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  1. paragon

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    Proposal - Dash Watch



    Click the Vimeo button at the bottom right of the video window to enlarge or watch full screen

    Summary: Finish creating an organization and website called Dash Watch (dashwatch.org) which tracks each proposal’s status and performance fulfilling its scope, schedule, budget, and communication goals. Dashwatch.org will have a wide array of filtering, tagging, and sorting options so that you can instantly view all proposals listed by date, payout amount, proposer, tag, status as well as each of the performance metrics mentioned above. This will enable masternodes to quickly spot the proposals that are under-performing. Eventually we will allow proposers themselves to enter in their project’s accomplishments, updates, timeline and milestones and have it feed into a global timeline/calendar for the entire proposal ecosystem.

    This project will require at least one full-time developer and at least one other full-time employee to assist in outreach, data collection, verification, entry, in addition to me as project manager. This a rather large undertaking, however, we want to do this thoroughly and professionally. We believe this is a much needed step for the ever-growing 2 million dollar per month proposal ecosystem. I will oversee the application design and development, the proposer outreach, as well as the data collection, verification, entry, and reporting. I will be accountable to continue to innovate the platform to meet masternodes’ needs. It will be Dash Watch’s responsibility to actively seek the most accurate, relevant, and up-to-date information on all ongoing proposals at least monthly.


    About me

    You may know me as paragon from Slack or Discord. I've been an active community member and big believer in Dash since late last year. In April, I paid for one of the developers I employ to build http://www.dash.dog which is a website and software that monitors Dash's price and network in real-time.

    I hope the community is willing to respect that I’d like to keep my identity private because of existing business endeavors, but I have personally met and spent time with various members of the core team. Ryan Taylor gave me the initial encouragement to follow through on my vision for this concept. Philipp Engelhorn, Jeff Smith, and Robert Wiecko have also all individually spoken to me about this project and encouraged me to carry it out. They felt it was particularly important that this be done by someone outside of Core which I agree with. As far as my background, I have started and run a successful online business managing over 25 employees for the last several years which I’m currently phasing out of. I’ve envisioned, funded, and overseen the development of an advanced internet tools software suite and corresponding website as well as a web platform for peer-to-peer asset trading. I have extensive experience hiring developers, conceiving and building software and web platforms, managing and getting along with various types of people, and seeing projects through to completion. I’m confident that I have the skills necessary to carry out this project professionally, however, please feel free to contact me personally if you’d like to see proof of my previous work.

    What are we proposing to do?

    Finish building a small team and website called Dash Watch to follow up with and track the status of all the various approved proposals. We will publish factual and objective information only in the performance metrics and proposal updates, and we will source our information. We will only cover approved proposals unlike previous ideas which sought to evaluate proposals before approval. We believe strongly that in order for the masternodes to form the best collective consensus, we should stay out of the business of giving our opinion and let the masternodes form independent opinions themselves.

    Proposals on our website will all be sortable and filterable by name, proposer, status, start date, last update, Dash amount, total USD amount paid at payout/s, the various performance metrics mentioned above, etc. Each proposal owner will have his own profile that shows his history across all proposals. We will also create the above-mentioned tagging system so that one could quickly, for example, find all proposals of a specific type such as those related to Debit Cards, exchange integration, YouTube ads, ATM’s, POS systems, or meetups for example.

    Motivation & Background

    With 20+ proposals being approved by the DAO each month and that expected to grow exponentially, it is increasingly important for the Dash community to be more vigilant and informed about its investments. All Dash holders deserve to be able to track the progress of the treasury’s investments so that they can learn from the proposals which are successful and those that aren't, and properly recognize those who have done a stellar job and be made aware of those who haven't. We believe the inability to quickly assess the status of ongoing proposals or to track a proposer’s history has led to lower accountability, missed deadlines, inefficiencies, and losses that are preventable. If approved by the community, Dash Watch should serve as a powerful tool to diminish the probability that the network suffers these consequences in the future.


