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Anonymous email provider Tutanota integrates bitcoin payments

tungfa

That part of the article is deceiving. Probably whoever wrote the article is a Monero supporter or paid by them.

This is what the text actually says:

There is also a possibility for the company to add Monero support, which is a secure, untraceable and private digital currency, similar to bitcoin. Although the decision has not been made yet, we expect the firm to take the right step and integrate Monero-based payments as well. The last part sounds very much like wishful thinking on behalf of whoever wrote this article. Clearly shows a bias coming from this author. The author of the article wants them to add it as payment option.

This is same as saying there is a possibility these guys would accept nonamecoin or whatever low profile coin. There's also a stronger possibility they'll add Dash over Monero since they were emailed about Dash already and it makes sense considering Dash has a larger user base.
 
InTheWoods said:
tungfa

That part of the article is deceiving. Probably whoever wrote the article is a Monero supporter or paid by them.

This is what the text actually says:

There is also a possibility for the company to add Monero support, which is a secure, untraceable and private digital currency, similar to bitcoin. Although the decision has not been made yet, we expect the firm to take the right step and integrate Monero-based payments as well. The last part sounds very much like wishful thinking on behalf of whoever wrote this article. Clearly shows a bias coming from this author. The author of the article wants them to add it as payment option.

This is same as saying there is a possibility these guys would accept nonamecoin or whatever low profile coin. There's also a stronger possibility they'll add Dash over Monero since they were emailed about Dash already and it makes sense considering Dash has a larger user base.
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i am on tutanota and got this email yesterday:

Hello privacy-friend,


we hope that you love your Tutanota mailbox and the high level of security you are getting with our build-in encryption. For 2016 we have planned to add exciting new features to Tutanota. Most importantly, we want to add an encrypted calendar to your mailbox. Read more about our development roadmap on our blog. We also plan to add many features that will improve your every-day use of Tutanota. Thanks for giving us so much feedback on what features you need most on our user forum. This is what we plan to realize in 2016:


  • add Bitcoin support for upgrading to Premium (possibly also add Monero support)
  • add multi-selection of emails for desktop
  • add storage
  • automatic synchronization between all devices
  • implement search in encrypted data
  • add 2-factor authentication
  • add an encrypted calendar
  • add contact import
  • add conversation view


Upgrade now to help us grow our team further!

We are only able to achieve all this because we are in the process of doubling our development team from three to six developers! If you know any privacy-oriented developer, please tell them about the opportunity to work with us on this exciting open source project! Please support our fight for privacy and help us develop even faster by upgrading to Premium in your account! If you prefer to support us anonymously, you can also donate. Keep recommending Tutanota to your friends and online to give everybody the chance to reclaim their right to privacy!


All the best
from an excited TutanotaTeam

:wink:
 
tungfa

Yes but they still haven't integrated Monero yet but playing with the idea.

If these guys ignored all the Dash emails we sent them why keep promoting and encourage people to use their email service? Let's promote Proton mail instead or something else.

The market has a weird tendency of punishing you for making silly decisions.
 
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InTheWoods said:
tungfa

Aha so that's why Monero's being considered because they've posted the idea there and mobilized their trolls to vote it up https://tutanota.uservoice.com/foru...tions/9968298-accept-monero-xmr-for-donations

Emailing them was useless. We should have done the same thing. We haven't posted any idea in there have we? Of course they won't accept Dash since they have this system in place where people vote on the ideas.
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we should definitely try to post as "concerned citizens "
dash is market cap 5 , why consider the others with such a bad reputation and market cap 20 or whatever they are :wink:

we do not wanna get into a public troll fight
 
Ok so here's the thing guys. Their voting system can be easily abused. One can vote using multiple emails and browsers from the same IP and or use a VPN for even more votes. I guess this is how Monero reached that high vote count.
 
InTheWoods said:
Ok so here's the thing guys. Their voting system can be easily abused. One can vote using multiple emails and browsers from the same IP and or use a VPN for even more votes. I guess this is how Monero reached that high vote count.
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So? What are you waiting for? Get on it! :tongue:
 
yidakee has been in contact with Tutanota for a while. They redirected him to that voting system, but there was already a big presence of Monero over there. With that in mind, we have not pushed there because the most likely scenario would have been a trolling war over there, making us both look really bad. I think that in this case the best approach is to keep pushing Dash, get another privacy conscious email provider to accept Dash and then go back to them directly, not via their voting mechanism.
 
fernando said:
yidakee has been in contact with Tutanota for a while. They redirected him to that voting system, but there was already a big presence of Monero over there. With that in mind, we have not pushed there because the most likely scenario would have been a trolling war over there, making us both look really bad. I think that in this case the best approach is to keep pushing Dash, get another privacy conscious email provider to accept Dash and then go back to them directly, not via their voting mechanism.
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That's true, but no need to be scared off, either. We have just as much of a right to apply there, so I've planted the seed. Makes them know that we as a community are interested as well.
https://tutanota.uservoice.com/foru...egrate-dash-dash-functionality-in-your-platfo
 
on a sidenote:
Interesting comment on one of our other pages:
https://forum.bitcoin.com/dash/are-you-using-tutanota-email-t5548.html

Email services like Tutanota may be convenient but you need to be aware of the security tradeoffs. Tutanota only uses 2048 bit encryption while experts like Snowden recommend 4096. You can easily use 4096 bit PGP yourself with a utility like gpg4usb.

As important as the strength of your encryption is metadata in email headers. Three letter agencies love collecting metadata which can often help identity the sender of an email. If you want to eliminate metadata you need to look into a provider like sigaint which strips metadata from your email headers and sends your email over the Tor network.

To reiterate that services using 2048 RSA encryption are no longer secure see the FAQ recently published by the NSA.

According to the NSA the following are no longer secure:


  • ECDH and ECDSA with NIST P-256

  • SHA-256

  • AES-128

  • RSA with 2048-bit keys

  • Diffie-Hellman with 2048-bit keys

All the popular auto PGP email providers like Tutanota and ProtonMail still use 2048 bit RSA and should be avoided. Use PGP yourself with a key strength of 4096 (stronger keys are possible to create but commercial PGP clients have trouble handling.)

I do not know of any free email services using automatic PGP encryption at 4096 strength yet. I also have some concerns storing private keys in the browser. Really, gpg4usb is pretty simple to use, just check their online manual. Because gpg4usb is portable you can take it with you on a flash drive or store it in a Veracrypt container to protect your private key from snoopers.

While it is a good idea to use an email provider that does not log your IP and minimizes metadata you would be better off just using local PGP with Gmail than one of those email providers who encrypt and decrypt in your browser.

For a good comparison list of free and paid email providers check out privacy conscious email services one should work for you. One thing everyone agrees on is to stay away from Safe-Mail and Hushmail.
 
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