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Hey Agnew it's cool I don't think we need to lock it, thanks.

Hi everyone Time is up.. Results: Yes votes: 4 No votes: 5 Abstains: 2 Quorum required was 6/11, so without recusals and only 4/11 yes votes, the vote didn't pass. thanks Andy

no it's fine, i'm sure many of use here are MNO actually. Just making the point that you know partial MNO opinions don't really count it's only when we can take consensus we can based things on it. Anyway no worries.

I've not actually read that... but from experience with people new to the Incubator model and the questions that typically come up... Incubator is a purely mercantile setup whereby every action is incentivized to produce output. There's no permanent positions / employment / contracts, just all...

sorry @xkcd, edited.

Sorry pretty much no idea what most of that is talking about...and some non-consensus, trusted MN group wouldn't be something I would ever put my reputation behind engaging privately with. In terms of why does my voice count... i'm not giving my voice, i'm trying to moderate a vote between...

As I said before, obviously anyone can post here. Where that's going to become an issue is if the volume of posts is people not in Incubator because then how can Admins have a discussion here together - the whole point is here we are trying to keep Incubator together / give Admins a chance to...

Sorry can you verify your claim that there are MNOs here? And lets say you can and they were, what does that actually mean? How would we know that if there were MNOs here, they represent consensus of the MNO network? The Rules of Incubator are pretty clear - a new PO isn't appointed by...

I've already said this on the thread - but this is an internal vote for Admins of Incubator. Anything relating to Proposals should be a separate thing - it's an abuse of position for the PO to use Proposals as a Platform to try to sway Incubator governance... the Rules are clear about what...

It was already posted here on Friday: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-incubator-vote-on-appointment-of-new-proposal-owner.53267/post-231489

@rion thanks for the various posts / feedback - just to clarify a few things: I'm not a "Yes" voter, i'm trying to mediate this because (same as in the March call) there's a danger here of an Incubator split, or a good part of Incubator's key people leaving, and as i'm not involved in Incubator...

Hey Mayoree - thanks for your feedback as an Incubator dev. I think you joined after I left, but good to see people who understand the value of decentralization (in this case on Dash's business layer) and have obviously read our Rules and understand why it was a key part of Incubator's...

Hi - can we try to keep this unbiased if possible - thanks.

Hey @Pasta ..so i've removed the recusal option, do you want to keep the vote you gave now or change it?

Hey @rion ..so these admins are apparently unhappy with the centralisation of the PO role and that the decentralisation plan (which I remember you agreeing to in the March call we had with them) hasn’t been enacted for some reason, what’s your response to that? Are you planning to enact that...

Edit: So i've removed recusal and replaced it with abstain... @QuantumExplorer @Ivan Shumkov so your votes are now "abstain", but as I mentioned, be aware in terms of Incubator governance it's going to be tallied the same as a "No" vote.

Hey Qwizzie - just to clarify, recusal means to eliminate oneself from a process...recusal from voting doesn't mean you vote something it means you eliminate yourself from eligibility to vote. Secondly, you can comment here obviously, but if you're not at least an Incubator contributor or...

Ok... if your in the bracket of Admins in question and you don't agree to the recusal then lets just take the literal interpretation. @Pasta @QuantumExplorer @Ivan Shumkov so you guys are going to be tallied now. If you don't vote, that's effectively a "No" vote going forward, so if you're...

@rion @qwizzie - the Rules are saying more than half of Admins need to vote yes here obvs... but 2 of those admins are saying they have COI so shouldn't be part of that process - and that is the de facto state already in previous votes internally. If now we don't allow them to recuse (meaning...

Right now there's nothing here of relevance to the current proposal cycle, this is an internal Incubator governance vote that's as yet undecided... Rion will be Incubator PO for this cycle regardless of the outcome: Without a Rule change reflecting the move to a shared proposal, the Admins...