In theory, I agree and would rather that sporks be handled in a decentralized way, but the implementation of that, securely, and to do it in such a way as to still retain the full benefit of having the spork in the first place, is *not* trivial. Right now this is the best we have, and the fact that no one other than you (and maybe demo) are voicing an opinion that this issue needs to be addressed as an emergency, indicates to me that the overwhelming majority of MNs are okay with this. We are well aware that right now the network does have a benevolent dictator aspect to it with respect to the sporks, and that this is arguably the most centralized part of Dash.
You might get fewer troll marks if you stop referring to Evan as The New Geek Banker, or the core team as "the elite", or saying things like that MNOs should be ashamed of themselves. These things add zero value to the substance of your arguments, and your continued efforts to attack other people's integrity makes it seem like you have an agenda to cause disruption.
I fail to see the point of using crypto, except for making a fast buck..
Was calling it what it is; If we're going to replace bankers with New Geek Bankers then I fail to see the point of using crypto, except for making a fast buck. Whether it's sporks in dash or rollbacks in Ethereum, the highest priorities should be to maintain integrity.
With this method, an amount of money will be allocated and be ready to be given to the developer that will finish the job. If nobody is interested to code it, then more money can be allocated, until the motivation is strong enough for a competent developer to start coding it.
If there is a NO at the first proposal, this means that the masternodes dont like to decide about the updates, and that they blindly believe and trust to whatever the core team authority does.
I will invent the cure for cancer if you vote to give me 5000 dash in next month's budget. If you vote against then clearly you are blindly trusting what they are telling you.
The allocated Dash will not be given to you at the end of the month. They will remain locked into a wallet address, ready to be given to you, or to any other researcher manages to find the cure. The person(s) responsible to unlock the funds and give them to the one who discovered the cure of cancer, may also be voted by the masternodes.
So here it is a variation of the procedure:
Several proposals should be added:
Prop 1) Do you want the masternode software updates to be governed by the blockchain? (yes/no) (in case of a yes result, the 5 dash proposal fee is reimbursed)
Prop 2) In case of a yes in the proposal 1, do you agree to pay 150 dash to the one who will code it and let @demo be responsible to unlock the funds from the given payment address and give them to the winner? (in case of a yes result, the 5 dash proposal fee is reimbursed)
Prop 3) In case of a yes in the proposal 2, do you agree to pay another 200 dash to the one who will code it and let @TroyDASH be responsible to unlock the funds from the given payment address and give them to the winner? (in case of a yes result, the 5 dash proposal fee is reimbursed)
Prop 4) In case of a yes in the proposal 3, do you agree to pay another 200 dash to the one who will code it, and let @GrandMasterDash be responsible to unlock the funds from the given payment address and give them to the winner? (in case of a yes result, the 5 dash proposal fee is reimbursed)
In the future multisig wallet payment addresses may be supported also, so more than one persons may be responsible to give to the winner the bounty(ies).
Sounds good. What you're describing doesn't even sound all too far apart from some of the things I have heard floating around with regard to the new functionality that might be possible with Sentinel, governance objects and project managers. Just, not with the vote the numbers method
This procedure, although cumbersome, it is isomorphic to the alternative budget system and to voting with numbers.
Sentinel can also be re-geared and deployed to operate digital companies that have a built-in workforce, infrastructure to deploy again, and as an engine for storage and retrieval of information. This is the concept we’re working on, which will allow companies to run on the Dash Network and compete with centralized companies that refuse to work with Dash. It’s a simple divide and conquest model.
If anyone has any more information on this, I am all ears!
All information its in the opensource code. So instead of ears, you should have eyes and mind.
This is very true, of course. My mind and eyes are sharp. Time, however, is precious. Deciphering the code would be extremely time consuming. If anyone who is familiar with this would be willing to share some info, or point me in the right direction, I would be most appreciative.
If you think that controlling sporks is equivalent to being a banker, and that being a banker is bad, and that being a banker is so bad that you don't want to have anything to do with it, then maybe Dash isn't the best fit for you. Or, stay and help us improve it to make it more autonomous. But if you're just going to condemn the system and keep saying we're doing it so wrong that there isn't even a point to using it, then I'm not sure what you are doing here. If you have an idea for how to make it better, then feel free to put it out there and ask for feedback.
You've misinterpreted both what I've said and my intentions.
There already exists a mechanism for MNOs to vote on critical issues, but during all this development it has almost never been used for the actual governance of the project. At various times, key strategic decisions and functional decisions have been conveniently bypassed. MNOs have been spoon fed one proposal at a time without a single strategic decision being put to them. At a strategic level, who voted for fiat gateways and transaction analysis? At a functional level, who voted to stop MN payments? - Evil Evan and the Miners (rock group?) did that one, but certainly not a single MNO. It might well be that MNOs agree with Evan 100%, but it was never verified.
Presently, MNOs can't stop Evil Evan and the Miners from halting payments to the entire masternode network.. and it seems he's going to ask (or not) at his own discretion. I suggest that such trust is foolish and should be given more consideration by MNOs. Even without bad intent, what's the backup plan in the event of a fatal accident, an act of God, or malicious actors targeting this small group of people wielding such powers? How cool will Evolution be if hackers target this blatantly obvious weakness?
..could benefit from a more thorough analysis of why we have the sporks and the plans we need to put in place for the future.
@paragon paid 44 dash for someone to explain him some simple masternodes administrative tasks.
How much do you pay for an independent reviewer to explain you the real essence of the sentinel code?
I would, however, appreciate being pointed to any sources of useful and easily digestible information as may exist. If none exists at this time, then eventually it will, and perhaps that's when my curiosity will be satisfied.
When in this strange city, some people get paid for just smiling and for just being beautifull, then you should expect that those who are giving you directions will want to get paid too. If you think it is negative to pay people that are helping you, then you are out of the spirit of the Dash Timocracy.When I ask for directions in a strange city, I would be taken aback if the person I asked put his hand out for a donation. In a similar fashion, I am a bit taken aback by your attitude regarding my simple request for more information. If you have no information to share, or simply don't want to share, that's fine. There is certainly no need for put downs or any sort of negativity, however.
I created the website PlanetCrypton.com some time ago, as a means for explaining to other how to perform certain DASH and crypto tasks (with a focus on setting up a masternode). I did this for free. Some people gave small tips, but this was definitely not required to use the information which I freely provided..