    Scope
    While our initial goal is to create the user-friendly web interface offering an overview of how all proposals are progressing and where the problems are. Longer-term, assuming significant adoption of the platform, we plan on allowing the proposers to have logins tied to their proposer ID in order to directly update the community. They’ll be able to update their specific proposal’s accomplishments, budget utilization, schedule adherence, along with the overall timeline and milestones directly and efficiently. If the community would like, however, we could still verify the accuracy of this information to the best of our ability.

    The entered timelines and milestones of each proposal will automatically feed into a master calendar and or timeline of the entire Dash proposal system. This will allow anyone to readily determine key upcoming dates and developments.

    Currently, many of the proposal databases have inaccurate payment dates along with missing proposals, and some have no data or incomplete data before version 12.1. This has made our job obtaining a complete and fully accurate dataset quite a bit more difficult as we must spend time not only locating the needed data across the various resources but then also verifying it. It will be part of this project to aggregate the most complete and accurate database to date of approved proposals including as many details as possible such as less commonly collected information like payout addresses.

    Initially, our proposal data will start covering proposals from Feb, 2017 which is when 12.1 was released. Data prior to that is not as uniform, reliable, or complete, but as soon as we complete higher priority tasks, we will begin inputting all available data going back to the beginning of the proposal system and we will continue to track each proposal’s status, scope, schedule, and budget along with their latest update monthly. Because all proposal data drops off the blockchain after that month’s budget cycle, going forward, we plan to (thanks to coingun’s help) retrieve all available proposal data directly from the blockchain to ensure we have the most complete and accurate database possible.

    Dash Watch will not just be a useful tool but we will strive to be the eyes and ears for the masternodes who can't be expected to monitor the progress of all proposals. We will make sure that those receiving funding are followed diligently and that they know they will be held publicly accountable to deliver on their promises. However, we primarily want to be a resource to relay the overwhelming number of dedicated hard-working Dash contractors whose proposals are adding great value currently or hold tremendous promise in the near future. By more clearly exposing this, we expect people will better appreciate Dash’s vastly underestimated potential. We will also help keep Dashforcenews in the loop of all pertinent discoveries for enhanced coverage of proposals.

    Deliverables
    1. Database containing all approved proposals with filtering and tagging ability going back to early 2017 to start (database)

    2. Web application to view proposal data and progress (front-end application)

    3. Fully built database and web application displaying proposal status along with objective metrics with sources cited of the last 8-10 months of proposals
    Schedule
    I have already personally invested $9,400 hiring two people to initiate development and data collection and am actively seeking community feedback on the pre-alpha version of the product which I will show in an attached video. We estimate this will take 3 months to have a polished finished product that we’ll be proud to present the community with, however, we will have a functional website with intermediate versions and plenty of valuable information long before that.

    Milestones
    • Deliverable 1 Backend significantly advanced, finalized database architecture, blockchain proposal data parsing and importing: (2017.12.15)
    • Deliverable 2 Front-end app significantly advanced: (2018.01.15)
    • Deliverable 3 Full and vetted dataset on each proposal post 12.1: (2018.02.01)
    • Deliverable 4 - Finished backend with login capability for all proposers and visual timeline/calendar for each proposal and the entire proposal system. Fully polished and optimized UI with all features enabled presenting the entire verified proposal dataset: (2018.02.30)
    Budget
    Itemized Costs
    Total Costs Requested


    Web Site / Application Development
    ~160-200hrs/month @ 50$/hr = $9,000/mo

    Full-time senior developer highly experienced in postgresql, graphql, react.js, node.js etc

    Custom-built database architecture and backend to suit our needs which will be a foundation from which we can create many proprietary features to suit masternodes

    Custom-built Postgres permission structure that will allow different users to view and or modify the appropriate fields to them

    Blockchain communication and JSON parsing of proposal data

    Linking of proposer ID to login credentials on Dash Watch to allow proposer to modify his proposal’s updates/progress, timeline/calendar and milestones

