Dash's Path Back to the Top

[vampyren]

That there's a lot of dollars out there? If only they could print some more...

That plus we are not part of the party + no cake for us!

You say that but then you go on to say you want pair trading!

Just so we are talking about the same thing, Bridge is not the same as pair trading. Moving from one chain to another through say https://app.debridge.finance/ is not what i'm asking.
Swapping using liquidity is something else.

Not to say we shouldn't have our own stable coin, but balance this out. Like I said earlier, imo a dash stable coin should meet all of the following criteria:

The rules you set is not doable! We are not the ones issuing the stablecoin here, institutions are. We simply offer a "better" chain that is more robust and offers also privacy using native coin (once we have a better solution that is).

I think if we're going to compromises on these rules, then we might as well just use someone else's stable coin.

Going back to the first point. If we play with other chains stable coin then why Dash? and we won't benefit from user, traffic, fee and all that good stuff that comes with it. That is the whole point.
Same with having smart contract. That opens the door for allot of new usecases and features.

By the way i think what you are advocating for is a stablecoin similar to Terra USD or what its called "Algorithmic Stablecoin"

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That's a totally different ballgame and personally i don't think its the right path as it has its own risk and i'm not sure how many people will trust it after all the crap it caused last time. The volumes are with USDT and USDC mainly.

The goal in my mind atleast is to bring in more users, more traffic and make our blockchain the go to blockchain. And for this i think having stablecoin, NFT, smart contract, being on popular DEX:es is crucial.
Without that i don't know really how we would compete or stay relevant. Maybe one other way is to simply be the best privacy chain but that would defeat the purpose of EVO to some extent.

Either way i want us to succeed and get more adoption. What and how we do it is the topic i like you and others to discuss so we can agree on the best approach. So bring it on with all good ideas

 

[Dans]

We currently have less than 10,000 daily transactions on the network, to give you an idea, this number is similar to what the network had in 2017/2018

There is talk about everything that has been done in Dash, and what has been improved since 2018, however the numbers say that it is used less than ever, while its price is at 2017 levels, and if it We bought with BTC even much further back in time.

what do they not see?

Many come here and talk about a job well done, about everything that has been achieved, about progress and achievements, about contacts with each other, about regulations, that we are on the right path...

Do they think we're idiots or something?

Then someone comes and says that we are worried about the price, but that doesn't matter, let's not look at the price in a year when everything will improve...

What kind of retarded discussion forum is this?

Either you have an aggressive stance with budget spending as if it were a private company, or you don't spend a single cent more.

I have grown tired of telling you that if a penny more of the budget had not been spent in 2017, Dash would not be worse off now. I would even assure that we would be much better.

Continue with your smoke projects, continue financing clowns who fill your ears with great things that will be done to shine...

You have to gain users and they will provide traction.

No one new to crypto looks at Dash, everyone looks for SOL, DOGE, XMR, BTC, ETH... do you know why?

Of course they know it! But they don't want to accept it.

I will continue to remind you that they want to scam you, but I cannot vote for you.

 

[GrandMasterDash]

@vampyren It's a sad state of affairs when people such as yourself come here and basically want dash to be yet another DeFi platform.

Not only that, but hoping for a US dollar stable coin that is friendly to banking, LE and international sanctions. And there was me hoping dash could be global-fuck-you-digital-cash!

 

[vampyren]

@Dans
I agree with allot of your points! I was very vocal about our spending and the deliveries or rather lack of deliveries, the delays, the way of working for DCG and so on. So i don't paint a perfect picture of things happening. I know for sure things can and should be better.
For this i know the team together with Ryan had some week where they did workshops and whatnot. Not sure how much it helped but atleast EVO is now finally getting done.
I still miss a proper roadmap and understanding of what we will do moving forward. This is the point of our discussions. We like to know what we have to do before spending time and money on it.

@vampyren It's a sad state of affairs when people such as yourself come here and basically want dash to be yet another DeFi platform.

Not only that, but hoping for a US dollar stable coin that is friendly to banking, LE and international sanctions. And there was me hoping dash could be global-fuck-you-digital-cash!

I see your point! But ask yourself how else can we get traction and collaborate with other platforms without having smart contract?
To me it would be impossible. Hell even Firo made it possible to get added to BNB chain for trading. Not that it helped them allot. So even with that i'm not sure how much it will help us to be honest. I think sadly we are a bit late to the party.
Maybe with EVO and it's features we can appeal to the new audience?

