely Evolution won't be out til' late 2017 or 2018. Do you expect clones before that? I think you're comparing what Dash will be to what other coins already have. Seems like you are a little in denial of where the competition is at.Two coin, three coin, ...
We will see dozens of Dash Evolution clones soon... We have seen all this before - with Bitcoin forks....
Got it - some of these coins have very interesting technologies - but all these coins have two things in common: 1. they have a market cap below 10000 BTC and 2. no infrastructure at all. They can be traded and exchanged to to other coins - that's it. Not comparable to DASH regarding their use case network. If you jump from one good coin to the next one every few months you will miss something out and other user will not do it.... I was just trying to be generic with amount of different options are available. Read the shadowcash thread posted above for the hint on the coin that does have the key Dash features.
- depends on size of network and blockchain confirmation count, we could do 1 conf spendable IX - does it really better?...
- One coin has instant locked transaction in .4 seconds that are respendable in 1 minute. (far cry from 1 second and respendable in 15 minutes)
- One coin has mixing that takes about 45 minutes. (far cry from the 2 days it takes Dash)
- Other coins mix when they spend so no wait at all.
- One coin has a dual address system so one address is always in a private/mixed network and the other is public. Sending private to private is always fungible and anonymous.
- One coin has a variable block size
- A few coins have a governance system and more will be adding it.
- 2 coins have the magic API wallet system. One is already testing an API wallet.
- One coin has a separate backed and lightweight frontend with all the user options.
- Lightning and/or Thunder could actually work.
- Many coins have wallets with built in market places, coin loaning options, exchanges inside wallet, 2nd layer assets,
I actually partially agree with that one - we should deliver updates more often. Changes in 12.1 were not so radical originally and it could be delivered in spring/summer 2016 with old budgeting system and tons of fixes but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The hope is that with a proper foundations for evo layed out in 12.1 we can then deliver updates at a faster rate....
There are a lot of good technologies out there. One coin in particular has many of these features and is not wasting time talking about how to spend budget money on advertising. lawyers, or conferences. They are just writing code and give solid weekly updates.
That could be true but I don't really think it is - masternodes are long term investments in general imo and for such things short term fluctuations is not a big deal, it's long term roi which matters. Speaking of budgets, the bigger the budget the higher the potential but even now there are not enough valuable proposals and we had like 800+ DASH "burned" in latest budget iirc....
I think the feedback loop with masternodes will not look like a drop in masternodes. There are are more and more coins put into Dash every day from block rewards. So the number of masternodes will keep growing. The problem is that the value of masternodes will fall. Once enough of a drop happens, the budgets will get smaller, and that further causes a collapse. It could be saved, but the mistakes I have seen make a drop likely.
Tezos is a coin going to be based on voting on code changes. It might get a lot of hype, by realistically a few key developers need to be involved in deciding which code is used, not a majority vote of people with minimal coding experience.What we need is a coin that is brave enough to lock down the source and binaries, implementing voting and supply chains such that they would have to ask us users / MNOs to make changes... haha, can you imagine that happening?? - ya see how it is... "crypto is getting rid of the FED / central bankers but please don't take our geek powers away!!!" .... hypocrites, all of them..
Tezos is a coin going to be based on voting on code changes. It might get a lot of hype, by realistically a few key developers need to be involved in deciding which code is used, not a majority vote of people with minimal coding experience.
Of course there is a way to identify people as individuals on decentralized networks. The cryptoparty assemblies.Tezos said:Voting using tokens is unfair, it should be one person one vote.
Pragmatically, there aren’t any good ways to identify people as individuals on decentralized networks yet. From an economic standpoint, stake based voting encourages more rational behavior because the people with the greatest voice are also the ones with the most skin in the game.
Take this as an opportunity to show how much is being done with Dash that the community doesn't see. Udjin did a great job of showing some differences. Your goal should be to learn what your competition is and how to do it better.what pointless thread / content. someone sold all there Dash...then is here talking about it..other people like other coins better...but strangely are here talking about it...brand new accounts... haven't we got better things to be doing, Dashers?
In The Republic, Plato describes five regimes (of which four are unjust). Timocracy is listed as the first "unjust" regime. Aristocracy degenerates into timocracy when, due to miscalculation on the part of its governed class, the next generation of guardians and auxiliaries includes persons of an inferior nature (the persons with souls made of iron or bronze, as opposed to the ideal guardians and auxiliaries, who have souls made of gold and silver). A timocracy, in choosing its leaders, is "inclining rather to the more high-spirited and simple-minded type, who are better suited for war". The city-state of Sparta provided Plato with a real-world model for this form of government.The Tezos people are stupid when saying.