    Global timeline and calendar feature for the entire proposal ecosystem

    Publicly accessible APIs so others can tap into our database

    Flexible, sorting, filtering, and tagging options for all proposals

    Proposer Outreach & Communication

    ~80hrs/ month @~50/hr = $4000

    Track down and establish a channel of regular communication with all active proposal owners by whatever means possible

    Solicitation of status and progress information from each proposal owner once a month via whatever medium is convenient to them (eg discord, forum, email, skype, sms, telegram, phone call, etc)

    Database Data Verification and Proposer update information Verification and Summarisation

    ~80hrs/month @~50/hr = $4000

    Verifying we aggregate the most accurate database information from all database resources.

    Accurately classifying all proposals under our five metrics and tagging each appropriately enable advanced filtering capability

    Verifying all the new monthly information provided by the proposal owners about their proposals is accurate, summarising it into 1-2 sentences and inputting it into our database. If you would like to see more in depth reports on each proposal please let us know.

    Project management

    $4500

    Reimbursement for proposal work

    Recruiting/hiring

    Managing the project’s staff and helping do the work

    Ensuring all work is carried out thoroughly, completely, accurately, and respectfully of proposers and masternodes

    Frequent community outreach for feedback and discussion on how to improve our offering

    Unforeseen Expenses

    $1500

    This accounts for minor unpredictable setbacks such as the need to add or replace staff, to redesign or rebuild application features, to redo or reverify data-related tasks, and or due to price fluctuation/slippage


    TOTAL

    $23,000 or ~54 Dash/mo for 3 months


    Terms
    We are requesting a monthly payment of ~54 DASH for the first three months to accomplish this scope of work. Any excess funding will be rolled over and used to lessen the amount requested on future proposals, however, if there is a significant price drop we will request funding for the shortfall. For this endeavor to be a success, it will require both long-term endorsement from the DAO to gain proposer cooperation with us and ongoing funding to pay those who are needed to continue working on this. The development costs should diminish precipitously after the first three months assuming no further features are desired, but the proposal outreach and documentation costs will likely increase as our treasury expenditure and number of proposals per month tracked increases. We will be continuously upgrading and improving our application’s featureset as well as the completeness, accuracy, uniformity, and presentation of the information we collect. We will request feedback from the community regarding additional features, more and/or greater-depth coverage, etc. The amount of work required on an ongoing basis may change over time and that will dictate the monthly cost which we will refrain from trying to predict now and will simply request at the appropriate time.

    Closing
    We believe Dash Watch’s existence informing the masternodes and public about the status of all proposals will encourage proposers to keep their promises and hold themselves to higher standards than they may have without any oversight.

    We hope that you see the value in this work and that you will allow us to provide this service. Thank you for your time reading this through, please leave any and all suggestions, modifications, and feedback. Thank you!
     
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  2. SimontheRavager

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    This is a way to solve a real DASH issue. Very well done ^^
     
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    I spent over an hour talking to @paragon and he walked me through the pre-alpha site through sharing his screen.

    I can say that both as a proposal owner and someone interested in the health of the Dash ecosystem this is an amazing tool and deserves your attention and support.

    In my opinion this is exactly the tool that is necessary for any professional evaluation of treasury proposals to be possible.
     
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  4. Coqui33

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    Outstanding! Yes indeed.
     
  5. TroyDASH

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    I know a lot of work has gone into this pre-proposal to get it to this point, and @paragon has solicited feedback from many community members. Imo, this is a great start to fill an obvious gap. If the core team isn't going to do it (it's not their job anyway), and we're not going to pay some external auditing company a bazillion dollars to do it, then it's going to need to look something like this. Happy to support this.
     