I agree that we can't be yet another DeFi platform. I think its to late to jump into that game specially with sooooo many chains today with much deeper pockets and eco system. However if we can offer something appealing and collaborate with them maybe we can atleast have a fighting chance.

Or we just focus on privacy. That's an option too.

I'm open to hear more options. What other alternatives do you see for Dash to work on say for next year?
I really like to know what people think brings value and more users to the eco system!

 

[cryptosi]

Firstly can I thank @GrandMasterDash and @vampyren for a thorough and mature conversation.

For the most part I'm with @GrandMasterDash and I really wish that @thedesertlynx would reply directly to him, I'd expect him to be a little thicker skinned and continue to engage despite the name-calling.

I do however agree that moving towards licencing is sensible, and yes it is appeasing, and to be honest its not much better than denying privacy and abandoning it. But....... Being utter extremists is also not a great route to rely on solely.

I think the point which has been overlooked is the dash wallet..... A place for Dash to do as Dash likes..... why doesnt it have Bitcoin? why doesnt it have Maya? why doesnt it have a way to swap easily into and store stables? Its not a massively technical task to add ALL of those things and we all know it will be a LOT cheaper than chasing the americans for an OK to build stables.

Please continue to discuss here, because in my humble opinion these discussions despite being annoying to you guys, they are the MOST advanced and nuanced discussions being had in DAOs, and as mentioned before, we are all routing for the same freedoms, just disagreeing on how. for now I agree with GrandMasterDash, that compliance is bad, but i concede that its neccesary to a degree, lets find balance and continue to hold CORE accountable.

BitPay asked for my KYC today, thats where compliance leads, always towards control and the removal of our liberty. But Theres nothing wrong with being compliant providing we also remain free enough to be able to not comply.

Keep it up guys, I'm looking forward to seeing how this discussion pans out.

Love

 

[cryptosi]

Also Dash needs DeFi - Platform MUST provide this, theres a reason why ALL other L1s build DeFi first.

cant have money without money markets.

 

[Dans]

It's interesting to see people again advocating for regulation and pleasing regulators. How they happily accept KYC and say it is not bad.

Well, well... it is very necessary and without it, we will not get anywhere.

Then I turn around happy for having read such interesting contributions that will mark "Dash's path to the heights", and I see a coin called Monero with a volume 3 times that of Dash, with a capitalization 10 times that of Dash, and more than double the number of transactions


and I go Running to see what regulations it follows or what KYC it follows or how well it gets along with the regulators.

You are not going to convince me no matter how much nonsense you say, the evidence is right under your nose, and if you don't want to see it, then convince yourselves otherwise, and continue believing that with changes against the interest of the dash user we will go very far.

All the best.

 

[AgnewPickens]

It's interesting to see people again advocating for regulation and pleasing regulators. How they happily accept KYC and say it is not bad.

Well, well... it is very necessary and without it, we will not get anywhere.

Then I turn around happy for having read such interesting contributions that will mark "Dash's path to the heights", and I see a coin called Monero with a volume 3 times that of Dash, with a capitalization 10 times that of Dash, and more than double the number of transactions


and I go Running to see what regulations it follows or what KYC it follows or how well it gets along with the regulators.

You are not going to convince me no matter how much nonsense you say, the evidence is right under your nose, and if you don't want to see it, then convince yourselves otherwise, and continue believing that with changes against the interest of the dash user we will go very far.

All the best.

Crypto never developed the primary markets it needs to compete with fiat as a unit of account, not even BTC. For crypto users, Dash users, to be able to get the goods and services they want, they have to make some concessions where crypto meets fiat. No way around it.

 

[Dans]

Crypto never developed the primary markets it needs to compete with fiat as a unit of account, not even BTC. For crypto users, Dash users, to be able to get the goods and services they want, they have to make some concessions where crypto meets fiat. No way around it.

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of course, of course. That is why we have supposedly delegated DIF financing to the Cayman Islands, to make concessions.

All the best

 

[Dashmarketmaker]

All what we really need is tap game, i suggest the name for the game: ´DashMan”, people will tap, and after will receive airdrop, the amount of airdrop will be depend on how much people tap and how much friends invited, the second is more important.