Of course there is a way to identify people as individuals on decentralized networks. The cryptoparty assemblies.
And of course, this is a Déjà vu.
All the proponents of the stake based voting (Tezos and dashers included), they ignore history. This is how democracy starts. First they think that stake based voting is correct. First they think Timocracy is the correct regime. But then obvious problems appear in Timocracy (you can already observe here in dash the masternodes stupidity) and then Democracy (one person-one vote) arises.
Thanks for that, I didn't know about Tezos and it looks quite interesting, especially as they are also talking about formal verification. Definitely one to watch!Tezos is a coin going to be based on voting on code changes. It might get a lot of hype, by realistically a few key developers need to be involved in deciding which code is used, not a majority vote of people with minimal coding experience.
Very funny. Does the name change to DISH N DASH too?Evan told me Evolution will have over 160 TV channels, a cool calculator and every new mc donalds flyer. 13.1 will have Pizza hut support, too.
This is just a mockup of the new design. And the Evo wallet will be 5% longer (will nice scrollbars) than the next shadowcash wallet.
What does Tezos stand for?Thanks for that, I didn't know about Tezos and it looks quite interesting, especially as they are also talking about formal verification. Definitely one to watch!
Well, there are reasons Dash is loosing it's flash. It isn't the only locking transaction coin. It isn't the only anonymous coin. And it isn't the only coin with governance. There are competitors with all of these(or will be soon) that will do it better. So it isn't myopic to see better options. And it isn't myopic to see all the coinfirm news pushed as positive news which obviously had a very bad reaction...just look at the price.I'm just the molefish but I gotta say; at least with Dash I get the open style blockchain with the option to private send. I'm a bitcoin user in a large way, I essentially live off of it... but I got attracted to Dash as it retains the basis of what BTC is doing, yet has a friendly way to provide additional options.
Well, in the crypto space there is a similar dynamic occurring... there's no point in whining that Dash isn't like other coins... The bulk of the population are white list, good actor type users and Dash can serve us well and preserve privacy. Also don't even try to claim Etherium or LTC can fill this role, we can discuss that later in other threads to be sure if necessary...
I don't know everything there is to know about it, but the idea that Dash could be digital cash and BTC can remain as the crypto flagship actually entails a type of long tail view that could end up being not only beneficial to the overall space but also to Dash enthusiasts.
I think getting some of the newer cutting edge vending companies to take on Dash at the same time they begin to integrate bitcoin would be wise as it'd actually work better for the end user for that use case... yet many of these companies are already working to integrate BTC as a payment option on their new smart machines but Dash would be better for that... so yeah I think if people can push this in the right direction along side some of the other happenings with BTC then Dash's advantage would be easy to see and capitalize on to be sure.
I don't get it, can you elaborate pls - what's the connection between "ix detector" and "1gb/day"?...
As for the vending companies. You really can't do an instantx detector with reasonable bandwidth. Right now you are looking at 1GB/day with hardly any transactions. That is a huge amount and pretty much limits the possibility to use a cell data card.
Oh, sorry for jumping steps. The dashvend code is what I am referring to as an IX detector. That is what we used on the Dash N Drink. It requires that you run a full node. The code looks at all the network transactions to find the locks on the InstantX payment. We used version .55 so maybe there is something changed from that, but we measured about 1GB/day which is basically all the in and out network traffic.I don't get it, can you elaborate pls - what's the connection between "ix detector" and "1gb/day"?
That is why they are adopting a governance model similar to Dash's.i don't like projects with an anonymous lead programmer like vcash's john conner. How far can you get with such a team?
Who pays that team?
I believe bitshares has a form of governance model. Its different than Dash's and pre-dates Dash. It was likely the first DAO. Other than that, VCash is implementing one within a few months. You can see the 12 month roadmap here: https://v.cash/forum/threads/12-month-timeline.349/Do you know any other coin (except dash) that has governance?
Comparing the "Delegated Proof of Stake" of Bitshare with the "Decentralized Governance Blockchain Budget" of Dash, is like comparing the parliamentary system with the direct democracy.I believe bitshares has a form of governance model. Its different than Dash's and pre-dates Dash. It was likely the first DAO.
I dont believe they will keep their roadmap.Other than that, VCash is implementing one within a few months. You can see the 12 month roadmap here: https://v.cash/forum/threads/12-month-timeline.349/