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  6. Mark Mason

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    I really hope this proposal gets backing from MNOs as the community desperately needs a solution like this with the growing number of proposals each month. We need more accountability and @paragon has done an excellent job putting his own time and money showing proof of work and the concept looks great. You have my full support. If I had a masternode I'd give you a YES vote! ;)
     
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  7. solarguy

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    The font is a little small on the vimeo, but it looks like a crap ton of useful information to follow up on proposals.

    And certainly, we need more accountability in the proposal system.

    That appears to be an actual functional product already, not just a mock up. If that's true, when could we start to use it? Sure, make it more elegant and flexible and color coded and powerful, etc etc. But when can I get my hot little hands on it???
     
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    I've spoken at length with Paragon regarding this proposal, and I'm absolutely convinced he will give this the professional treatment it deserves. Myself and the Dash Force News team have taken a crack at chasing down proposal owners in the past, and the sheer amount of missing data is staggering. This project will make everyone's life a whole lot easier.
     
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    This will be great just for the database side of having the elements all together. As a fellow "researcher" I know how weird most of the older data looks. I have also discussed this with Paragon and am very impressed with the commitment he has to make this project successful.
     
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    I have also vetted this proposal prior to submission with @paragon and has my full support. Voting yes.
     
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    yes yes yes we need this. Also, the price really is good for something that in my opinion is sorely needed.
     
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  12. solarguy

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    This is a little bit ambiguous. Are you saying this is a good price, or a bad price (too high) or a bad price (too low)?
     
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    oops, my mistake I should have checked again what I wrote. I meant its cheap in a good sense. Meaning if they did need more money for any reason i would still vote for it.
    fixed my original post.
     
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    Great proposal and accompanying video! Paragon reached out to me as well and in addition to listening to my advice he clearly showed that he is dedicated to improving the proposal system, serving the MNOs, and helping Dash grow.

    Regarding the proposal itself, a website that collates proposal information, which is currently scattered across 3 or 4 websites, is sorely needed and I see no reason not to support this proposal. Especially since they will be focusing on being objective through sourcing information about each proposal’s schedule, budget, milestones, etc. — rather than just posting their opinions about which proposals they think are doing “good” or “bad”. This means that as a community we aren’t required to trust dashwatch’s opinion.

    In addition, I am really looking forward to the overall proposal view where a person could track all of the exciting things going on in the Dash ecosystem in a convenient matter.

    Finally, the price at 54 Dash per month is reasonable and the timeline means that the website will be rolled out reasonably quickly. All in all, this is an easy...VOTE YES.
     
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    To a need you have created a solution.
    It is something that the community needs, and claimed.

    There is one detail: For it to work in the long term they have to be constant.
    If approved, you would have invested part of your money and Dash funds in the development of the product.
    But the final product: what kind of license would it have? open source, etc.
    If for any reason, you decide to leave the project, other people could continue with it?
    Thank you
     
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    A very much needed proposal. The Dash Force News team looks forward to working with Paragon to provide Masternode owners the information they need to make better informed decisions within our ever growing proposal system.
    Based on this info, I have suggested making a wall of shame section on DFN to make it easier to hold bad proposal owners accountable. This will only be used after a thorough investigation has been conducted by DFN and said proposal owners given a fair amount of time to respond. Their responses will be fully noted and continuously followed up on.
     
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    Thanks a lot everyone. I really appreciate the words of encouragement from each of you Simon , Ed, Coqui, TroyDash, Mark, Solarguy, Joel, Joe, Stealth923, TheSingleton, JGCMiner, and Mastermined. I'll do my best to not let any of you down.

    @blockchaintech regarding the project being open-source, I definitely would like to have as much redundancy as possible not only with me, but by having multiple developers on this project so that if the current developer or I ever had to step away for an unforeseen reason, someone else would be able to quickly pick up the slack and fill in our shoes. I've actually already given Core Team Member Alex Werner access to the codebase via gitlab to hear his input on the current development. If the community doesn't mind other competitors to Dash potentially freeloading off our work for Dash, we have no problem making the entire project open-source.

    @solarguy I can give you access to the pre-alpha version as soon as we are funded if you'd like, but please know that so far we've only done our first pass as far verifying the accuracy of our data.
     
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    No rush, just eager to try out the real thing.
     
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    Paragon has spent a considerable amount of time interviewing me regarding my team and our proposal before submitting. I support this proposal both as a proposal owner that wants accountability tracked and also as a MN.
     
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    This is an excellent proposal and has my votes.

    My conversation with Paragon on this centered around it being an apolitical representation of projects, their status and achievements, Looking forward to it being voted up.
     
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    Excellent proposal. Has my vote. This has been a much needed service to the Masternode owners. Great work Paragon. You can count on my input. ;)
     
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    ty so much for the Video great proposal you got my Yes
     
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    Yes from me. It'll be a valuable resource for the network and I have 100% confidence in Paragon delivering on the scope set out. Like a number of others in the community, he reached out to get feedback on how best to go about this, the result is a well thought out and well written proposal. The groundwork he has put into this pre-proposal is a good demonstration of the level of commitment he'll put into delivering on this, it is a real credit to him, I wish all proposals were as well thought out and considered as this one..

    Walter
     
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    Easy yes from me Paragon you've shown yourself and your project to be well worth it I'd say
     
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    Absolutely, i hope you have the 5 DASH to make it real. If note i think we all will help you out to make DASH safer ^^ \o/ in DASH we trust!!!
     
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    Thank you Paragon. I'm sorry for being so late in participating here. I think your proposal is dead on perfect as can be. In a previous proposal, I didn't like the intention of biased reports, but this seems really well contained and I especially hope to see this part : "Eventually we will allow proposers themselves to enter in their project’s accomplishments, updates, timeline and milestones and have it feed into a global timeline/calendar for the entire proposal ecosystem." As soon as possible.

    I think the price is very reasonable, and I thank you for putting your own money into this already. I hope we can approve good salaries in the future if you show your system can be unbiased and pretty accurate (if both sides can have equal access and it can be handled professionally, this will be the gem of the network) There are some interesting coding aspects of what you propose that I can see being useful for others, and It's my hope that if someone wants to do something different but needs similar code, that you'll share it ?? Anyway, you'll have my vote :)

    Edit, just an idea. I don't think there should be any discussions on this thing because that would devolve into flame wars IMO. Facts are facts, and I think something like the proposal owners being able to make make brief comments, and click milestone check marks and the person in charge of facts can make co-comments saying "verified" "not verified" and "verified to be untrue" and short comments would keep the BS to a minimum??
     
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    It's funny actually because I had the same idea a few months ago but @paragon seems to be ahead of the game while also delivering something more polished and feature rich than what I could have done myself. Of course this is a yes from me as well.
     
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    Scott, Ewok, Bigrcanada, Schnuppdog, Walter, Methusaleh, Simon, Tante, Ichigo and everyone else above and on discord and slack who chatted with me and helped me develop the idea, I really appreciate the input and support, this would not be happening without you.

    We will be moving full-steam ahead as soon as we have a clear indication that the proposal will pass.

    Tante and others, please know that hearing the way you envision this platform being designed is really helpful as we're still very early on and have the ability to add or modify a lot of features without resulting in a significant loss of time and money.

    I encourage others to please share with us what their ideal end-product capabilities are as well. We won't get it perfect the first time, but it goes without saying that the more people who give us their feedback early on regarding what they would like and not like to see on the platform, the more likely we are to deliver them a satisfactory product.

    Thanks again for the support

    PS If you don't agree with part of this idea or its execution, please don't shy away from saying something. We're aiming to best accommodate everyone and it's better that I hear it
     
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    Thats a much needed proposal. I'm impressed by the vision you have to fullfill this task. Looking forward to vote yes.
     
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    No more free rides please, keep this closed source and exclusive to DASH Eco-system. I also exchanged some ideas with paragon and offered my help in the endeavor. Good luck
     
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